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    Groups blast lawmaker King for Holocaust remark

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    See link below for speech

    http://www.alipac.us/modules.php?name=F ... ic&t=27553

    Groups blast lawmaker for Holocaust remark

    Two Jewish groups urged a U.S. congressman to repudiate his statement comparing illegal immigration to a Holocaust.
    Rep. Steve King (R-Iowa) has been outspoken in opposing any plan that would allow some undocumented immigrants to legalize their status.

    Speaking at a May 27 rally, King asserted that illegal immigrants are responsible for the deaths of 25 Americans a day through drug trafficking, drunk driving and sex crimes.

    This was a “slow-motion Holocaust,” he said.

    The National Jewish Democratic Council and the Anti-Defamation League, which had already called on King to back away from his accusations about illegal immigrants, urged him to repudiate the Holocaust remark.

    “Your reference to a ‘slow-motion Holocaust’ demonstrates a profound lack of understanding about the nature and the magnitude of the crimes against humanity undertaken by Hitler and his regime,” the ADL’s national director, Abraham Foxman, wrote King in a letter Tuesday.
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    I want to weigh in on this real quick. First of all, everyone should watch my speech at the May 27 summit and Congressman King's speech to make up your own minds.

    Video of speeches
    http://www.alipac.us/modules.php?name=F ... ic&t=30034

    I also want to say that the National Jewish Democratic Council and the Anti-Defamation League are acting like complete fools on this issue.

    First of all, last time I checked, they do not have a copyright on the word HOLOCAUST.

    Secondly, the fact they quickly dismiss the thousands of Americans killed or suffering over this invasion is beyond insult.

    Third (ADL & NJDC), they can go stick their comments where the sun does not shine. They are building walls and beating Palestinians on a daily basis (in Israel to handle their security concerns while American internal immigration security enforcement is miniscule). These groups, that do not represent the Jewish faith, need to get out of this discussion.

    Everyone should come to Congressman King's support during this nasty attack.

    These groups DO NOT speak for all people of the Jewish faith. Several great immigration enforcement groups that stand with ALIPAC are administered by people that are Jewish. Many of our contributors on this board are Jewish.

    Congressman King said this was a Holocaust. Not THE HOLOCAUST which these groups want to make sure they remind everyone of every day as if THE HOLOCAUST has any relation to this issue.

    Will these radical and inflammatory groups succeed this is like a "Holocaust" when 6 million Americans are dead?

    I say screw the National Jewish Democratic Council and the Anti-Defamation League. Those boneheads are taking up for the Aztlan.net side of this issue. They want to make inroad with the illegal alien community because there is so much anti-semitism in the ranks of the illegals.

    Isn't that something? Groups designed to fight anti-semitism are cuddling up with anti-semitic groups (illegals and Aztlan) and bashing a man who's solutions are far milder than the Israeli response to the Palestinian problem.

    I think the Jewish Democratic Council and the Anti-Defamation League just stuck their foot in it on this one. Just my humble opinion.

    Everyone, please fan out across the net spreading this story with links to my speech and Congressman King's.

    Let the people see and hear the truth.

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    WHAT A BUNCH OF STUFF !!!!

    Holocaust and iclusion of invaders and a national disaster would be more my wording. I have decided this year to change my political party. And you are right about the misrepresentation of the context.
    Is King running for Vice president ?? i'll vote for him !!!!
    Are you running for president ....... I'll vote for you lol
    I would run but i couldnt handle all the beuracratic stuff myself.

    To see and turn the blind eye is treason, to know and do nothing is .... treason. To know and see and advocate is simply foolish hogwash !!!!

    build the wall make it tall so our borders will be safe for all
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    First of all, last time I checked, they do not have a copyright on the word HOLOCAUST.
    Nope no TM on that one.

