Joe Biden Bans Officials from Using Horses to Secure the Border

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09-23-2021, 02:43 PM
Scott-in-FL

Joe Biden Bans Officials from Using Horses to Secure the Border

Joe Biden Bans Officials from Using Horses to Secure the Border

by CHARLIE SPIERING 23 Sep 2021

President Joe Biden will ban officials from using horses while securing the border, days after controversial photographs emerged of agents on horses confronting Haitian migrants the White House confirmed Thursday.

“[W]e will no longer be using horses in Del Rio,” White House press secretary Jen Psaki said during the daily press briefing with reporters.
Psaki cited the ban as proof that the president was upset by the images, after members of Congress and activists voiced their outrage that these tactics were happening during Biden’s presidency.

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United States Border Patrol agents on horseback tries to stop Haitian migrants from entering an encampment on the banks of the Rio Grande near the Acuna Del Rio International Bridge in Del Rio, Texas on September 19, 2021. (PAUL RATJE/AFP via Getty Images).

Psaki defended Biden for failing to publicly condemn the images.

“His actions make clear how horrible and horrific he thinks these things are,” she said.

Rep. Maxine Waters (D-CA) called the incident “worse than slavery.”

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(PAUL RATJE/AFP via Getty Images).

“I’m pissed,” she said during a press conference Wednesday. “And I’m not just unhappy with the cowboys who were running down Haitians and using their reins to whip them. I’m unhappy with the administration. We are following the Trump policy.”

“Cracking a ****ing whip on Haitians fleeing hardship shows you that this system simply can’t be reformed,” Rep. Rashida Tlaib (D-MI) wrote on social media.

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Rashida Tlaib
@RashidaTlaib

This is so sick and @CBP will continue to commit human rights abuses if we don't stop it now.Cracking a ****ing whip on Haitians fleeing hardship shows you that this system simply can't be reformed. @OversightDems + @HouseJudiciary should hold hearings immediately + act.

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Ryan Devereaux
@rdevro

Border Patrol agents on horseback cracking whips and charging into crowds of Haitian asylum seekers in Texas, shouting at them to go back to Mexico — strong reporting from @psskow on the situation in Del Rio/Ciudad Acuña

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2:23 PM · Sep 20, 2021

Biden’s Homeland Security (DHS) Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas pushed back on the claim that agents were using whips on people and that the images captured the long separated reins used to control their horses.

He later said he was “horrified” by the images and said the incident was under investigation.

Activists compared the border agents to slave hunters.

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NAACP
@NAACP

These images although centuries apart still seem to represent the worst of America’s capacity for humanity. @Potus if the plan is to #BuildBackBetter step 1 must be tearing down a foundation of oppressive practices.

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5:49 PM · Sep 21, 2021

Vice President Kamala Harris voiced her outrage at the photos on Tuesday calling for an investigation.

“I fully support what is happening right now, which is a thorough investigation into exactly what is going on there,” she said. “But human beings should never be treated that way. I’m deeply troubled about it.”

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09-23-2021, 02:49 PM
Scott-in-FL

In most cases "asylum seekers" equals opportunistic economic migrants. The people that truly deserve asylum end up waiting a long time on account of these other people.
09-23-2021, 03:02 PM
DigitalPatriot

I saw horses on the border but they were not used like this until the Haitians arrived, IMO.
09-23-2021, 03:05 PM
Beezer

Horses are used all across our border in the brush. And yes, they do round them up when they run off.
09-23-2021, 06:30 PM
GeorgiaPeach

Quote:

Originally Posted by DigitalPatriot

I saw horses on the border but they were not used like this until the Haitians arrived, IMO.

Horses are regularly used to patrol the border. We do not see it as regular enforcement on mainstream media. Millions are crossing our borders and horses are needed in certain areas.

The horses were not put into patrol because of Haitians. Just as using police dogs.

The border patrol is outnumbered. Haitians have attacked border patrol, ICE officials, airline pilots. They are hiding their identity, lying, and they threaten America in mass.

The 15,000 Haitians, from Brazil, Chile, and elsewhere gathering at the international bridge brought attention to the border crisis. The filth and trash and criminal activity has been reported with video.

Illegal aliens are met with armed border patrol,suvs, boats, atvs, helicopters, dogs, horses, other tools, living or otherwise. Haitians, like other foreign citizens attempt to cross our border every single day. Caravans in large numbers draw attention, too. No matter the sending countries, large masses of people get noticed.

Not one person should cross our border illegally. We have a right to protect our borders and country. We have a legal door.

