Thread: Rand Paul: Republican Party needs to stop talking about ‘deportation’

H2 Note: Here you have it. The best the GOP has to offer in 2016 with the declaration of surrender not just of the GOP, but of the country. Rand just endorsed the GOP's agreement to nullify written IMMIGRATION laws and plays in direct harmony with everything we are hearing out of GOP management.

This is right from the talking point pages of Mike Huckabee, John Boehner, Mitch McConnel, and Marco Rubio.

We don't have to listen to Obama's amnesty anymore. Just turn on Fox News and listen to any 'Republican' running for office ..

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The Right Scoop
Posted on Apr 1, 2014

"One way to open that “door” to the Hispanic community is to offer reassurances that “Mrs. Garcia’s nephew is not going to be sent home to Mexico.”

Rand Paul: Republican Party needs to stop talking about ‘deportation’

Rand Paul says that if we want to get the attention of Hispanic voters, the GOP needs to stop talking about deportation and instead reassure “Mrs. Garcia” that her nephew “is not going to be sent home to Mexico.”

POLITICO – Sen. Rand Paul on Tuesday argued that the Republican Party needs to get “beyond deportation” in order to break through to Hispanic voters.

The Kentucky Republican and likely 2016 contender argued that before the GOP can make its case to the Latino community, which voted overwhelmingly for Democrats in 2012, the party needs to make clear it is open to a more welcoming approach to immigration.

“The bottom line is, the Hispanic community, the Latino community is not going to hear us until we get beyond that issue,” he said at a conservative event. His comments came immediately following a discussion on work visas, in the context of a broader address about reaching out to that community.

“They’re not going to care whether we go to the same church or have the same values or believe in the same kind of future of our country until we get beyond that. Showing up helps, but you got to show up and you got to say something, and it has to be different from what we’ve been saying.”

That differs from the political path promoted by some of Paul’s fellow conservatives, who argue that if the GOP highlights other areas of common ground with the Hispanic community beyond immigration — shared religious and entrepreneurial values, for example — that will be sufficient to make inroads with Hispanics.

“I think that what’s happened is, there is not the perception of empathy coming from the Republican Party that we care about where they’re coming from and we care about what their problems are,” he said of minorities at a conservative gathering at the Newseum. “Until we get to that point, they’re not going to listen to any of the next message. Are there many in the Latino community who go to church, believe in tradition values, are conservative? Yes. Maybe half, maybe 60 percent … there’s enormous upside potential … but you got to get the door ajar.”

One way to open that “door” to the Hispanic community, he said, is to offer reassurances that “Mrs. Garcia’s nephew is not going to be sent home to Mexico.”

http://therightscoop.com/rand-paul-r...t-deportation/

I disagree with you Rand Paul as do most Americans with any sense. This is why we have to make sure you never become President because instead of supporting the Constitution and existing border and immigration laws... Rand Paul is just another open borders libertarian flake!

We need a President that will support the Constitution for a change and is more than ready to deport illegal aliens to send a message to the rest of the world they cannot all come here illegally.

W

Originally Posted by ALIPAC

We need a President that will support the Constitution for a change and is more than ready to deport illegal aliens to send a message to the rest of the world they cannot all come here illegally.

W

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Let us know when you find one of (those) please. Rand seemingly was fighting for the Constitution on the NSA spying issues, but this nullifies and offsets him as majorly off-balance.

How can he give marathon speeches in defense of our Constitutional rights and completely discard one of the main cornerstones of The Constitution - namely defending America from both domestic and FOREIGN enemies?

I see not a soul on the horizon up to the challenge, or willing to go up against the Kleptocracy now in dominant control of all sectors, public and private.

H2

Real patriots need to "have it out" with the pseudo conservatives over amnesty and Hispanic pandering. What good would it do if "conservatives" won on every issue and amnesty (a.k.a. legal status) became the law? Every conservative victory every important political office holder would be swept away in near future elections when Hispanics inevitably vote overwhelmingly Democrat/Marxist. Mr. Paul and his ilk keep promoting some miracle conversion of Mexican voters to conservatisms if we will just go along with the mass legalization of illegal aliens. Either Mr. Paul is on the big money take from billionaires, Democrat and Republican, or he is a flaming jerk without any commonsense.

And why is it that he and his ilk work mightily at ignoring the existence of Reagan Blue Collar Democrats people who have numbers more than adequate to match the Hispanic voters. Blue Collar workers are religious and family orientated, but even more so they share our uniquely American culture and language and are more patriotic than illegal aliens.

