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    92,000 DEAD IN MEXICO’S WAR ON THE DRUG CARTELS

    92,000 DEAD IN MEXICO’S WAR ON THE DRUG CARTELS



    A woman shows a picture of a missing relative

    Sunday January 20,2013
    By Mike Parker

    THE horrific cost of Mexico’s six-year war on drugs has been starkly highlighted by a civil rights group that says the official 72,000 death toll may be wildly underestimating the scale of the slaughter.

    It has published the grim statistic that 20,851 more victims have ­simply disappeared since the government declared war on the drug cartels.

    It believes many of the missing women and children may still be alive, kidnapped by the cartels from remote villages and put to use as sex slaves.

    The missing include 138 soldiers, 1,300 police ­officers and 58 journalists known to have been ­assassinated by cartel hitmen.

    We have published our results so the public, and the world, can begin to understand the scale of violence.
    Propuesta Civica director Pilar Talavera

    The group Propuesta Civica – Civic Proposal – says it arrived at the figure after extensive research of “all available databases” in the country.

    Director Pilar Talavera said: “We have published our results so the public, and the world, can begin to understand the scale of violence.

    “We also want to pressure the authorities to ­disclose official information on the disappeared.

    “What the relatives need most is to learn what may have happened to their loved ones.”

    Civic Proposal’s report has triggered a wave of anger in Mexico, where President Enrique Pena Nieto, who assumed office on December 1, pledged greater “transparency” than his predecessor Felipe Calderon, who declared war on the six ­cartels battling for control of trafficking routes into the US that some analysts estimate yield more than £24billion in illicit ­narcotics sales annually.

    The report has also sent those desperate to learn the fate of loved ones on to the
    streets ­carrying placards with photos of the missing.

    It has galvanised other civil rights groups into action, with plans for a March of Dignity in the capital Mexico City later this year. One, Provictima, told the Sunday Express: “There is nothing worse than not knowing the fate of a loved one. We, too, will do everything we can to find out what has happened to as many of these people as possible.”

    Its new 92,000 possible death toll puts Mexico far ahead of other Latin American nations devastated by strife. In Chile, nearly 3,100 people were killed during the brutal dictatorship of Augusto Pinochet between 1973 and 1990. In Argentina between 9,000 and 30,000 “subversives” disappeared during the regime of president Leopoldo Galtieri which ended in 1982 with defeat by Britain in the Falklands.

    Even in Colombia, where drug barons have torn the country apart for decades, 50,000 have gone missing, but this figure is over the past 40 years.

    Araceli Rodriguez, mother of a Mexican policeman who vanished in 2009, said: “I want to know what happened to him. I still hope and pray my son is alive but, if he is dead, I need to know. The whole world needs to know what is happening here.”

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    Lets' think about where ALL those guns in Mexico come from. Many were sent through the government's military sales office and many more come from China,Eastern Europe and South America. Many came from the US government under Bill Clinton according to this and they are still there. It seems that the only people that did well in Mexico after NAFTA was the Big Corporations and Wall Street.


    The NAFTA War

    Story by Greg Campbell

    Mexico's Zapatista rebels dared to defy a NAFTA-brokered sellout of their lands -- and quickly found themselves in the crosshairs of U.S. firepower.

    Like it is every New Year's Day, the New York Stock Exchange was closed Jan. 1, 1994. While traders nursed hangovers from New Year's Eve celebrations or watched college football games with their families at home, the normally chaotic floor of the exchange remained clean and silent, perhaps in unconscious preparation for the explosive upward trend the stock market was going to take in the beginning of that year starting with the high close of the Dow Jones Industrial Average Jan. 2.Thousands of miles away from New York, in Chiapas, Mexico, the New Year also came in with a bang, but in a far more literal sense: a band of revolutionaries called the Zapatista National Liberation Army declared war on the Mexican army by storming and occupying four county seats in that southernmost state.

