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    GOP Rep: House Leaders Made False Promise to Get My Crucial Vote

    ALIPAC NOTE: So once again John Boehner and his cronies use lies and deception to get their way! Nobody can trust a word they say! If Stutzman had not voted for the Rule, the CRomnibus bill would have been defeated in the close vote in the afternoon of Dec. 11, 2014! Join our call for Boehner and McConnell to be removed from their leadership positions with our open letter (Click Here)

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    GOP Rep: House Leaders Made False Promise to Get My Crucial Vote
    By Joel Gehrke
    December 12, 2014 12:53 AM


    Representative Marlin Stutzman (R., Ind.) accused House Republican leadership of reneging on a deal made with him to get his support on a crucial procedural vote that almost killed the $1.1 trillion cromnibus.


    “I was very surprised and even more disappointed to see the cromnibus back on the floor,” Stutzman said in a Thursday evening statement. “The American people deserve better.”



    Stutzman was one of the last Republicans to cast his ballot in favor of a rule allowing the House to vote on the cromnibus. National Review Online reported that Stutzman backed the rule at the last minute after leadership told him that they would pull the cromnibus, once the rule was passed, and replace it with a short-term continuing resolution favored by rank-and-file conservatives. With the last-minute help of Stutzman and outgoing Representative Kerry Bentivolio (R., Mich.), leadership won the vote 214-212.



    “I supported the Rule because I was informed by leadership that the cromnibus was dead and a short term CR would take its place,” Stutzman said.


    After President Obama came out in favor of the cromnibus, Republican leaders spent the day whipping their members and hoping that Democrats would deliver the requisite number of votes.



    “The cromnibus bill, over 1,600 pages long, does many things but what is most important is what it does not do,” he said. “It fails to directly address President Obama’s dangerous executive action on immigration and fails to include many of the solutions that could have been passed in January with a Republican House and Senate in an open process.”




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    Poor confused little victim. He will be facing his constituents I hope they recall him. People didn't elect these people to play with the party, they were elected to represent the interest and well being of the people that elect them. JMO
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    Quote Originally Posted by Newmexican View Post
    Poor confused little victim. He will be facing his constituents I hope they recall him. People didn't elect theses people to play with the party, they were elected to represent the interest and well being of the people that elect them. JMO
    I just realized that "recalling" a work permit, visa or green card is as legal and easier than recalling one of the fools, thieves and traitors that gave it to him/her. Our position must be a "recall" of any work permit, visa, green card, citizenship, job and/or other benefit issued by the Obama Administration to anyone who is or was an illegal alien. These stupid notions that because they're here we can't deport them and because we gave them permission or a benefit we can't take it away are just that: STUPID .... because of course we can and must send them packing. They can "cry me a river" from their home countries where they belong.
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    Boehner stooped to a new low yesterday and proved once and for all that he is unsalvageable and unworthy of any type of leadership position. He is cut from the same cloth as Obama and somehow, someway must be removed as speaker.
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    It appears that the GOP is part of the groupthink.
    Life in Post-Truth America


    December 12, 2014 by Daniel Greenfield 31 Comments

    Daniel Greenfield, a Shillman Journalism Fellow at the Freedom Center, is a New York writer focusing on radical Islam. He is completing a book on the international challenges America faces in the 21st century.





    Next month Americans will experience the fifteenth anniversary of the time that the President of the United States shook his finger at the country and informed it, “I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky. I never told anybody to lie, not a single time; never.”

    Bill Clinton was lying. But the lie was more significant than the thing that he was lying about.

    When the lie came crashing down, Clinton and his defenders deconstructed the English language, questioning the meaning of every word in his sentence rather than admit that the lie was a lie.

    Given a choice between telling the truth or challenging the definitions of such words as “sex” and “is”, they decided to burn their dictionary.

    Clinton’s antics set the stage for a current administration which can never be caught in a lie because it’s lying all the time. Obama and his people don’t just lie, they lie about the lies and then they lie about those lies. Bringing them in to testify just clogs the filters with an extra layer of lies.

    Invite Gruber to testify about the time that he admitted that the administration had been lying and the only thing that will happen is more lies being told by a man who is there only because he lied.

    Like the old lady who explained her cosmology to Bertrand Russell as being “turtles all the way down”, with modern progressives it’s lies all the way down.

    Lena Dunham served up a rape accusation against a conservative Republican named Barry only to hide behind the ambiguity of being an unreliable narrator. The unreliable narrator likewise takes the stage at the University of Virginia where a high profile case has dissolved into contradictory stories in which it becomes difficult to tell whether it was the reporter or her subject who was doing the lying.

    The unreliable narrator has crossed over from a fictional device in novels to memoirs, journalism and into politics.

    Journalists repeatedly dismissed ObamaCare scandals by arguing that no one could have taken Obama’s claims at face value anyway. When Obama promised Americans that they could keep their doctors, the housewife in Topeka, the freelance programmer in San Francisco and the geologist in Tulsa were supposed to be as knowing as the Washington press corps and realize that he didn’t mean it.

    Like Lena Dunham, Obama was an unreliable narrator. No one was ever supposed to expect the truth from him.
    The significance of Bill Clinton was not in his affairs, but in his cynicism. He got away with lying by dismissing the idea that anyone should have ever expected the truth from him. Obama expanded on his work by eliminating the base truth underneath the lies.
    The device of the unreliable narrator puts truth out of reach. It says that there is no such thing as truth, only various perspectives on an event.

