Thread: Foreign Workers Taking Jobs Americans Want, Group's Ad Says

Originally Posted by ohflyingone

Is there a link where you can see the commercial?

I couldn't find any video links to see the commercial, but here is the web site of the organization running the ads.

http://www.americanworker.org/

Ran across a couple of related articles.

http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=57087

American Workers' TV Ads Urge President Bush to Cut Flow of Foreign Workers; Ads Cite Job Displacement and Wage Depression

11/22/2005 1:42:00 PM


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To: National Desk, Political Reporter

Contact: Brantley Davis, 202-277-7933, for the Coalition for the Future American Worker

WASHINGTON, Nov. 22 /U.S. Newswire/ -- The Coalition for the Future American Worker (CFAW) launched an educational TV campaign today to address the misperception that "foreign workers do jobs Americans won't do" and that American workers aren't affected by the massive flow of foreign workers into this country. The ads are appearing in selected regions around the country.

Commenting on the campaign, coalition spokesman Roy Beck said, "This public education campaign is long overdue. Hardly anybody is standing up for American workers and blue-collar families any more. Yet, they are the ones disproportionately affected by these uninhibited flows of foreign labor. Americans' wages are being depressed, their jobs are being taken and they're helpless to do much about it."

The commercial features blue-collar and service workers addressing President Bush. The campaign is directed at Bush since he has the power to unilaterally cut the number of foreign workers allowed to enter the country and to stay. In the past, Bush has praised high levels of foreign labor, saying that foreign workers are only taking jobs Americans won't do.

In the initial scene, an unemployed man sitting on the back steps of a middle-class home remarks, "President Bush says foreign workers do jobs Americans won't do. Mr. President, I'll do that job." The next screen features large words reading, "12 million Americans can't find a full time job." Next, a hotel worker tells the President "if immigration increases, we'll have more foreign workers who will work for next to nothing. I need to make enough to feed my family." A screen pointing out that foreign workers depress U.S. wages follows. The TV spot delivers a number of educational facts throughout.

Roy Beck points out that all of the jobs with current high rates of foreign workers were recently filled by Americans. "The massive influx of foreign workers has collapsed one occupation after another so that they no longer provide middle-class wages and benefits," he said. He cites the meat packing industry as a prime example of an industry that once paid good middle class wages until discovering that the availability of an endless supply of foreign workers allowed them to dramatically reduce wages and safety conditions. "It's really a shame. Our misguided immigration policies are causing American workers to lose wages and eventually their jobs," Beck said. "The size of the flow of foreign workers into this country is unprecedented and undermining our entire middle-class society." The campaign will run for an unspecified period. However, Beck indicated that the buys were very heavy featuring 1,100-plus rating points in each region.

CFAW is an umbrella coalition of professional trade groups and grassroots citizen organizations dedicated to educating the public about the effects of mass immigration on American workers and their families.

http://www.journalstar.com

Cheap tactics could stymie reform effort


Too often, discussion of immigration reform degenerates into demagoguery, half-truths and lies.

Candidates for office in Nebraska owe it to voters to keep discussion on a meaningful, productive level, not because of political correctness, but because extremists on both sides have stalemated the issue for too long.

It was only last year that demagoguery was on display in Nebraska in the form of scurrilous anti-immigration attack ads on television that targeted Sen. Chuck Hagel.

The ads featured grainy black-and-white images of minority individuals loafing on a street corner. Later the ads showed a man running away while police sirens blared. The ads were paid for by the Coalition for the Future American Worker, comprised of groups like the Federation for Immigration Reform of Washington, D.C.

The announcer claimed Hagel had introduced “a bill to give away jobs here at home.�

The ads played upon stereotypical racial fears. They discouraged constructive discussion. Nothing much is going to get done if the dialogue stays stuck at that level.

Immigration reform is important to Nebraska on many levels. One of the most important is Nebraska’s reliance on immigrant workers to fill jobs that keep the state’s economy humming. They are a vital segment of the state’s workforce, particularly in communities with meatpacking plants. With an unemployment rate of less than 4 percent, Nebraska has a need for more workers.

Despite the claims made in the attack ads, Hagel’s reform plan stands out because it is comprehensive and realistic. His proposal offers a path for illegal workers already in the United States to apply for legal status after paying a fine. Undocumented workers who have been in this country for less than three years would be required to return to their home counties to obtain a visa.

Applicants would be required to demonstrate that they and their families are part of the community, show a record of law-abiding behavior and payment of taxes and demonstrate a knowledge of English.

In contrast with Hagel’s approach, Rep. Tom Osborne would require all workers in the United States illegally to return to their home countries without providing a path to citizenship, while providing a new worker visa that could be renewed indefinitely. Sen. Ben Nelson has focused on strengthening border security by hiring 3,000 more border agents and 1,200 more customs and border protection officers.

As political campaigns begin to heat up in coming months, candidates may be tempted to resort to tactics that will appeal to hot-headed zealots. But stirring fears and inflaming passions won’t lead to problem-solving. Candidates shouldn’t make the problem more difficult to handle once they get into office.

Here are the Red Rebel's 3 Easy Steps to a Better America:

1) All immigration is halted indefinitely until the population stabilizes around 200 million.

Legal and especially illegal.

2) End birthright citizenship and make it retroactive.

Sorry Paco. If you're parents weren't born here and came here illegally, guess what! Hasta la vista, baby!

3) Mandatory birth control for all people who receive ANY kind of state aid.

If you can't afford to pay for a child you shouldn't be having one. America isn't a socialist state, and never will be.