Running from border patrol while doing something illegal can result in several outcomes just as in every day law enforcement.
09-23-2021, 07:37 PM
Scott-in-FL

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Remember this image from back in 2018. Trump was president and people were outraged, because they used teargas. Not that I see a lot of teargas and it's blowing away from the family. Of course, I don't know what is happening off camera.
09-23-2021, 08:09 PM
DigitalPatriot

Quote:

Originally Posted by GeorgiaPeach

Horses are regularly used to patrol the border. We do not see it as regular enforcement on mainstream media. Millions are crossing our borders and horses are needed in certain areas.

The horses were not put into patrol because of Haitians. Just as using police dogs.

The border patrol is outnumbered. Haitians have attacked border patrol, ICE officials, airline pilots. They are hiding their identity, lying, and they threaten America in mass.

The 15,000 Haitians, from Brazil, Chile, and elsewhere gathering at the international bridge brought attention to the border crisis. The filth and trash and criminal activity has been reported with video.

Illegal aliens are met with armed border patrol,suvs, boats, atvs, helicopters, dogs, horses, other tools, living or otherwise. Haitians, like other foreign citizens attempt to cross our border every single day. Caravans in large numbers draw attention, too. No matter the sending countries, large masses of people get noticed.

Not one person should cross our border illegally. We have a right to protect our borders and country. We have a legal door.

Running from border patrol while doing something illegal can result in several outcomes just as in every day law enforcement.

As stated before, I saw horses being used on the border with my own two eyes when I worked on a JTF. The way that they were used against Haitians is something that I have never seen.

No person should cross the border illegally. But when they do, are you in favor of whipping them with whips, for example?

The treatment of illegal immigrants has changed. That's the focus. No one is debating on if they should be allowed in.

That's were I believe the confusion is. Treating people like human beings while arresting them for their crime.
09-23-2021, 08:12 PM
DigitalPatriot

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott-in-FL

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cp...1b0e750a04.jpg

Remember this image from back in 2018. Trump was president and people were outraged, because they used teargas. Not that I see a lot of teargas and it's blowing away from the family. Of course, I don't know what is happening off camera.

Yes, I understand that outside of the picture things are not known. But if we could use Google to search all of the video and photos that day, how many "wranglers" would we find? I'm not asking for proof, I'm just asking for an educated guess.
09-23-2021, 08:21 PM
DigitalPatriot

Quote:

Originally Posted by GeorgiaPeach

Horses are regularly used to patrol the border. We do not see it as regular enforcement on mainstream media. Millions are crossing our borders and horses are needed in certain areas.

The horses were not put into patrol because of Haitians. Just as using police dogs.

The border patrol is outnumbered. Haitians have attacked border patrol, ICE officials, airline pilots. They are hiding their identity, lying, and they threaten America in mass.

The 15,000 Haitians, from Brazil, Chile, and elsewhere gathering at the international bridge brought attention to the border crisis. The filth and trash and criminal activity has been reported with video.

Illegal aliens are met with armed border patrol,suvs, boats, atvs, helicopters, dogs, horses, other tools, living or otherwise. Haitians, like other foreign citizens attempt to cross our border every single day. Caravans in large numbers draw attention, too. No matter the sending countries, large masses of people get noticed.

Not one person should cross our border illegally. We have a right to protect our borders and country. We have a legal door.

Running from border patrol while doing something illegal can result in several outcomes just as in every day law enforcement.

Scott presented a picture in this thread showing tear gas. Do you remember seeing those immigrants throw rocks before the tear gas came out? I ask because you mentioned Haitians attacking and no one else. Sometimes it's not what a person says, it's what they are not saying. The focus should be on the treatment and not if they should be allowed in.

Let me refresh your memory

https://youtu.be/gB7tw6kboYI
09-23-2021, 10:33 PM
Scott-in-FL

Quote:

Originally Posted by DigitalPatriot

Yes, I understand that outside of the picture things are not known. But if we could use Google to search all of the video and photos that day, how many "wranglers" would we find? I'm not asking for proof, I'm just asking for an educated guess.

Without watching the videos, I would say there were no wranglers present. I would also guess they use horses when appropriate, as in rough terrain to apprehend people. In my opinion, border patrol was probably doing the best job they could, given the situation and the stress level. I don't think they were whipping these people. Grabbing them and wrangling them, yes. That is their job.

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At first glance of the picture, I did think of a slave being whipped. But that was at first glance. After I studied the picture and read some of the comments, it does look like a horses rein loosely flying in the air. This picture is probably not the first time illegal aliens of any race were apprehended in this manor.

Whipping people is wrong. Is using a horse to round them up wrong, when they are misbehaving? I don't think border control was being racist. That's my opinion.

