Thread: HUD moves to cancel 32,000 illegal aliens' public housing access

HUD moves to cancel illegal immigrants' public housing access

By Stephen Dinan - The Washington Times - Updated: 7:58 p.m. on Wednesday, April 17, 2019

The Trump administration is proposing a new rule to try to block some 32,000 illegal immigrant-led families from claiming public housing assistance, saying it’s unfair to hundreds of thousands of Americans who are stuck on waiting lists.

Housing and Urban Development notified Congress Wednesday of the new rule, kicking off a schedule of publication and notice and comment that could have the plan finalized later this summer.

The plan would scrap Clinton-era regulations that allowed illegal immigrants to sign up for assistance without having to disclose their status.

Under the new Trump rules, not only would the leaseholder using public housing have to be an eligible U.S. person, but the government would verify all applicants through the Systematic Alien Verification for Entitlements (SAVE) database, a federal system that’s used to weed illegal immigrants out of other welfare programs.

Those already getting HUD assistance would have to go through a new verification, though it would be over a period of time and wouldn’t all come at once.

“We’ve got our own people to house and need to take care of our citizens,” an administration official told The Washington Times. “Because of past loopholes in HUD guidance, illegal aliens were able to live in free public housing desperately needed by so many of our own citizens. As illegal aliens attempt to swarm our borders, we’re sending the message that you can’t live off of American welfare on the taxpayers’ dime.”

Illegal immigrants’ access to taxpayer-funded welfare and other benefit programs has long been controversial.

It was considered a non-starter for Democrats when they wrote Obamacare a decade ago, and they excluded illegal immigrants from the health law. But the party’s attitude has changed and now some Democrats are pushing to expand the 2010 law to include unauthorized migrants.

Polling, though, suggests Americans remain opposed to public benefits flowing to illegal immigrants, and President Trump has suggested it’s time to crack down on loopholes and interpretations that have allowed them to do so.
In the case of Section 8 housing assistance, there are competing laws that have created confusion.

In 2017 the HUD inspector general investigated illegal immigrants in New York who were using public housing under a special program for people with HIV or AIDS, and found that the government had never clearly stated whether housing was a federal public benefit subject to a 1996 ban for unauthorized migrants.

Further complicating matters, Clinton-era rules specifically allowed “mixed” immigration status families to gain housing benefits. As long as one person in the home is an eligible U.S. resident, a family can qualify. The eligible person doesn’t need to be the head of the household, and could even be a minor child.

The government created a system that allows people to apply for housing assistance as “non-contending,” meaning they decline to say whether they were legally in the country. Benefits are supposed to be adjusted on a pro-rated basis to account for those non-contenders.

The new HUD proposal is likely to draw opposition from immigrant-rights activists who say penalizing mixed-status families means hurting the legal residents in those families, who are often young children.

A similar argument is playing out in a debate over certain tax credits that, while claimed on behalf of citizen children, are paid to illegal immigrant parents.

GOP-led efforts to tighten those tax rules have met with stiff resistance.

Yet the administration argues the lengthy backlogs for housing assistance makes the new HUD proposal an obvious change.

Only one in four families that would qualify for housing assistance actually get the benefit right now, and most of those waiting for HUD help are likely poor seniors or people living with a disability.

The average waiting time nationally for housing assistance is 26 months. In places like Los Angeles it’s more than four years.

Singer and actress Cher seemed to take notice of the challenge in a tweet earlier this week.

“I understand helping struggling immigrants,” she said, “but my city (Los Angeles) isn’t taking care of its own.”

She pointed to 50,000 citizens she said were living on the streets, are below the poverty line and go hungry.

“If my state can’t take care of its own … how can it take care of more,” Cher wondered.

Mr. Trump approvingly retweeted Cher’s post.

“This proposal gets to the whole point Cher was making,” the administration official told The Times.

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Originally Posted by JohnDoe2

The plan would scrap Clinton-era regulations that allowed illegal immigrants to sign up for assistance without having to disclose their status.

Under the new Trump rules, not only would the leaseholder using public housing have to be an eligible U.S. person, but the government would verify all applicants through the Systematic Alien Verification for Entitlements (SAVE) database, a federal system that’s used to weed illegal immigrants out of other welfare programs.

This is a good start. Let's also focus on getting them out of the workplace.

Now move to CANCEL them from taxpayer funded schools and Medicare. Get them out!

Our schools and healthcare systems are overloaded and we cannot afford our own bills and there are long waiting times to see a Doctor.

Move to terminate them from our welfare and food stamp programs.

No illegal alien should collect ANY taxpayer funded benefits on behalf of a U.S. citizen, whether that citizen is a minor or otherwise.

Deport them WITH their minor children. Their countries laws state if they give birth on foreign soil, then that child IS a citizen of their country. Deport the whole family.

Go after banks and stop them from allowing illegal aliens to open bank accounts and get loans, car and home loans, and terminate that government bank program that assists them to send their money back over the border.