    Lena Dunham doesn’t claim to be providing facts, only different versions of a story. The facts themselves cannot be retrieved because there are no facts. The man in question is no longer named Barry. Every descriptive detail about him might be equally false. The whole thing may never have happened, but it’s important to believe that it happened without ever expecting it to be true.
    This is the Doublethink state of our progressive Oceania. We are expected to believe a lie while remembering that it’s a lie and therefore never really fooled us or caused anyone any harm.

    We were supposed to believe Obama’s assurances about ObamaCare while knowing them not to be true. We are supposed to believe Lena Dunham and Jackie and Gruber while disbelieving them. “The essential act of the Party is to use conscious deception while retaining the firmness of purpose that goes with complete honesty,” Orwell wrote.

    The conscious deceptions of the modern Doublethinkers depend on them telling a lie in the service of the greater truth. That pursuit of a greater truth built out of lies is what motivated a Rolling Stone article about fraternity rapists that even Mike Nifong would have turned his nose up at or Gruber’s arrogant truths about lying. The greater truth gives them the firmness of purpose and the complete honesty.

    Lena Dunham in BuzzFeed, the apologists for ObamaCare and the activist cheerleaders for Rolling Stone, insist that the facts are a technicality that is obstructing the greater truth. And the greater truth is a worldview that is out of the reach of facts and can never be disproven.

    Bill Clinton and his allies deconstructed the English language rather than admit a lie. Their successors deconstruct reality. They deny that objective truth exists or even matters. They didn’t lie because there is no such thing as truth. There are perspectives, some of which agree with Bill Clinton’s version of reality or Lena Dunham’s version of reality.

    And then there is Obama’s version of reality.

    Obama is the nexus of Doublethink. He is the man whom reporters have denounced as the greatest enemy of press freedom in a generation and whom they compulsively defend with every possible lie. Why do journalists protect and serve the man who threatened them, bugged and even tried to lock them up? They too have long ago become unreliable narrators of their own profession.
    In the absence of facts, there can be no reality. There is only ideology.

    Obama doesn’t simply lie. He exists in a truth-free zone. He doesn’t stumble with any construction as clumsy as Kerry’s “I actually did vote for the $87 billion, before I voted against it.” He does not start with truthful facts. His starting point is in an imaginary territory. It ends in an imaginary territory. If the two imaginary territories are different, it scarcely matters because neither place was ever real.
    When he came into office Obama insisted that we had to pivot to fighting Al Qaeda in Afghanistan even though it was no longer in Afghanistan. He went on claiming victory over an enemy that didn’t exist while dismissing ISIS as a jayvee team even when it was capturing entire cities in Iraq.

    These weren’t mere lies. This was a foreign policy being conducted in an imaginary territory. It was Wag the Dog being played out in real life. But then again what is real around Obama anyway?

    Bill Clinton lied. Obama tells stories. None of these stories have anything to do with reality.

    Lena Dunham’s biography is a peek into a disordered mind that is incapable of grasping the concept of truth. In her world there are no facts, only stories that elicit emotional reactions. Obama’s entire career rests on the same technique of telling stories for emotional effect without any regard for reality.

    ObamaCare was an ugly collectivist bureaucratic dinosaur clothed in imaginary stories. The stories about it, about the economy, about the war are still being told. Added to it are new stories about racism. The stories are passionate, compelling and appealing. They are also completely unreal.

    Progressives don’t only live in a post-American world; they live in a post-Truth world. A world without facts and without truth is one in which the America that was cannot exist.

    America had prospered because of a firm belief in a discoverable and exploitable reality. That was the country that could build skyscrapers and fleets in a year. Post-Truth America has little interest in big buildings because it’s too busy enacting a psychodrama in which the earth is about to be destroyed. And fleets, like horses and bayonets and facts, are 19th century toys that are much less interesting than the manipulation of people through lies and deceit.

    Lena Dunham’s Barry and Obama’s Barry are both imaginary creatures. They are the sophisticated products of disordered minds and a disordered civilization whose leading figures lie as instinctively and as shamelessly as any pre-rational culture that could not distinguish between lies and truth.

    http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/dgr...truth-america/
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    Daniel greenfield must be a young'un. In my lifetime political lying began rising when Nixon said, "Your President is not a crook!" More proof that schools are not teaching history. Greenfield in my book is a liar calling others liars

    Concerning Stutzman if he does not realize that lying is ingrained in his leaders by previous leaders all the way back to 1970's he is na´ve and should not be trusted in Congress either! It just might be proof tat he did not get an education about recent history, either!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagicCity View Post
    Boehner stooped to a new low yesterday and proved once and for all that he is unsalvageable and unworthy of any type of leadership position. He is cut from the same cloth as Obama and somehow, someway must be removed as speaker.
    We must remove Boehner he is no different then Pelosi or any other progressive DC insider who works for big business and his own stock portfolio, enough is enough. Sadly we've become like any third world country with a corrupt government.
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    They are all traitors and should be treated accordingly!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kevinssdad View Post
    Daniel greenfield must be a young'un. In my lifetime political lying began rising when Nixon said, "Your President is not a crook!" More proof that schools are not teaching history. Greenfield in my book is a liar calling others liars

    Concerning Stutzman if he does not realize that lying is ingrained in his leaders by previous leaders all the way back to 1970's he is na´ve and should not be trusted in Congress either! It just might be proof tat he did not get an education about recent history, either!
    He is young but coming around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by silverhorse View Post
    They are all traitors and should be treated accordingly!
    You are right on. If you go to a legislative body with principles, you must stand your ground and standup for principles before you sell out to others that are known to be unprincipled. Boehner's principles are well known not to exist. I do not know Stutzman, but he has proven that he probably talks a good game, but he is very lacking in adequate spine to walk the walk! Those kind do not make good legislators. They become someone else's pawn!
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