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    Senior Member zeezil's Avatar
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    Illinois: Undocumented Aliens May Be Registering To Vote

    Posted: Thursday, 24 January 2008 9:27AM
    Undocumented Aliens May Be Registering To Vote

    GENEVA, Ill. (STNG) - It's a question many have asked: Is it possible for an illegal immigrant or a legal noncitizen to end up an illegally registered voter?

    It appears the answer is "yes."

    "It's a very difficult thing to handle," said Kane County Clerk Jack Cunningham, who is in charge of elections and overseeing voter registration. "We never single out any group. There has to be a presumption that they are citizens unless it's proven otherwise. We, at this level, don't have much control over the issue."

    According to a mail-in form provided on the clerk's Web site, voter registraton applicants must answer "yes" or "no" to the question: "Are you a citizen of the United States?" Applicants also are given the option to submit a driver's license number or Social Security number, but doing so is not required, according to the form. Either a photo identification or another document -- such as a utility bill or paycheck -- can be submitted, the form states.

    In Illinois, the counties hold authority over elections, and different counties handle the responsibility in different ways. For instance, some print their own registration documents, while others enter into contracts with outside companies for the forms.

    While it likely butts up against constitutional law to ask for proof of citizenship only from applicants who "appear" to be foreigners, requiring a more stringent process may be only slightly more feasible, Cunningham said.

    "You're also talking about staff and money," something he feels his office could use more of.

    Though it hasn't been a hot topic in Springfield, illegal immigrants and other noncitizens voting remains a concern, according to one local lawmaker.

    "It's absolutely possible, and it's a problem," said Illinois Sen. Michael Noland, D-Elgin. "I'm not sure how to combat that. I'm open to suggestions."

    Even though illegal immigrants and those with temporary visas could fall through cracks in the registration process, Noland said he doesn't believe it's the result of some nefarious effort to get folks to the polls illegally.

    One unexpected problem arose with Illinois' "motor voter" program, whereby some driver's license applicants accidentally were handed voter registration materials at the same time, Cunningham and Noland said.

    Immigrants with temporary visas are given temporary Social Security numbers, so some can drive legally, but none can vote legally. While documented noncitizens can obtain licenses legally, illegal immigrants cannot because a Social Security number must be provided, a spokeswoman from the Illinois Secretary of State's Office said.

    "They're not even attempting to do it," Noland said of noncitizens who end up on the county's voter rolls. "It's not like they made the attempt to become voters."

    Still, a "series of bills" is needed to add more statewide safeguards, Noland said.

    "There's got to be some strong indication that you are indeed a citizen," Noland said. "I don't have a problem with that."

    According to Cunningham, just because not every registrant is asked to show a passport, it doesn't mean his office isn't keeping an eye out for suspicious entries on the county's master list of registered voters.

    While errors can be made, Cunningham said he's not too concerned. But one thing is for sure, he said: it's a divisive issue.

    "I'm very concerned that everyone who's on our list is legal," Cunningham said. "I don't think in Kane County it's a particular problem at this point. We have groups that come in and say it is, and we have groups that say it isn't. It's a very difficult issue." ... te/1533959
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    Senior Member miguelina's Avatar
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    If illegals can't get licenses in Illinois, then require a valid license to be shown as ID at the polls. Cross check all names with Dept. of Citizenship/Naturalization.

    In NJ, you must submitt proof of citizenship to get a license, just saying so isn't enough. They DO have a database with naturalized citizens names, which they check before a license is given to you. ALL states should make this mandatory.

    I know of illegals residing in NJ attempting to vote saying they have just moved into the state in the last several months. They brag about it, which ticks me off to no end.
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    Senior Member sippy's Avatar
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    IA's registering to vote? SAY IT ISN'T SO!!! We all have known this for quite some time. I'm sure that's the only way Hitlery won Nevada.
    "Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting the same results is the definition of insanity. " Albert Einstein.

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    Senior Member posylady's Avatar
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    What do you expect when they have voters registration applications written in spanish. Come on they already knew this. Heck I knew this. Big surprise.

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    Senior Member ourcountrynottheirs's Avatar
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    Isn't that nice for the OBL's
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    Senior Member crazybird's Avatar
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    Illinois knows darn well illegals are voting. They found fraud with the last election once it was over but they never pressed the issue or took anything to court.
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