    Though seemingly unrelated on the surface, the two events have one thing in common: Both were the result of the North American Free Trade Agreement, which went into effect one second after the ball dropped in New York's Times Square.
    According to Zapatista spokesman Subcomandante Marcos, the revolution was purposely timed to coincide with the beginning of NAFTA, an agreement he called "a death certificate for the Indian peoples of Mexico." For CEOs of multinational
    corporations, the trade agreement meant a promising future of shaving numbers off production costs while simultaneously opening doors to new markets. For these lucky few, NAFTA was more than a fresh breath of economic air; it was like Christmas day all over again.


    But for indigenous Indians of Chiapas, Mexico's adoption of NAFTA meant the possibility of losing the only thing of value in that extremely impoverished area: the land that had been constitutionally promised to them after the Mexican revolution of 1910. To help smooth the way for negotiations with the United States, Mexico's President Carlos Salinas de Gortari had nullified certain provisions of what was probably the only section of the Mexican constitution important to the indigenous people of Chiapas, Article 27. The provision, favorably amended in 1917, declared certain ejido, or community-held lands, in Chiapas to be free from the threat of future sale or exploitation, stating that the land would remain the property of the indigenous Indians who lived on it.

    But, as wryly noted by one observer, the Mexican constitution may as well be written in pencil -- every president in recent Mexican history has changed the constitution for his own purposes, and Article 27 has seen no less than 15 changes to its amendments. For Salinas, yanking the community lands out from under the feet of the peasants while simultaneously de-monopolizing the state oil and gas companies meant being able to make more money from the concession of resource-rich land to the foreign investors that NAFTA promised.

    Eventually, that money would be partly used to pay off some $51 billion in U.S. currency, loaned by the United States and various supranational banks to bail out the sinking peso. What that meant to Washington was that oil rights in Mexico were all but purchased by the United States for the price of the bailout package. So by threatening American corporations' access to resource-rich Chiapas in order to defend their land, Marcos and his small group of Zapatistas declared war not only on Mexico, but on the board rooms of multi-national oil giants and the Treasury Department of the United States.

    And the U.S. responded as it always does to acts of war -- with military force. But this time, rather than sending in Marines to restore order, the Clinton administration opted to supply the Mexican government with arms, under the guise of the drug war, to help eradicate the Zapatista threat from its newly acquired oil fields.

    History of conflict

    The Zapatista uprising should have caught no one off guard.

    There had been reports of guerrilla training activity in the Lacandon jungle of southern Mexico for years. But rumors of guerrillas in oil-rich lands that will eventually be offered to the highest bidder traditionally aren't good for business, so it became the policy of Mexican officials, presumably with an eye toward NAFTA negotiations already underway, to deny any troubles.The truth is that an insurgent uprising was all but inevitable in Chiapas. According to a 1994 report by Human Rights Watch/Americas, "Chiapas has the worst socio-economic conditions in Mexico, a long history of agrarian conflict, and a record for injustice and human rights violations unparalleled anywhere else in the country."

    Even though the hydroelectric industry in Chiapas provides Mexico with 60 percent of its electricity and the state's economy is dominated by the exploitation of natural resources, especially oil, Chiapas is the poorest state in Mexico with a huge income gap between the rich mixed-race landowner minority and the indigenous Indian peasant-class majority. Class tensions have been a permanent threat to peace in Chiapas. In fact, many large, privately owned cattle ranches were created by violent and illegal invasions of ejido lands by private armies funded by wealthy landowners. HRW/Americas has recorded numerous incidents in the early 1990s where these powerful landowners' thugs, backed by the state police, swarmed into peasant villages before dawn, hustled everyone into trucks and literally drove them off the land. Anyone resisting would be beaten or arrested, and some detainees reported being tortured in custody.

    No legal action against these breaches of Article 27 regarding ejido lands was ever taken by the government because the ranchers and other influence-holders generally threw their weight behind the PRI (Institutional Revolution Party, Mexico's ruling political party) during elections, delivering landslide results.