RedRebel, I agree with the first two proposals, but the third one implies dictatorship. You can't legislate so that mother nature will align with economics. Look at what is happening in China. People kill their own becuase of government mandates. To alot of people in this country, birth control is as bad as an abortion. I've never used it. This is something I leave up to God. If I did what you propose, my daughter may not even be here. Was I suppose to not have any faith in that things will get better, therefore I will be able to afford her? My wife became pregnant with her after I lost my career in construction due to a bad fall. I had two other kids. I had no job. Hey, but guess what, I did have faith and everything is DY-NO-MITE!!

I know you mean well, but I get the feeling that this third proposal comes from an old greedy Repulican attidude. Some republicans don't want to pay for anything but the pentagon and trash pick-up. How can a society (where everyone is not college material) function when greed leaves them on the street?

I won't sit here and defend the pitfalls of the liberal ideas that set these social programs in motion that allow some Americans to get away with raising childern on welfare. Barring any illegal immigration issues, I will say, that if we don't have some programs in place to deal with this stigma, then we are no better than those people who abuse these programs. You know as well as I do that the capibility to pull one's self up by their bootstraps is becoming harder and harder to do. Especially with job outsourcing and illegal immigration.

I know your proposals were to address illegal immigrants recieving federal, state or local benefits, but this would also affect us Americans too, that aren't quite as fortunate as you might be.

I value your input and look forward to your future postings. Happy Holidays!

Good points, RockFish, BUT I am TIRED of supporting ILLEGALS coming here, having MULTIPLE births at OUR expense. SO, there has to be an answer. If we did away with the anchor baby law, most of that would take care of itself. Aside from that, I would say that, if you are getting ANY type of welfare and you are ILLEGAL, don't get pregnant again or you will NOT get welfare for another child. Don't forget--most of these illegals are Catholic and refuse to practice birth control and, if they can support all of those children, FINE. BUT, if I am the one having to support them, that's a whole different story. It was hard enough for ME to support the two I PRODUCED. It is NOT my responsibility to support anyone else's.

Rockfish, I thank you for respectfully disagreeing with me. I know it might have been hard for you, because I'm aware that people who feel as you do about birth control feel about it very passionately.

I'm also glad that your situation worked out for the best with your family. Unfortunately, that is not the case in alot, if not most situations. Faith is a wonderful thing, but I've found that you need to exercise it to let it meet your circumstances and not bring your circumstances to your faith. It isn't enough to pray to God over your problems; a person of faith gets their hands dirty in the process along with praying.

That is the part that too many members of American society have left out of the equation, and it has become an unfortunate cultural norm. When the problems don't cease from praying, people in this country start demanding and expecting that Uncle Sam will pick up the tab. This is leading to America becoming a socialist state.

I guess that you and I will vote differently on the issue when it comes to the floor, and that's fine. The easiest way not to bring a child into a potentially bad economic situation is to simply not have sex. That's the best birth control of all. Unfortunately, too many people who were raised in the welfare state, have a sense of entitlement from our overly generous Democracy and know every possible way to abuse the system won't acknowledge that notion. The result is high crime, taxes, death, separation of the rich and the poor, and overpopulation. This is also known as "growth" as the wealthy limosine liberals, who are insulated from actually living in it and benefit economically from it.

The dictatorship situation you mention is what I'm trying to prevent! In 50 years the children of these limosine liberals will own our children from the evolution of America's welfare state. Dictatorships all over the world have baby farms to produce cheap labor. They encourage heavy birth rates if only to sustain a dependent labor force that keeps their machine running. Yes, I know that it's reactionary but it's time we opened our eyes to what is really going on. Our(?) opposition is grounded in much too well and will most certainly triumph if extreme measures aren't taken.

Dictatorships all over the world farm human babies at state expense to have a cheap, oppressed, and controlled labor pool to draw from and dispense of with little mess when they get too old. It's happening in America already, but is sugarcoated by Democrats and the media. They are called "willing workers", but they are really desperate slaves.

Republicans want Americans to get what they deserve. Democrats want Americans to get what they think they deserve. Republicans also accentuate America's positive attributes, in an attempt to preserve the intent of the Founding Fathers. Democrats accentuate America's negative attributes in an attempt to pervert it into a socialist state.

Please think of the differences and what they will lead to over time.

Bootsie and Redrebel-This is where I think a double standard needs to be in effect. If you are illegally here, you don't get a dime for whatever reason you may have--pregnancy or no pregnancy..because you aren't suppose to be here.

Secondly, I believe that if you are here AS A CITIZEN!!!!, then you are entitled to welfare when things get tough no matter how many kids you have (As long as certain parameters can be met like long term employment was ended DUE TO JOB OUTSOURCING). Our government must be held accountable if they are going to allow massive outsourcing. They cannot simply leave people with less resources, if any at all.

That is what I meant when I said 'barring any illegal immigrant issues...'.

I miss my Basset Hound. But I have a Beagle now. Great dog!!

Faith is a wonderful thing, but I've found that you need to exercise it to let it meet your circumstances and not bring your circumstances to your faith. It isn't enough to pray to God over your problems; a person of faith gets their hands dirty in the process along with praying.

Redrebel, I couldn't agree with you more, in fact you said it better than I could have. I am a person who believes that God needs help helping you.
This is only done when you help yourself.

I love Beagles, too, Rockfish!! But, you definitely need to get your Beagle a Basset BUDDY!

I still have a problem with legal Americans USING, or maybe I should say ABUSING, the American welfare system. It's one thing to get temporary help from the government because of situations beyond one's control but I just have a problem with people who are ALREADY getting welfare that continue to add MORE CHILDREN to the population that the taxpayers are supporting.

That's exactly what happened to me. But, I do agree with you.

You are a wise person!!! Or FISH???