    This is ridiculous! Absolutely ridiculous postering. I will definately write Congressman King a letter of support. (he gets them monthly anyway since we have rogque Senators he is the only voice for Iowa)

    W. Your humble opinion is right on!

    Isn't that something? Groups designed to fight anti-semitism are cuddling up with anti-semitic groups (illegals and Aztlan) and bashing a man who's solutions are far milder than the Israeli response to the Palestinian problem.
    I read somewhere that the following saying is attributed to mid eastern culture but don't quote me on that. Anyway it is appropriate for your statement "The enemy of my enemy is my friend." Maybe that logic (?) explains the cuddle action. However, I would hardly have thought they perceive the Unites States as an enemy.
    "Liberty CANNOT be preserved without general knowledge among people" John Adams (August 1765)

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    Everyone should come to Congressman King's support during this nasty attack.
    Handled this as you suggested.

    Good Morning Congressman King,

    I have just read that you have received criticism for the use of the phrase "slow holocaust" as a description of what is occurring in our nation as a result of the unchecked invasion of our southern border by people entering the country illegally.

    I wanted to say this to you. The last time I looked the term "holocaust" was not trade marked with property rights to the Semitic anti-defamation league.

    HANG in there! This nation needs you!


    With sincere appreciation for your efforts on behalf of the citizens of this country!

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    Agree

    I am of Jewish Heritage and am not offended by that statement. What King said is the truth. It's sad that so many are afraid of the truth and the truth is that we Americans are in danger of losing our heritage, our land, our families, our economy, our homes, our very way of life. All due to the ILLEGAL immigrants. If that is not a holocaust, I don't know what is.
    Don't lose hope and keep up the good fight!

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    Message sent to the following recipients: Rep. King

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    Message sent to the following recipients:
    Representative King
    Message text follows:

    Pat
    June 8, 2006

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    Dear Congressman King,

    I just listened to your speech at the May 27th summit from ALIPAC's site. Brilliant and truthful, Sir!

    http://www.unitetofight.org/KING_A.wmv
    http://www.unitetofight.org/KING_B.wmv
    http://www.unitetofight.org/KING_C.wmv

    William Gheen notified us today of the hits you're taking for your 'slow
    holocaust' statement. Well, excuse me, but when did the JDL have a
    copyright on words? With due respect to THE HOLOCAUST by the Nazis, what
    else is it, when:

    "WE HAVE GOT TO ELIMINATE THE GRINGOS"

    The words above were spoken by Jose Angel Gutierrez, professor, University
    of Texas, Arlington and founder of the La Raza Unida political party. His
    full comment was: "We have an aging white America ... They are dying ...We
    have got to eliminate the gringo, and what I mean by that is if the worst
    comes to the worst, we have got to kill him."

    http://www.newswithviews.com/Devvy/kidd180.htm

    Maybe this link should be sent to an appropriate individual at JDL?!

    Why are they getting into bed with a Communist/Socialist/Marxist group?
    Such a knee-jerk reaction does not benefit them.
    Who will support Israel, if we are destroyed from within?

    Hold your ground, Sir. I know you meant no disrespect, and I'm going to
    try to figure out how to contact them and say so.

    I admire your courage (and that of your family),

    NO AMNESTY BY ANY NAME,
    SECURE OUR BORDERS,
    DEPORT ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS, either directly or by attrition
    FINE AND JAIL EMPLOYERS OF ILLEGALS
    NO BIRTHRIGHT CITIZENSHIP,
    ENGLISH AS THE NATIONAL LANGUAGE

    Why should only Americans and LEGAL immigrants have to obey the law?