    But when President Salinas formally nullified the community land provisions of Article 27 in order to remove any legal barriers to the foreign acquisition of ejidoland in preparation for NAFTA, it represented the final straw dropped upon the backs of the peasants.

    Faced with the privatization of their communal lands (as well as other unpleasant aspects of NAFTA, such as the government's elimination of corn crop subsidies in favor of purchasing cheaper American-grown corn), the peasants decided they would rather die fighting for their rights than have their government sell their land out from under them to foreign interests.

    The 12-day war

    Conventional military warfare between the Mexican Army and the Zapatistas that began on New Year's Day 1994 lasted only 12 days. Rebels briefly occupied the cities of San Cristobal de Las Casas, Ocosingo, Altamirano and Las Margaritas, county seats of Chiapas, as well as several other smaller towns. Though the rebels were ill-equipped at best, fighting with scrounged M-1 carbines, single-shot hunting rifles, machetes and pitchforks, the complete takeover of the towns and their police forces was briefly successful -- the Mexican Army based nearby was caught off guard by the rebellion.But the under-equipped Zapatistas were no match for the military firepower and air support the United States had donated to Mexico for the purpose of drug interdiction. U.S. Bell helicopters, which, according to the Forecast International/DMS Market Intelligence Report for 1995, make up the majority of the Mexican military's helicopter fleet, swept into the conflict zone and extolled heavy casualties on the Zapatista forces.

    The American choppers were originally donated to Mexico specifically for use in anti-drug campaigns, but the White House apparently wasn't displeased by the extracurricular use of its donated equipment: The Clinton administration declared on Jan. 26 that the choppers were not misused in spite of the fact that the revolution obviously had nothing to do with drugs.

    According to officially released records, 145 rebels, soldiers, police officers and civilians died in the two weeks of combat, but the figure likely exceeds 200, according to HRW/Americas, due to unrecorded interment of dead civilians by government forces.

    Mexican government reaction to the uprising was predictably brutal. In the two weeks of initial fighting, HRW/Americas reported human rights violations by the Mexican army that include "summary executions of wounded or captured combatants and of civilians in detention; widespread arbitrary arrest, prolonged incommunicado detention and torture; indiscriminate attacks on civilian targets and violations of medical neutrality."

    Official Mexican government reaction to the revolution followed past patterns of denial. And the White House decided to quietly help its new trade partner deal with the uprising, ignoring reports of seemingly endemic incidences of torture and murder in the interests of the success of international trade.

    Weapons sales

    The U.S. defends its military sales and donations to Mexico by reminding protesters of its commitment to battle drug lords in Latin America. But it's becoming obvious that not all U.S. military aid is being used for drug interdiction.American videographer Kerry Appel, for instance, recently traveled to Chiapas to document the revolution, and his tapes clearly show American General HMMWV armored cars (the military version of a Hummer) carrying Mexican soldiers through the Lacandon mud to suspected Zapatista strongholds.

    And, according to the June 1995 Forecast International/DMS Market Intelligence Report, the "Chiapas crisis has spurred [air]lift procurement, with numbers of (American) UH-60 Blackhawk (combat helicopters) suddenly appearing in late 1994 and early 1995." The report also noted that due to the Chiapas uprising, the Mexican Air Force is seeking to beef up its fleet with additional transports, helicopters and light strike aircraft.

    "The U.S. is the likely source of these type of aircraft," the report states, "with the Mexicans known to be interested in further C-130 transport and Bell 212 helicopter procurements."

    In 1994, the year of the revolution, U.S. foreign military sales orders from Mexico more than doubled over the year before from $6 million to $15 million. Perhaps more telling, however, are the commercial export licenses approved by the U.S. State Department to private U.S. arms manufacturers. In 1993, $9 million worth of military arms was approved for export to Mexico -- after the revolt in 1994, the figure sprang to $95 million. By shifting the source of the military aid from the federal government to the private sector, the Clinton administration was able to quietly increase its funding of the government's anti-Zapatista operations. The U.S. also set aside $500,000 in 1994 for "professional military education and technical training" of Mexican military officials.

