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    Immigration Hearings Draw Complaints

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    Immigration Hearings Draw Complaints

    By SUZANNE GAMBOA
    The Associated Press
    Tuesday, July 18, 2006; 6:13 PM


    WASHINGTON -- After more than 50 congressional hearings on immigration, lawmakers complained Tuesday about the prospect of even more hearings in a House-Senate standoff over how to deter illegal immigrants.

    House Republicans have called for six more hearings this month _ and possibly more in August. The hearings began after the Senate passed a bipartisan immigration bill offering a chance at citizenship to millions of illegal immigrants.

    The latest round of hearings has been criticized as a political maneuver to delay immigration legislation and to help Republican candidates in an election year. After more than 50 immigration hearings since the 109th Congress began in February 2005, even a Republican joined the criticism Tuesday.

    "They ought to be called faux hearings," said Rep. Jeff Flake, R-Ariz. Flake sponsored an unsuccessful House bill that, like the Senate's measure, would offer some amnesty.

    Republican leaders made no attempt to hide their disdain for the Senate bill.

    A hearing Tuesday before the House Judiciary immigration subcommittee was entitled: "Should We Embrace the Senate's Grant of Amnesty to Millions of Illegal Aliens and Repeat the Mistakes of the Immigration and Control Act of 1986?"

    Three witnesses testifying on behalf of Republicans criticized the Senate bill and the lone witness for Democrats, Rep. Silvestre Reyes of Texas, the only member of Congress to serve in the Border Patrol, supported it.

    The House bill, passed in December 2005, does not include a path to citizenship, or what critics refer to as amnesty, and makes all illegal immigrants in the country subject to felony prosecution.

    Usually, the two chambers would go to conference committee to work out differences in the two bills. But House Republicans said they needed the hearings to learn more about the Senate bill and take the pulse of the American people on the issue. The majority of the hearings held since have been in Washington.

    Rep. John Hostettler, R-Indiana, said the current hearings don't duplicate the 23 his subcommittee already held. "We weren't addressing specific legislative provisions of a Senate bill," he said.

    But more of the hearing was spent trading partisan shots, than dissecting the Senate bill.

    "The GOP has become the Gab Only Party," Rep. Zoe Lofgren, D-Calif. said. "This is just a bunch of gas."

    Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee, D-Texas, said Republicans were holding "mock hearings," while Rep. Howard Berman, D-Calif., alleged the hearings amounted to a "con job on the American people."

    Hostettler criticized Reyes, who said he was missing an Intelligence Committee meeting to attend the hearing that he considered political.

    Rep. Louie Gohmert, R-Texas, refused to yield the floor to Jackson Lee, the ranking Democrat, and challenged Lofgren's assessment on who was spewing the most gas.
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    Rep. Jeff Flake, R-Ariz.
    This guy needs to go away. He's getting as bad as John McCain. What do those of you from Arizona think of him? All I've heard him do is complain about any thing that's not pro-illegal immigrant.

    Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee, D-Texas
    This lady needs to go away even faster then Flake. Have any of you folks checked out some of the pro-illegal immigrant amendments she's tried to pass through the House? She's attempted to push through a ton of them. How in the world did she ever get voted into Congress?

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    There is a lot of criticism about the House conducting these hearings. Some say it is a delay tactic since this is an election year. Others call it a bunch of 'gas.'
    But just maybe the House will accumulate a lot of constructive information from talking with real people out in the real world and return to DC with ammunition they need to debate their bill with the Senate bill.
    What do you think?
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    Republican leaders made no attempt to hide their disdain for the Senate bill.
    And neither has 80% of American Citizens.

    The people calling this a delay tactic are afraid of loosing control in the next election cycle. Some of those amnesty backers will be unseated in November.

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    I agree jean, Can't hurt to talk with your people.
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    But just maybe the House will accumulate a lot of constructive information from talking with real people out in the real world and return to DC with ammunition they need to debate their bill with the Senate bill.
    What do you think?
    are you kidding me? have you been watching these hearings? look, almost all of us here know more than 99.99999% of the public and perhaps that is why we are not learning anything new. but i must say, these hearings are a joke. they are not going to regular people. la raza states its case in a fair and just manner. you guys state your case in a fair and partial manner. and then the people decide. and if amnesty happens. great. if it doesn't, great. and face it, only we are paying attention.

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    la raza states its case in a fair and just manner.
    THE TROLL SPEAKS

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    Yes, and his DREAM is turning into a nightmare.
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    Inquisitor might be from CoSA, but you've got to admit he's right when he says most folks ain't payin' attention.

    I don't often agree with him, but when I do I'll admit it.

    There STILL won't be a bill passed. No Amnesty. No DREAM.

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    and if amnesty happens. great
    Amnesty in any form would most definitely not be great, not even good! The only thing amnesty will prove is that we are not a nation of laws and that there are two classes of people in this country, the elitest class and the rest of us. It's a shame that a country the size of the United States is being ruined by 15% of the population (elitest) for the sake of greed. Who are the elitest you ask, those are the folks that don't have to struggle from paycheck to paycheck, worry about the price of gas, finance their childrens education, cut their own grass, drive the same vehicle until it's payed off, perform their own repairs on the home and vehicle to save money, send their kids to public schools, etc., etc. (I think you get the point). Oh, our senators and the business & corporations owners that own them are part of the elitest crowd.

    I'm tired of seeing the haves win all the time, isn't it about time the have nots won one?

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