On the other hand, my guess is that Joe Biden is secretly racist.
09-23-2021, 11:28 PM
GeorgiaPeach

(Video from FOX News At link)

Ryan James Girdusky Retweeted

Bill Melugin

@BillFOXLA

The narrative that mounted Border Patrol agents were whipping migrants is false. They do not have whips. They have split reins to control the horse. They are long & have slack, & flop around while riding. They sometimes spin them like a propeller to signal horse to move forward.

https://mobile.twitter.com/BillFOXLA...61733037133825
09-23-2021, 11:38 PM
DigitalPatriot

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott-in-FL

Without watching the videos, I would say there were no wranglers present. I would also guess they use horses when appropriate, as in rough terrain to apprehend people. In my opinion, border patrol was probably doing the best job they could, given the situation and the stress level. I don't think they were whipping these people. Grabbing them and wrangling them, yes. That is their job.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E_1yQBIV...jpg&name=small

At first glance of the picture, I did think of a slave being whipped. But that was at first glance. After I studied the picture and read some of the comments, it does look like a horses rein loosely flying in the air. This picture is probably not the first time illegal aliens of any race were apprehended in this manor.

Whipping people is wrong. Is using a horse to round them up wrong, when they are misbehaving? I don't think border control was being racist. That's my opinion.

On the other hand, my guess is that Joe Biden is secretly racist.

I don't believe everything I read in the media, but I didn't just dream up the whippings.

Scott, I don't believe we have talked before. Thanks for the rational convo.

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09-23-2021, 11:43 PM
DigitalPatriot

Quote:

Originally Posted by GeorgiaPeach

(Video from FOX News At link)

Ryan James Girdusky Retweeted

Bill Melugin

@BillFOXLA

The narrative that mounted Border Patrol agents were whipping migrants is false. They do not have whips. They have split reins to control the horse. They are long & have slack, & flop around while riding. They sometimes spin them like a propeller to signal horse to move forward.

https://mobile.twitter.com/BillFOXLA...61733037133825

I wasn't on the border so, I cannot say anything for sure. Other media, aside from Fox are reporting something very different.

Fox hosts Tucker Carlson. That's all the proof I need concerning their position, IMHO.
09-24-2021, 01:09 AM
GeorgiaPeach

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Brandon Darby

@brandondarby

Let me help you be more accurate. First photo appears to show Border Patrol using “whip-like cord” on migrant. Second photo of same event shows it’s just the horse reins slinging around and agent is not whipping migrant.

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11:03 AM · Sep 21, 2021·Twitter for iPhone
09-24-2021, 01:18 AM
DigitalPatriot

Quote:

Originally Posted by GeorgiaPeach

Conversation

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Brandon Darby

@brandondarby

Let me help you be more accurate. First photo appears to show Border Patrol using “whip-like cord” on migrant. Second photo of same event shows it’s just the horse reins slinging around and agent is not whipping migrant.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E_0VQfsV...jpg&name=small

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11:03 AM · Sep 21, 2021·Twitter for iPhone

I'm after the truth.

In this age of mass information I have to vet the source to see their character. This author is an agent of Brietbart. His character is of someone that I wouldn't automatically give the benefit of the doubt. He could be telling the truth but I will have to research and see it from a source that I can agree has better character. A broken clock is right twice a day.
09-24-2021, 07:29 AM
Beezer

Every one of these damn illegal aliens need to be met with armed military, tanks, and jeeps patrolling that border!

They need to be handcuffed and loaded on ships back home.

Every UAC currently in this country needs to be immediately handed over to their Embassy or Consulate to process and fly back at their expense! We are not the daycare center for the worlds unwanted offspring. This is disgusting! They are their presidents responsibility.

We need to cut off ALL visas and foreign aid to the countries they are coming from. Not one damn dime!

We need THE WALL with gun turrets to fire off warning shots and sonic booms with sirens blasting if they get near the wall.

This is out of control. This is an invasion. This is war. This is destroying our peace, our safety, our prosperity. This is destroying our neighborhoods, our schools, our healthcare system. This is bankrupting us.

We have millions of illegal aliens and non-citizens in our courts, jails, prisons, and we have to provide lawyers for this! This is costing us billions of dollars!

We have a right to stop ALL immigration in it's tracks. We should not be forced to pay for this out of our wallets!

We have a right to have Special Forces go into every State to round them up, process them, and expel them back home!

We have over 40 million illegal aliens and visa overstays to remove.

We need to end birthright citizenship. They were never U.S. citizens. Another scam by the Democrats who started issuing them birth certificates in the 60s.

STOP OUR GOVERNMENT DUMPING ENTIRE CITIES OF FOREIGN CITIZENS ON OUR BACKS!