    Bubbling crude

    The success of NAFTA to the Clinton administration is no small deal. What makes NAFTA so important are other changes to Article 27 that make it possible, for the first time since 1938, for foreign investors to claim a chunk of the lucrative oil and natural gas resources in Mexico. As a provision of Mexico's entrance into NAFTA, North American oil companies outside of Mexico had to be allowed access to Mexican contracts and concessions.Oil is big in Chiapas. In fact, Cecilia Rodriguez, a U.S. spokeswoman for the Zapatistas based in El Paso, Texas, estimates that the oil potential of Chiapas and Guatemala combined could exceed that of Saudi Arabia. Oil experts agree that Mexico's proven oil reserves are the second largest in the Western Hemisphere behind Venezuela and the potential for untapped oil reserves is high. Indeed, a preliminary survey map of the oil field potential of Chiapas shows at least eight important unexplored oil sites -- all seated squarely on ejido land under Zapatista control.

    The importance of settling the rebellion in Chiapas so that drilling could begin became more immediate after the November 1994 election. The new president, Ernesto Zedillo Ponce de Leon, soon discovered that Salinas tinkered with more than the constitution; he apparently also tinkered with the economy. A mere month after being sworn in, Zedillo was faced with the worse financial crisis in his country's history. Suddenly, the untapped oil in Chiapas became the potential cure for Mexico's failing economy and the Zapatistas standing in the way suddenly became even more of a threat.

    In February 1995, the White House deepened its commitment to the Mexican government by lashing together a $20 billion economic aid package to bail out the peso. The loan included cash from the U.S. Treasury Department; cash that is collateralized by the proceeds from Mexican crude oil, oil products and petrochemical product exports. In accepting the bailout package, Mexico agreed to further its efforts to "undertake privatization and (foreign) concession operations that are estimated to yield US $12-14 billion in the next three years," according to the terms of the International Monetary Fund, which coughed up $18 billion for the bailout.

    The implied importance of quickly ending the Zapatista revolt was not lost on Mexico's newly elected president, who, within a week of accepting the bailout deal, launched a harsh offensive against the Indians which again had human rights groups clamoring in horror.

    Several arbitrary arrests were conducted throughout Chiapas by state forces and those detained reported being tortured by, among other things, electric shock, semi-asphyxiation with plastic bags and submersion in water barrels. Amnesty International also received reports of several extra-judicial executions. A cease-fire was restored after a week of battle, but house-to-house raids deep in the jungle reportedly continued for several more weeks.

    After more than two years of bloodshed, government violations of human rights and failed attempts at peace talks, the Zapatistas and the Mexican government have finally agreed on a negotiations schedule. Among the topics on the table for discussion are sweeping reforms to the electoral processes, extensive public sector spending reforms and, of course, the constitutional restoration of the sovereignty of oil-rich ejido lands. At this point in the talks the Mexican government has come out looking good by agreeing to the initial peace provisions dealing with indigenous rights. But many observers, including filmmaker Appel, think there is more bloodshed around the corner.

    The next topic up for discussion -- the one that the two sides are in most disagreement upon -- is the constitutional reforms. And Mexico is preparing for the talks by clearing the entire region of observers and witnesses.

    Joint exercise

    Appel predicts that the future tactics of the Mexican government will be the same as in the past. However, this time he speculates that the government will attribute some act of terrorism to the Zapatistas so the army will be justified in launching an offensive against the Indians.And so, it appears the U.S. will continue to ignore what Amnesty International terms "gross violations of human rights reported in Chiapas since the beginning of the January 1994 conflict." In fact, nothing seems to be impeding the growing relationship between the armies of Mexico and the U.S. As recently as this past April, Defense Secretary William Perry met with his Mexican counterpart to "explore ways in which our militaries could cooperate better." The two agreed that the U.S. would begin delivery of 50 Huey helicopters sometime this summer.