    I apologize for the length of this email. I'm going to include my first
    post on ALIPAC as it shows my heart and experience with illegals.
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
    -----
    I was naive....then in March, was reading a Newsweek article and came
    across 'Social Security Totalization with Mexico'. Since I had never heard
    that term, I went to the Social Security web site, searched, read about
    it....became heartsick as I realized the ramifications....and since have
    become as active as I can. I am the sole caretaker of my beloved mother,
    who is very ill. I call, fax, email from a variety of sites, as well as my
    own. I hound the media. One local TV station, got mad at me, but does now
    use the term 'illegal' instead of undocumented or immigrant. For Miami,
    that's a big deal. When I was emailed that they ARE telling both sides of
    the story, I emailed back that if they were telling both sides of the
    story, that they would show a special investigation into effects of
    massive flow of illegals, crime stats, overuse of social services, school
    overcrowding, hospitals being overwhelmed (so that citizens and LEGAL
    immigrants can't get help in a timely fashion), MEChA, Aztlan,
    communist/socialist backing, etc. That just saying that there are those
    who don't want amnesty, isn't enough. Well, ok, I was mad! I apologize for
    the length of this post, but my email to the President of 3/27 will
    explain why. Oh, what I've learned since the below
    email!******************************************** ************* I'm so
    angry at all this sympathy for people who choose to disobey the laws of
    our country and do so every single day they stay here (and at the
    businesses who give our jobs away, cheaply) and at our gov't at all levels
    allowing this INVASION to go on. Immigrants are those who go through the
    system, fill out papers, get checked out, learn English and obey the law!

    I am the victim of illegals...Cuban, Nicaraguan, Colombian, Peruvian, &
    Mexican. These kids were in an international gang that robbed me off and
    on for 1 1/2 years (when I was at work at night as an ER RN, helping
    people!), before they threatened my life (spray-painted "We're going to
    kill you, you f...... Anglo bitch", all over my walls), broke in while I
    was there with a gun, then when I left for my safety, burned my house
    down, putting me into $25,000 in debt. Yes, the police gang unit was
    trying, but the professionalism of the gang, as well as the physical
    layout of the neighborhood, always gave the gang members time to escape.
    They only got the gang member, who removed his glove, while he sprayed the
    accelerant all over my furniture and my thousands of books. His
    thumbprint was left on the accelerant can.

    So guess what, I have absolutely no sympathy for illegals. My people were
    Lithuanian, and were executed by the Russians, when they invaded. My
    great-grandfather had a 'bad' feeling and took his family on a 'vacation'
    to another country, 1 week before the invasion. Even though he claimed
    political asylum, he was NOT allowed to come to the USA for 3 years, till
    he was checked out totally. Then it was, you're here, learn our language,
    obey our laws (no social help of any kind), and your future is up to you.
    He shared a room with 17 men, all taking turns sleeping on the floor with
    a blanket, saving every possible cent to bring over his wife and my
    grandmother, who was a child. Took 5 years to accomplish this. They were
    grateful! They learned English and obeyed the laws!!! What a concept!
    And nobody put Lithuanian on voting ballots or gov't or business forms!

    Kick all illegals out! Here in Miami, we have a situation with the 'Wet
    Foot, Dry Foot' Act, part of the Cuban Adjustment Act, an insane situation
    which encourages criminality. It encourages smuggling, so we have 3 sets
    of criminals. The person who pays the smuggler; the smuggler and the
    people who KNOW they're being smuggled. Then, when the Cuban steps on US
    land, they get to stay! Absurd! The message this sends is you can do
    what you want, whether it's legal or not. Any immigrant who breaks the
    law should be kicked back to his country of origin, along with the entire
    family, never to be allowed to return! This would make the entire family
    make sure that everyone was behaving and would make new immigrants the
    most law-abiding folk here. After all, we have enough home-grown
    criminals, we don't need to import any. Also, I'm tired of my tax money
    going to house jailed illegals!

    Note: I am NOT opposed to people coming to our shores. I have 2 daughters
    who speak 7 & 4 languages respectively. They only achieved this with my
    encouragement, values and hard work to pay for the lessons. I believe that
    the strength of our country has come from brave people who came from all
    over the world, who came here to be AMERICANS and learned a common
    language to communicate. I just think the invasion has to stop. We are
    at WAR...there are terrorists out there who want to destroy us, 9/11
    proved this. Our borders need to be closed. Visitors, with appropriate
    visas, need to be tracked and made to leave when the visa is up. Each
    country should be given a limited # of visas. Oh, and I find it very
    interesting that the terrorists spoke English, yet folk who say they love
    this country and want our freedoms, REFUSE to learn English.

