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    Another caravan on the way: 15,000 heading north but destination is Chiapas Mexico

    Another caravan on the way: 15,000 heading north but destination is Chiapas
    They plan to look for work on Maya Train or government's reforestation project


    Monday, December 24, 2018

    Another large migrant caravan is on its way to Mexico but unlike those that came before it, this one isn’t headed for the United States’ southern border, according to a migrants’ advocate

    “A new caravan of 15,000 people has already left Honduras for Chiapas,” said Irma Garrido, a member of the migrant advocacy group Reactiva Tijuana Foundation.


    “We assume that this caravan . . . will pick up more people in El Salvador and Guatemala. But their aim is to arrive in Chiapas and request work there” on the Maya Train project and the reforestation announced by President López Obrador.


    The new president has pledged that Central Americans who want to work in Mexico will be given a work visa, while the governments of Mexico and the United States last week agreed to work together on a development plan in southern Mexico and Central America to curb migration.

    Thousands of Central Americans have crossed Mexico’s southern border over the past two months as part of several caravans, with most continuing their journey towards the Mexico-United States border despite offers by the previous government of shelter, medical attention, schooling and jobs if they stayed in Chiapas or Oaxaca.


    The largest cohort is currently in Tijuana, Baja California.

    The massive arrival of Central Americans in the northern border city triggered an anti-migrant backlash that manifested in a large protest, a confrontation between residents and a group of migrants in the coastal Playas de Tijuana district and Tijuana Mayor Juan Manuel Gastélum – dubbed Tijuana’s Trump – declaring that the caravan members are not wanted.

    Garrido said that news of the “strong xenophobia” in Tijuana against migrants has reached those currently heading to Chiapas, insinuating that it was a factor in their decision to remain in the southern state.


    However, she said that some members of the new caravan would likely travel later to Mexico’s northern border and seek to enter the United States.

    Those already there face a long wait to file asylum requests as the United States government has introduced a daily “metering” system that limits the number of asylum cases U.S. border authorities will hear.


    Stranded on the border, an increasing number of migrants have crossed or attempted to cross the border illegally to turn themselves in to border patrol agents and circumvent the lengthy wait for an opportunity to apply for asylum.


    But last week, United States authorities announced that migrants who enter the U.S. and seek asylum there will be returned to Mexico to await the outcome of their claims.


    Mexico’s Secretariat of Foreign Affairs (SRE) responded that it would cooperate with the United States policy change, announcing that it would take back some non-Mexican migrants although it added that the right to reject or admit the entry of foreigners will be retained.


    It is unclear how many migrants would be shipped back to Mexico but the head of the National Immigration Institute (INM) said his agency would not be able to receive them in the short term.


    However, Foreign Affairs spokesman Roberto Velasco said the new rule would apply only to new asylum applicants and not those who have already entered the U.S.


    Source: El Sol de Tijuana (sp)

    https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/ano...an-on-the-way/

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    Send 15,000 ILLEGAL MEXICAN'S back home to go work on the train.


    GET THEM OFF OUR SOIL!

    TURN THEM ALL AWAY FROM OUR BORDER!

    BUS THE ILLEGAL ONES OUT OF TIJUANA...OUT OF OUR BORDER STATES AND SEND THEM THERE!

    WE DO NOT WANT THEM!
    ILLEGAL ALIENS HAVE "BROKEN" OUR IMMIGRATION SYSTEM

    DO NOT REWARD THEM - DEPORT THEM ALL

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    Another, bigger migrant caravan is set to leave from Honduras next month


    A migrant family from Honduras climbs the border fence to jump inside the United States to San Diego, from Tijuana, Mexico, Wednesday, Dec. 26, 2018. (Daniel Ochoa de Olza / AP)

    Wendy FryContact Reporter

    Another migrant caravan — with estimates of as many as 15,000 participants — is preparing to leave Honduras on January 15, according to migrant rights advocates and Spanish-language media.

    “They say they are even bigger and stronger than the last caravan,” said Irma Garrido, a member of the migrant advocacy group Reactiva Tijuana Foundation.


    Meanwhile, thousands of Central American migrants from a caravan that left Honduras in October remain stranded at the U.S.-Mexico border and languishing in crowded Tijuana shelters while they wait out a lengthy process to file asylum requests with the United States.