    This time however, the governments seem to have learned from past mistakes -- no drug-campaign specific conditions on how they can be used are attached to the deliveries.


    This article was presented by the Center for the Advancement of Journalism and
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    Drug War - Bush Aid Package for Mexico to Stop Drugs

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    WASHINGTON (AP) — President Bush asked Congress on Monday to approve $500 million to help Mexico fight drug trafficking, the first installment of a $1.4 billion aid package for the United States' southern neighbor.

    The money was included in a supplemental budget request for the fiscal year that began this month that is primarily aimed at adding funds for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. The measure included several unrelated items, such as $724 million for the U.N. peacekeeping mission in Sudan's Darfur region and $106 million to make good on U.S. promises in a nuclear deal with North Korea.

    "All of these are urgent priorities of the United States, and the Congress should fund them without delay," Bush said.

    The White House took extra care to shine a spotlight on Mexico's portion of the request, with White House press secretary Dana Perino issuing a separate statement about it and Bush calling Mexican President Felipe Calderon to let him know about the money.

    Perino said Calderon's "decisive actions" already have begun to bear fruit in the United States, by disrupting drug trafficker supply lines and contributing to cocaine and methamphetamine supply shortages.

    "The United States will do all it can to support Mexico's efforts to break the power and impunity of drug organizations and to strengthen Mexico's capabilities to deal with these common threats," she said.

    U.S. Ambassador to Mexico Tony Garza called the initiative "a fundamental shift" and "the single most aggressive undertaking ever to combat Mexican drug cartels and the associated violence they pose to citizens in both the U.S. and Mexico."

    In a statement, Garza praised Mexican President Felipe Calderon for taking "a courageous stand against the transnational criminals currently threatening Mexico," and noted that "violence related to narco-trafficking has rapidly spread in Mexico."

    "The most important action we can take is to partner with President Calderon in his government's struggle against spiraling violence," Garza said.

    Bush also asked for $50 million to fight drug trafficking in Central America.

    Mexico's Foreign Relations Department is calling the aid plan the "Merida Initiative," after the Mexican city where both leaders discussed the details earlier this year.

    Opponents have a different label, however: "Plan Mexico," a snide reference to the Plan Colombia military aid package that has failed to put much of a dent in Colombian cocaine production while raising fears locally about violations of national sovereignty.

    Unlike the Colombia initiative, though, the Mexico proposal does not involve putting U.S. troops on Mexican soil.

    Instead, it would pay for such things as helicopters and surveillance aircraft, "nonintrusive inspection equipment" and drug-sniffing dogs for Mexican customs, the new federal police and the Mexican military. Other aspects include technical advice and training aimed at cleaning up corrupt police forces and establishing witness-protection programs, the State Department said.

    Mexico's Foreign Relation Department said the initiative "will allow both countries to confront more efficiently the common threat of transnational organized crime."

    The plan was founded on the basis of "mutual confidence and respect for the sovereignty and jurisdiction of each country," the department added.

    Mexican Foreign Relations Secretary Patricia Espinosa brushed aside any suggestion that the United States wanted something in return for the aid, noting "we have a mature and respectful relationship."

    Her department stressed that the aid would not come in the form of money, but rather as equipment and training, and said Mexico expected the United States to step up its own efforts against money laundering and weapons trafficking.

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    Bush seeks $500 million for Mexico's drug war

    Bush seeks $500 million for Mexico's drug war - Houston Chronicle


    Another $50 million would go to Central America's efforts in the joint project

    By PATTY REINERT and DUDLEY ALTHAUS
    Copyright 2007 Houston Chronicle Washington Bureau


    WASHINGTON — President Bush asked Congress today for $550 million to help Mexico and Central America fight drug trafficking amid escalating violence, particularly on the Texas-Mexico border.