    Another thing that needs to change...that just being born here conveys
    citizenship. If a person is born to a non-citizen who is NOT a green card
    holder... then the baby shouldn't be a citizen. In the ER, I took care
    of a child of Brazilian parents, who proudly presented her with her
    Medicaid card. Now these folk arrived in their big Mercedes, with 2
    (men's and ladies) Presidential Rolexes and expensive jewelry, handmade
    clothes and shoes and with even the child wearing more real jewelry
    (diamonds) than I'll ever be able to afford. They explained that this is
    the "greatest country". That it is well known in Brazil to come to Disney
    World in Orlando, Fl. for the last month of pregnancy and to just stay
    till the baby's born...then you have a US citizen and can get help. These
    people are millionaires. OUTRAGEOUS! My tax money going to people like
    this! My oldest daughter is disabled. She has a very rare disease which
    doesn't have a federal code. It's progressive and the doctors who are the
    federal gatekeepers acknowledge that she CANNOT work and needs SSDI. Yet,
    she's been told to her face that she's" white, so she can work". I told
    her to get a lawyer. Yet, she's been a taxpayer since she was a teenager,
    and can't get help! I have a doctor friend who works as a gatekeeper.
    This doc told me recently that the law is that a Hispanic who never learns
    English and is depressed, and has never worked, gets SSDI.
    ARRRRRRRGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH!

    I'm so fed up because the 'last straw' happened to me, while Christmas
    shopping. I went into a Cuban owned business. I knew it, didn't even
    think about that. (2 of my very best friends are Cuban born, came here
    legally as children.) The owner was by himself, and folded his arms, and
    said, in Spanish, that he didn't speak English. I said, no problema, yo
    habla pocito espanol. He literally stuck his nose in the air and said, in
    Spanish, that he didn't like my Spanish. I guess he didn't know how much
    Spanish I understand. At this point, a young man, early 30's, very well
    dressed and with flawless English, came into the shop, and had heard the
    exchange. He said (and this is the last straw) that "your kind doesn't
    belong here, we're going to drive your kind out of So. Fl. This is Cuba."
    I am not exaggerating, nor kidding. I was floored. Actually struck
    speechless, which I thought was impossible. Such hatred. When I had gone
    in to buy something! When I told my 2 Cuban (now proud American)
    friends...they just looked sick. Of course, the news media would NEVER
    check on this, because, oh my goodness, it might make the Cubans angry.
    SO WHAT! IF this wasn't just an isolated jerk, if there is such a
    movement, shouldn't it be exposed?

    I've always had friends from around the world. My girls, with their
    intelligence, extremely clear enunciation and good grammar, were always
    asked, even in elementary school, to mentor new children so they could
    learn usable English and assimilate easier. I always gave my permission,
    and the children and parents were befriended and were welcome in my home.
    My daughters say they were brought up in a "mini-United Nations." So, I
    feel betrayed, by my own country, which I love so much. We've been law
    abiding and good citizen types. Now I feel like we're being abused and
    our futures thrown away. Our jobs are being out-sourced.
    Manufacturing?...what's that? God help us if foreign sources get taken
    over by unfriendlies, and decided to cut us off from, oh, say for example,
    steel. No one can't say that takeovers won't happen. We helped Saddam
    Hussein get into power, same with the Taliban...then Osama Bin Ladin
    worked for us in Afghanistan....etc. These are just recent examples.

