Thread: List claims to expose illegal immigrants in Utah

List claims to expose illegal immigrants in Utah
Reported by: Brent Hunsaker
Last Update: 10:33 am

SALT LAKE CITY (ABC 4 News) - A mailing claims to expose more 1,300 people living in Utah as illegal immigrants and demands their deportation. The list was sent anonymously to politicians, law enforcement and the news media. It not only contains names, but also birthdays, addresses, phone numbers and in a few cases, social security numbers.

The list includes both adults and children and even notes that a handful of women are pregnant. The letter that accompanied the list comments, "some of the women on the list are pregnant at this time and steps should be taken for immediate deportation."

The letter is from a group that calls itself "Concerned Citizens of the United States" but has no return address and no contact information. In fact, there is nothing in the letter or on the envelope that would further identify who is behind CCUS.

The letter begins, "We are enclosing a list of individuals who we strongly believe are in this county illegally." But it does not say why the group believes they are here illegally. Tony Yapias, a voice of the Latino community who also served under Governors Leavitt and Walker, told ABC 4 News, "Molina, Rodriguez, Lauro, Ramirez, Villanueva, Lopez, Bernal. That's racial profiling. What did they do? They went by the surnames."

Salt Lake County Sheriff Jim Winder was one of those who received the list. He said other than the Hispanic surnames, he also found nothing in the list that comes close to substantiating the claim. ""These are individuals who have no ability to defend themselves from the accusation," said Sheriff Winder. "We live in a country of laws. I, for one, would not want to be branded with something without some sort of due process and that is what this seems to be."

A spokeswoman for Salt Lake City Police Chief Chris Burbank confirms that the list also showed up Monday in his mail box. But she said Chief Burbank was out of town this week and would not be available to comment.

The letter was originally sent to "Customs and Immigration" on April 4, 2010. A spokeswoman for Immigration and Customs Enforcement, a part of the US Department of Homeland Security, confirmed receipt of the list "a couple months back" but would not say if ICE had taken any action on it. Other law enforcement sources tell ABC 4 News that at most, ICE agents would check the list against existing "wants and warrants" and follow up only if they found a match.

Such a response may not have been good enough for CCUS which has now sent the list to a wider group of Utah officials as well as newspaper, radio and television stations.

Yapias said the group may claim to be non-violent, but he doesn't believe it. "To me, they're terrorists," He said. "They have just terrorized 12-hundred families."

Yapias believes the detailed information could only have come from a confidential government database. "It seems to me that it's from someone in state government that has access to all types of information."

Sheriff Winder said he will have his investigators look into that allegation. If the information did come from a government database, it may well have violated state privacy laws.

"These folks, I'm sure, are defenders of the constitution. We all are defenders of the constitution," explained Sheriff Winder. "The constitution says innocent until proven guilty."

ABC 4 extends an invitation to whoever is behind the list to come out of hiding and to explain the origin of the list.

http://www.abc4.com/content/news/top%20 ... e21UQ.cspx

I hope there is followup on this list by I.C.E.

Anyone working for I.C.E., or anyone else, who has a list like this needs to forward it to the media, politicians, ALIPAC, etc.

But be careful to cover your tracks.

I wish someone in Utah could get their hands on this list and post it here.

Wow that's deep!!!!!!!!

The person in question doesn't just HAVE to work for the state. They could work for a health insurance company or something. Unless he means 'state' as in 'welfare' . . . in which case, yeah, I can see that.

I wonder what the followup will be, other than just whining about racism and terrorism and all that . . .

OH and I just had a thought!

Since this 'voice of the Latino community' said that this informaton came from the state as a STATEMENT, I wonder if he would have been insinuating that this was from some sort of welfare database where all of this type of information would be kept . . . in which case HE would be the one that is racial profiling.

Hmmmm?

LOL--okay, I'm making light and I shouldn't be

Salt Lake County Sheriff Jim Winder was one of those who received the list. He said other than the Hispanic surnames, he also found nothing in the list that comes close to substantiating the claim. ""These are individuals who have no ability to defend themselves from the accusation," said Sheriff Winder.

Of course they can defend themselves.
I.C.E. can knock on their doors and they can show them their immigration documents.
Oh, wait. They don't have any? Oh, well. We know who is illegal now.

Originally Posted by JohnDoe2

Salt Lake County Sheriff Jim Winder was one of those who received the list. He said other than the Hispanic surnames, he also found nothing in the list that comes close to substantiating the claim. ""These are individuals who have no ability to defend themselves from the accusation," said Sheriff Winder.

Of course they can defend themselves.
I.C.E. can knock on their doors and they can show them their immigration documents.
Oh, wait. They don't have any? Oh, well. We know who is illegal now.

Ditto that JD! Illegal invaders are given plenty of opportunity in this society to defend themselves! Why should this case be any different. Now go knock on some doors a, conduct an investigation and see if there's any merit to these allegations!

Whoever generated that list will likely end up fined, imprisoned or both.

See details below:

http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=11552722

IMO, there is growing concern that Utah will end up like Arizona, facing all the problems and monetary costs associated with illegal immigration. What American wants to witness his or her state become colonized ILLEGALLY just because illegal immigrants seem unable to make a living or enjoy certain privileges and benefits in their own countries?
http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/home/49849 ... e.html.csp

I think this whole list thing is bad taste but it reflects the frustration that most Utahns feel about illegal immigration. Generally , the scale of favoritism and allegiance will tip toward illegal immigrants and their needs rather than what Utah citizens want. The question is always the same: Why? Is it plain stupidity? Ignorance? Mistaking illegal immigrants for legal ones or simply condoning illegal activity as being OK? Or is all about money, sales tax revenues, additional pool of consumers to buy products and services and trade with Mexico?

People keep saying that Mexicans are starving. Seriously, when was the last time you saw an anorexic, starving Mexican who’s in the country illegally? Besides, Mexico is a rich country.

If illegals are looking for a better life for themselves and their children and they can’t do it legally, why not immigrate to South America instead ? Ah, they won't attempt that because they know that S. American countries have very strict immigration laws and Latin Americans would never put up with, tolerate, condone and welcome 15-20 million illegal aliens in their countries. Simple as that.

People keep saying that Mexicans are starving. Seriously, when was the last time you saw an anorexic, starving Mexican who’s in the country illegally? Besides, Mexico is a rich country.

The answer to that would be never...these people have more food than they know what to do with...