Another line they cut into: Illegals get free public housing as impoverished American

Ben Carson To Kick Illegal Immigrants Out Of HUD Housing, Will Give Aid To Poor Americans Instead

Ben Carson is one conservative liberals love to hate and they are going to really hate him now.
Carson, head of The Department of Housing and Urban Development, will enact a new rule that will stop illegal immigrants from scamming rules in place to stop them from accessing housing subsidies.
What most people do not know is that there are long waiting lists for subsidized housing and Trump wants those spots to go to Americans. Smart!
From The Washington Examiner: “We need to make certain our scarce public resources help those who are legally entitled to it,” department Secretary Ben Carson said in a statement. “Given the overwhelming demand for our programs, fairness requires that we devote ourselves to legal residents who have been waiting, some for many years, for access to affordable housing.”
The new rule would disallow illegal immigrants from living in houses that receive subsidies from the department regardless of whether they were the direct recipient or not. Previously, rules allowed illegal immigrants to benefit from subsides by living with relatives who were citizens.
“This proposal gets to the whole point Cher was making in her tweet that the President retweeted. We’ve got our own people to house and we need to take care of our citizens,” an official in the Trump administration told the Daily Caller.
“Because of past loopholes in HUD guidance, illegal aliens were able to live in free public housing desperately needed by so many of our own citizens. As illegal aliens attempt to swarm our borders, we’re sending the message that you can’t live off of American welfare on the taxpayers’ dime,” the official added.
The administration estimates about 32,000 households nationwide benefit from federal housing subsidies despite being headed by illegal immigrants.
From The Daily Caller: The Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) will be proposing a new rule that further prevents illegal immigrants from taking advantage of public housing assistance, The Daily Caller has learned.
Section 214 of the Housing and Community Development Act prevents non-citizens from obtaining financial housing assistance. However, the presence of so-called “mixed families” has complicated the enforcement of the rule. Illegal immigrants have previously been able to skirt the restrictions by living with family members who are U.S. citizens and receive subsidized housing through HUD.
HUD intends to roll out a proposal over the next few weeks that prohibits any illegal immigrant from residing in subsidized housing, even if they are not the direct recipient of the benefit. HUD currently estimates that tens of thousands of HUD-assisted households are headed by non-citizens.
Families who are caught gaming the system by allowing illegal immigrants to stay with them either have to comply with the new rule or they will be forced to move out of their residence.
Households will be screened through the Systematic Alien Verification for Entitlements, or “SAVE,” program.


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Send in I.C.E. to evict them back to their countries.

It should be a Felony, and they are committing FRAUD, for illegal aliens to collect ANY government taxpayer funded benefits.

All government employees who are awarding them OUR taxpayer funded benefits need to be fired!

That includes our schools and Medicaid programs.

No illegal alien shall collect ANY benefits on behalf of a U.S. citizen whether that citizen is a minor or otherwise!

Deport them and their minor children, those children ARE citizens of the country they came from no matter where they gave birth to them!

HUD intends to roll out a proposal over the next few weeks that prohibits any illegal immigrant from residing in subsidized housing, even if they are not the direct recipient of the benefit. HUD currently estimates that tens of thousands of HUD-assisted households are headed by non-citizens.
Families who are caught gaming the system by allowing illegal immigrants to stay with them either have to comply with the new rule or they will be forced to move out of their residence.
Households will be screened through the Systematic Alien Verification for Entitlements, or “SAVE,” program.
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Why wasn't this done 2 years ago? After all Trump did run a campaign on immigration issues.

Did they need another headline to give the appearance of doing "something" while the invasion marches on?

Will they receive one of those "strongly worded letters"?

They will be forced out of the residence---no mention of deportation---therefore we will see musical chairs---move out of that residence and move into another. It will look like that occasional ICE raid we see round em up---turn em loose.

A LOT OF THINGS SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE TWO YEARS AGO!

INCLUDING ENDING BIRTHRIGHT CITIZENSHIP AND GET IT TO THE SUPREME COURT!

Originally Posted by Beezer

A LOT OF THINGS SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE TWO YEARS AGO!

INCLUDING ENDING BIRTHRIGHT CITIZENSHIP AND GET IT TO THE SUPREME COURT!

Exactly! Until I see some real action, and especially the action of STOPPING these invaders before they enter, I will not be lulled to sleep by some headline grabbing crumbs to keep us lulled into a coma while the invasion continues.

Originally Posted by Airbornesapper07

Ben Carson To Kick Illegal Immigrants Out Of HUD Housing, Will Give Aid To Poor Americans Instead

Ben Carson is one conservative liberals love to hate and they are going to really hate him now.

Have we not learned anything since 2006?

Originally Posted by ALIPAC

Dont get too excited about the fence folks. It is a move designed to please you, but dont let it sway you.

Just got this in my email.

What do you think? Is this accurate?

Sir/Madam,

The Senate bill is for fencing for a mere 3%, or approximately 60 miles, of the nearly 2000 mile border!!!! And the cost is $4,000,000 per mile!!! That is right $4 million per mile!!! Now you just have to ask yourself a couple of questions here:

1. What good old boy game is being played so that some good old boy got a fat contract like that?? I could build another Great Wall for that much money!!
2. Why did the Mexican government have to approve the building of this fence?? If I am going to fence my acreage I sure as hell do not have to ask my neighbor to approve of it!!
3. Who pays for this monumental $2.4 billion boon dogal ?? The tax payers.
4. With the above in mind do you really consider this winning??

Thread here----https://www.alipac.us/f9/so-freakin-happy-39385/index3.html