    Coordinators who helped direct the migrants on the 2,000-mile trek with bullhorns, arranging for buses and giving advice along the way, have mostly vanished. Many of the migrants say they feel abandoned and unsure where to turn next. Some are ready to return home.

    Garrido said this new, larger caravan will likely be joined by more people in El Salvador and in Guatemala, but she said they don’t plan on coming straight to the Tijuana-San Diego border, where resources are already stretched nearly to a breaking point.


    “They will stay in the south of Mexico in Chiapas and Oaxaca. Their aim is to request work there,” she said.


    Mexico’s President Andrés Manuel López Obrador has pledged visas and work in Mexico for Central American migrants. In his inauguration speech, he pledged public works projects like planting two million trees and construction of his Maya Train, a 1,500-kilometer railroad. It will link cities in the three Yucatan peninsula states as well as Tabasco and Chiapas.


    The $8 billion project is expected to create hundreds of thousands of jobs in the southern states of Mexico.


    Last week, Mexico and the United States agreed to develop a plan to curb Central American migration. The plan includes a $25 billion investment from Mexico into its southern states over the next five years. The United States will contribute $4.8 billion to Mexico and $5.8 billion to the Northern Triangle of Central America, which is made up of Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador. Most of the United States funding will be allocated from existing aid programs.


    El Diario de Chiapas, a newspaper for the southern state of Mexico, reported that — like the last caravan — news about the groups’ plans to leave Honduras, their numbers and which routes they would be taking is spreading mostly by social media.


    On Facebook, reaction in Chiapas to news of a second caravan was not all favorable.


    “Well, now the government does something. That work is for Mexicans that need it,” said Anna Pérez from Palenque, Chiapas, Mexico on Facebook. “Opportunistic people who just want to take advantage of the Mexicans.”


    The caravan that left Honduras in October, drawing the ire of U.S. President Donald Trump and capturing international media attention, was not the first. Crowds of migrants often travel together in groups for protection from criminals that stalk the routes.


    Pueblo Sin Fronteras has led migrant caravans from Central America for more than 15 years, usually bringing the largest crowds just before Easter.


    The organization and its work was relatively unknown to most Americans until the president began tweeting about the caravan ahead of the midterm elections.


    The El Diario de Chiapas newspaper reported some of the new caravan participants eventually plan to make their way north to Tijuana and try to enter the United States, but that would not be their initial destination.


    In Tijuana, presence of Central American migrants has sparked protest and even violence.


    Last week, two people threw a canister of tear gas into El Barretal shelter, according to Mexican federal police.

    On Dec. 15, two Honduran teenagers were viciously beaten, tortured and killed by low-level members of the Cártel Jalisco Nueva Generacion, highlighting the dangers for unaccompanied minors in the caravan.



    After the teenagers’ deaths, the Consulate of Honduras issued a warning: “We reiterate the call to Honduran nationals that they not risk their lives and the lives of their families on the dangers that the migratory route represents, where migrants are exposed to being victims of traffickers,” the statement read in Spanish.


    Thousands remain stuck in Tijuana, a city with more than 2,000 homicides this year, leaving the Central American migrants almost as vulnerable as they were grappling with the gang violence that caused them to flee their homeland.

    https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com...227-story.html

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    They are liars. Their "aim" is to eventually come here.

    Trump...YOU shut that whole border down now and send the message to Mexico to keep them ALL on their Southern border!
    ILLEGAL ALIENS HAVE "BROKEN" OUR IMMIGRATION SYSTEM

    DO NOT REWARD THEM - DEPORT THEM ALL

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    In my opinion, other countries see us as vulnerable and lacking the will or courage to truly secure the borders of the United States. They see us abdicating the responsibility to fully enforce interior immigration laws, to remove visa overstays and illegal aliens on any massive scale. They know how to game the system and play all of the sympathy cards.

    President Trump possesses the power and tools to accomplish the goal. I hope and pray he stands tall and does the things that are his responsibility toward the American people.
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    "However, she said that some members of the new caravan would likely travel later to Mexico’s northern border and seek to enter the United States."


    Yep, no doubt "some" will eventually turn into most. They're just attempting to keep it low key for now.

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    "Another migrant caravan — with estimates of as many as 15,000 participants — is preparing to leave Honduras on January 15, according to migrant rights advocates and Spanish-language media."
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