    The funding request, part of a two- to three-year package that would total about $1.4 billion, is included in a $46 billion proposal for additional funding for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

    "It delivers vital assistance for our partners in Mexico and Central America who are working to break up drug cartels, and fight organized crime, and stop human trafficking," Bush said at the White House, shortly after calling Mexican President Felipe Calderon.

    Mexico would receive the lion's share of the aid package, $500 million, and Central America would get $50 million, officials said.

    The aid package for Mexico, which officials have been negotiating since Bush met with Calderon in Merida, Mexico, last March, would include funds for additional Mexican military helicopters and other surveillance aircraft, drug-sniffing dogs and telecommunications equipment.

    It would also pay for training Mexican police and troops involved in intercepting drug shipments en route to the United States.

    The package does not call for additional American personnel working on the ground in Mexico, said Thomas Shannon, the State Department's top diplomat for the Western Hemisphere.

    He noted that Mexico already has invested $3 billion of its own to fight organized crime and drug trafficking and is making progress.

    Shannon said the aid package, dubbed the "Merida Initiative," comes "at a particular moment in which organized crime presents a real threat in Mexico and Central America and we have leadership in Mexico and Central America to fight that threat. The kind of cooperation we have been able to establish is historic."

    Working as partners with Mexico and Central America, the U.S. has started a dialogue that will reap long-term benefits, Shannon said, not just in reducing drug trafficking and the violence that accompanies it, but in creating a regional security strategy that also could keep terrorists from attacking the U.S. and its closest neighbors.

    "I know $550 million is a relatively small amount of money, but from our point of view, it is a really important initiative," he said.

    Rep. Gene Green, D-Houston, who recently returned from Mexico where he and other members of Congress met with their Mexican counterparts to discuss the plan, said the House Democratic leadership appears to support the spending.

    He noted that Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., asked him and other lawmakers to make the trip to Mexico.

    But Pelosi and others indicated it could be tough for Bush to get the overall funding package through Congress because support for the war in Iraq is at an all-time low and because Bush recently angered many Democrats when he vetoed funds for children's health insurance.

    In Mexico City, U.S. Ambassador Tony Garza called the plan "the single most most aggressive undertaking ever to combat Mexican drug cartels and the associated violence they pose to citizens in both the U.S. and Mexico."

    "Mexicans understand the stakes and realize that security is every bit as much a priority for them as it is for us," Garza said.

    Mexico produces marijuana, methamphetamines and heroin for the U.S. market, and the country has long served as the main trafficking route for South American cocaine bound for the U.S.

    Violence has spiraled in recent years amid turf battles between rival gangs, which are better armed than most Mexican police forces and have been able to win cooperation from officials and police through bribery or intimidation.

    Since taking office in December, Calderon has made the crackdown on drug traffickers a cornerstone of his administration. He has ordered some 20,000 soldiers and federal police to take up law enforcement roles in violence-plagued states and has extradited senior drug traffickers to the U.S. to stand trial.

    But Mexico's security situation has deteriorated despite Calderon's efforts, according to a report issued by the Austin-based Stratfor consulting firm last weed. It said the violence could spill over on the U.S. side of the international border.

    In recent weeks, the tempo has apparently picked up as Mexican forces captured nearly 15 tons of cocaine, including nearly 12 tons in the port city of Tampico — the largest drug bust in the country's history.

    "These seizures are cyclical and the greater part are made with information from the United States," said political analyst Jorge Chabat, who specializes in Mexican narcotics enforcement and national security issues. "That doesn't mean we will see such seizures in the coming years.

    "But it means that the Calderon government is determined to prosecute the drug war," Chabat said. "And that's going to help in the negotiations with the United States."

    Successive Mexican administrations through the past 20 years have frequently purged their anti-drug police forces and deployed the army at crucial times to take on drug traffickers. Scores of senior narcotics gangsters have been killed or jailed. Tons of narcotics have been seized.