    I don't like feeling like this. I have a grandchild. I
    want him to grow up to a good future with a wide diversity of friends. We
    ENJOYED learning about other countries from new friends, and not just from
    Europe. We have friends from the mid-east, Asia, Africa, Central and
    South America. Our friends are literally from around the world. Yet,
    now, I find myself becoming more nationalistic. Enough. We cannot take
    care of the world. We're being regarded as fools. I heard one recent
    Cuban smuggelee (I don't consider them legal), who was working at my
    hospital, say in Spanish, translated by one of my Cuban friends, that
    "Americans work too hard, and that he'd go home (Cuba) except that
    Americans are so easy to steal from, because we want to believe good about
    everyone." My Cuban friends, have told me that they live in fear of the
    phone ringing...that it's a distant relative from Cuba, who wants to be
    sponsored. That most folk coming from Cuba, now, are criminals. That
    they have had to be in Cuba to survive, but they continue that behavior
    here. They have been raised as Communists, so believe that they should be
    taken care of, and that every friend of theirs, who has taken in such a
    family member, has either been robbed by them, or they have had to pay for
    legal fees because the immigrant gets into trouble with the law. On the
    island, the people are told about "La Ayudar". The Help. They are told
    they can get anything they want by calling 911. I have personally seen
    this in action, and told about it by new immigrants. I hung up the phone
    after a discharged patient called 911 from the ER to get a "ride home".
    She got very angry at me when I told her that 911 was for life-threatening
    emergencies only. That in the USA, people are responsible for taking care
    of themselves. She started shouting "La Ayudar, La Ayudar" at me. When I
    enquired of her frustrated family member, I was told the above.

    People are NOT entitled to come here, just because they want to. Period.

    Also, I have not heard in our local media, anything about what happens to
    our Social Security with amnesty nor with Totalization with Mexico. It's
    taking our future away, for all of us who came here LEGALLY and were good
    citizens.

    President Fox of Mexico has invaded us. No bullets, just numbers. Many
    illegals work under the radar, do NOT pay taxes and send $20 Billion
    dollars to Mexico a year. This does NOT benefit us. Y'all aren't talking
    about the social services that non-taxpayers use.

    Whatever happened to "Ask not what your country can do for you, but what
    you can do for your country"? Just stop giving our country away.

    So: 1. NO ILLEGALS
    2. NO AMNESTY
    3. NO TOTALIZATION
    4. NO TO PRESIDENT FOX'S INVASION
    5. NO TO AUTOMATIC CITIZENSHIP IF NOT BORN TO LEGAL CITIZENS OR
    GREEN CARD HOLDERS
    6. CLOSE OUR BORDERS
    7. NO TO GLOBALIZATION
    8.. STOP GIVING OUR COUNTRY AWAY
    9. LET'S TAKE CARE OF OUR OWN FOR A CHANGE!
    10. ENGLISH AS THE OFFICIAL LANGUAGE
    TIME'S UP!
    **********
    Why should <u>only</u> AMERICAN CITIZENS and LEGAL immigrants, have to obey the law?!

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    Two Jewish groups urged a U.S. congressman to repudiate his statement comparing illegal immigration to a Holocaust.
    Rep. Steve King (R-Iowa) has been outspoken in opposing any plan that would allow some undocumented immigrants to legalize their status.

    Speaking at a May 27 rally, King asserted that illegal immigrants are responsible for the deaths of 25 Americans a day through drug trafficking, drunk driving and sex crimes.

    This was a “slow-motion Holocaust,” he said.
    [b]Rep. Kings's usage of "slow-motion Holocaust", perfectly describes the murder of innocent American victims by illegal aliens. Members in my own family who are of Jewish faith, do not find this remark offensive at all.
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    I would love to see all these identity politics groups disbanded. What purpose do they serve, other than to bully other groups? Whatever happened to just being people?

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    I am a Jewish American and believe in many of the goals of Americans for Legal Immigration. I believe that Cong. King's use of the word Holocaust is an unfortunate use of the word that shows a basic lack of understanding of the Holocaust.

    However, the Congressman is a good man and he is not the first person in the world to make an unfortunate use of words. People make mistakes and they should be judged for their record as a whole. Congressman King is not an Anti-Semite but rather a patriotic American. The ADL often looks for trouble where none exists and needlessly antagonizes people. ADL's head, Foxman should have fired long ago.

    However, I do take issue with with one comment that Israel builds walls and beats Palestinians every day. Israel's wall is for the purpose of preventing the murder of their citizens, including women and children. The country's action have been highly restrained in the face of seventy years of terrorism and war. I know of no other country in the history of the world that has shown this remarkable restraint over an extended time period.

    Immigration foes do diservice to their cause when they bash Israel.

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