They share more common values with conservatives than Hispanics in general. Why are these real Americans ignored and no effort is made to "reach out" to them? Why is it only among non Caucasian voters that Paul and his buffoons say we must seek votes? Only 5% of Blacks voted for Romney yet 40% of Whites voted for Obama. Who is the racists? Why do Republicans not seek votes among those 40% Whites and the other large group of voters who stayed home? Why is it only among the non Caucasian voters the GOP tells us they must seek votes?

YOU CAN NOT BE A CONSERVATIVE OR A TRUE LIMITED GOVERNMENT ADVOCATE AND ALSO BE FOR AMNESTY FOR ILLEGA ALIENS -- PERIOD. The two are contradictory and irreconcilable.

If this country dies it will be because the struggle to stop mass amnesty failed. And if that happens it will be caused as much by Mr. Paul and his ilk as it would be caused by the hard left. There is something very sick about those who seek to make common cause with the enemy against their friends.

We must never allow pseudo conservatives to co-opt the patriotic movement and peddle a "good amnesty" in its name. We must raise bloody hell, if necessary, to slap down Mr. Paul and his politically suicidal minions.

Paul like his father is an open border guy IMO while I've often agreed with him and his father I would distrust him in high office.

In reply to "HAPPY2BME: Good lord! What about Jeff Sessions? He has been an immovable rock fighting amnesty and open borders. Why is this patriot not given any recognition for his uncompromising fight against, as you have noted, virtually every politician and mega rich oligarch. Why is he never given the accolades he has earned? And why is his name never mentioned as a conservative leader? He deserves better than being ignored by those who should love him.

The apple fell directly beneath the tree! Lake father, like son.

by Tony Lee 1 Apr 2014, 11:13 AM PDT
breitbart.com



Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) thinks Republicans can win Hispanic voters only if the party gets "beyond deportation to the rest of the issues."

“The bottom line is, the Hispanic community, the Latino community is not going to hear us until we get beyond that issue,” Paul said on Tuesday, according to Politico.

Before a potential 2016 presidential run, Paul is trying to broaden his organization and fundraising to include more establishment donors. Many of them believe that Hispanic voters will give Republicans a chance only if Republicans soften on issues like comprehensive immigration reform and amnesty. They don't take into account that amnestied voters would be a way for Democrats to import more voters, as Rosemary Jenks of Numbers USA has often said. Moreover, Hispanics did not move over to the GOP after the last massive amnesty legislation in 1986.

Speaking at a symposium sponsored by the Media Research Center and the American Principles Project, Paul reportedly said that if Hispanics were assured that “Mrs. Garcia’s nephew is not going to be sent home to Mexico," they would take a look at the policy solutions Republicans have to offer.

According to Politico, Paul also said that Republicans needed to acknowledge that illegal immigration is "not always the individual’s fault."

“Sometimes it’s a child who has no control over this. But sometimes it’s also someone who came here and tried to use our system," he said. "We as conservatives talk a lot about big government and how big government never seems to work. We’re always talking about Obamacare now, how big government is a disaster…well guess what, big government’s not very good with the visa system, either.”

Paul voted against the Senate's Gang of Eight amnesty bill, which the Congressional Budget Office determined would lower the wages of American workers, but he told WNDtv last July that he favored the normalization of illegal immigrants so that they could get work visas.

"Let’s normalize them, let’s make them taxpayers,” Paul said. “They’re not going home."

In that interview, he also asked those who opposed amnesty what they would do with the country's illegal immigrants.

“Are they for sending these people home?" he asked. "Do they want us to put them in concentration camps, on buses, and send them back home? I don’t think anyone’s proposing that.”

At a recent event celebrating the five-year anniversary of the Tea Party, Paul told conservatives to avoid inflammatory language and called on Ted Nugent to apologize for referring to President Obama as a "subhuman mongrel."

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Governm...ispanic-Voters

"Let’s normalize them, let’s make them taxpayers,” Paul said. “They’re not going home."

What about the next wave Senator, do we keep the next 20 million, what is the "enough" number you and other open border folks want. Only when our quality of life and our work force destroyed will progressive's be happy. The naive GOP leaders really believe we will gain votes with amnesty then I have some bridge stock to sell you, the truth is they don't care it's about donation money from groups like Chamber of Commerce who want cheap labor along with consumers of junk products from China where more slave labor is available.

Originally Posted by csarbww

In reply to "HAPPY2BME: Good lord! What about Jeff Sessions? He has been an immovable rock fighting amnesty and open borders. Why is this patriot not given any recognition for his uncompromising fight against, as you have noted, virtually every politician and mega rich oligarch. Why is he never given the accolades he has earned? And why is his name never mentioned as a conservative leader? He deserves better than being ignored by those who should love him.

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The GOP is controlled to the point where they will NEVER allow Jeff Sessions even a consideration. He would certainly gain the votes of the majority of Conservatives, but would have to run as an INDEPENDENT.

What are the chances of that?