    Yet the trade continues to flourish. A senior Mexican justice department official said over the weekend that U.S. proceeds from the drug trade pump some $10 billion a year annually into the Mexican economy, nearly half as much as the country's oil exports.

    Patty Reinert reported from Washington; Dudley Althaus from Mexico City
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    Bush seeks $500 million to help Mexico fight cartels

    http://www.startribune.com/10223/story/1501321.html



    The multi-year program would provide training and equipment and redefine the nations' security cooperation.

    By Pablo Bachelet, McClatchy News Services

    WASHINGTON - The Bush administration on Monday announced a $1.4 billion, multiyear initiative to help Mexico defeat powerful drug cartels whose turf wars have killed several thousand and led President Felipe Calderon to deploy his military.

    The program also is designed to redefine the way the neighbors cooperate on security issues, U.S. officials said.

    The White House said it wants Congress to immediately allocate $500 million for Mexico and $50 million for Central America. The request -- dubbed the Merida Initiative for the Mexican city where President Bush and Calderon fleshed out the plan in March -- was tucked into a $46 billion Iraq-Afghanistan supplemental spending bill offered Monday.

    Reaction in Congress was guarded, with members saying they were disposed to help Mexico but needed more information before committing to the initiative.

    The $500 million would be the initial installment of a two- or three-year program, officials said, and would be in addition to a large but unknown sum provided by Mexico.

    Mexico would get training, surveillance aircraft, Bell 412 helicopters to ferry Mexican security personnel, non-intrusive ion scanners to detect drugs, canine units and more secure communications technologies, among other materials.

    "The United States will do all it can to support Mexico's efforts to break the power and impunity of drug organizations," the White House said.

    Calderon has made tackling drug-fueled violence a priority, deploying troops to the struggle and continuing his predecessor's efforts to purge police forces of corrupt officers. Last year, more than 2,000 people died in drug-fueled violence.

    The Bush administration estimates that 90 percent of U.S. cocaine enters through Mexico. Mexicans have long complained that U.S. drug consumption finances much of the violence and corruption, and that traffickers obtain guns from the United States.

    The initiative adds a new dimension to the complex relationship between Mexico and the United States, which share a 2,000-mile border -- one of the busiest in the world. Nearly $1 billion worth of merchandise moves across the border each way every day, in addition to hundreds of thousands of legal and illegal crossings.

    U.S. officials declined to give details of the program or how they'll ensure that shared intelligence information doesn't end up in the hands of corrupt Mexican officials, who could pass it to the cartels. But they did say that their Mexican counterparts will be carefully vetted before receiving any aid.

    Bush telephoned Calderon before the White House announcement to inform him that he was making the request to Congress. Reports on the program have been around since July, but Monday's announcement made it official and confirmed the dollar amounts.


    Rock:
    Drug war !

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    Ron Paul..............Calls for End to Drug War



    Ron Paul Calls for End to Drug War - YouTube


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    Rock:
    US and the Mexican drug war

    LiveLeak.com - US and the mexican drug war
    Rock:
    Marijuana and the Drug War

    The drug war in the USA is complete BS. Those in power lump mary jane in with all the rest of the drugs on the market. The statistics in this piece came from official ONDCP sources. This is less than 3 minutes long, and is my ode to the herb and awe at the inefficiency of the war on drugs.

    LiveLeak.com - Marijuana and the Drug War
    Rock:
    Common Sense????

    Drug War an International Fiasco

    Drug War an International Fiasco - YouTube
    Rock:
    Child killings challenge the drug war


    Child killings challenge the drug war | The Detroit News | detroitnews.com
    Beelze-bush:
    Mountains of evidence. So what? The only war that's real is the one against the majority of people by a small group of global control freaks. The argument that: if drugs were legal, everybody would use them, is ludicrous. For obvious reasons. Wars drain economies and damages people. The drug war hurts a lot of people that basically weren't hurting anybody other than themselves. Some 15 years ago, A friend of mine belonged to an activist group holding sufficient evidence that the speakers of the house and senate here were the biggest drug cartel in the state. Of course, there wasn't a court in the state that would hear the case. Can you say racketeering? Oh, yeah.

    ObserveantNoServant:
    Think about it this is preparing and conditioning you for the NAU.....

    This is how they are going to desenseitize you having the US and Mexico Law Enforcement running joint "Operations" for fighting the drug war.....

    Once they have conditioned us to that then it will be MUCH MUCH easier to go-ahead and say they want combine the 2 forces already working hand in hand for the last however long they run the programs....

    Ontop of that we get to keep Team America World Police on the job.....and the Police/Prison Industrial Complex wrecking lives and raping and pilliaging just like the Military Idustrial Complex is Running Iraq....

    They will have so much cash they will have to move it with forklifts............Glad we already know how well they can keep track of forklift cash........ I think that 9 Billion in Cash to Iraq proved that.......

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    They have ALL been in on it. None was better than the other and political party didn't make any difference. They are globalists.
    But Mexico had it's hand out for the weapons that they didn't keep up with and that disappeared from the military for years. Now Mexico is all puffy that the evil US is arming the cartels. I think that the initial cadre of Zetas were trained at Ft Bragg under either Clinton of Bush and the arms and training were provided to soldiers of the Mexican government who bears the responsibility of it's citizens and military.
    Lately we have the ATF running guns to see where they turned up at murders to strengthen the anti gun agenda under the latest crop of politicians and to build up numbers to disarm the US population.
    The Emperor of Japan said that he would never invade this country because there was a gun behind every blade of grass.
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    If 90,000 is correct that is almost double the amount of dead during Vietnam yet surprising our media is very quite about all the women and children, how many were lost to the fast and furious fiasco, also if the people of Mexico were allowed to have weapons for protection would they have lost so many, yet once again the liberals are trying to remove our second amendment rights. Does anyone trust the ATF to monitor and regulate our firearms and should we trust the corrupt media to tell the truth on any subject.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Newmexican View Post
    They have ALL been in on it. None was better than the other and political party didn't make any difference. They are globalists.
    But Mexico had it's hand out for the weapons that they didn't keep up with and that disappeared from the military for years. Now Mexico is all puffy that the evil US is arming the cartels. I think that the initial cadre of Zetas were trained at Ft Bragg under either Clinton of Bush and the arms and training were provided to soldiers of the Mexican government who bears the responsibility of it's citizens and military.
    Lately we have the ATF ran guns to see where they turned up at murders to strengthen the anti gun agenda under the latest crop of politicians to build up numbers to disarm the US population.
    The Emperor of Japan said that he would never invade this country because there was a gun behind every blade of grass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldguy View Post
    . . . should we trust the corrupt media to tell the truth on any subject.
    Should we distrust this media report that says: 92,000 DEAD IN MEXICO’S WAR ON THE DRUG CARTELS ???
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnDoe2 View Post
    Should we drust this media report that says: 92,000 DEAD IN MEXICO’S WAR ON THE DRUG CARTELS ???
    Nope, note the beginning of my paragraph. Everything is suspect.
    (If 90,000 is correct)
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldguy View Post
    If 90,000 is correct that is almost double the amount of dead during Vietnam yet surprising our media is very quite about all the women and children, how many were lost to the fast and furious fiasco, also if the people of Mexico were allowed to have weapons for protection would they have lost so many, yet once again the liberals are trying to remove our second amendment rights. Does anyone trust the ATF to monitor and regulate our firearms and should we trust the corrupt media to tell the truth on any subject.
    Mexico is the perfect example that shows gun control and disarming a population puts them at the mercy of criminals and deny s them the right to defend themselves.
    http://www.alipac.us/f9/armed-vigila...3/#post1323637

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldguy View Post
    Nope, note the beginning of my paragraph. Everything is suspect.
    (If 90,000 is correct)
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