Thread: ACLU cautions city not to revive illegal-alien rental law

The ACLU is utterly disgusting and a threat to all Americas and our country!


http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/nort ... 9aclu.html

ACLU cautions city not to revive illegal-immigrant rental law

By J. Harry Jones
UNION-TRIBUNE STAFF WRITER

December 19, 2006

ESCONDIDO – The lawyers who successfully challenged the city's illegal-immigrant housing ordinance said recent statements by council members that legal obstacles can be overcome are unrealistic.

They also warned that should Escondido try to enact a similar ordinance, it would cost the city dearly.

David Blair-Loy, legal director of the American Civil Liberties Union of San Diego and Imperial Counties, said fundamental problems will exist with any ordinance designed to banish illegal immigrants.

Last week, after the Escondido council agreed to rescind an ordinance adopted in October, several council members said they hoped to create a better one in the future.

“If they even get close to this topic again, we will look at it with a microscope,” Blair-Loy said yesterday in response to the comments. “If we do have to sue them, it will be a lot more painful experience than it was the first time . . . they may not have such a quick, easy, painless exit from the case.”

Alan Mansfield, of the law firm Rosner & Mansfield, concurred. “There would be no discount and be no settlement this time,” he said.

The original ordinance, approved on a 3-2 vote, was intended to punish landlords who rented to illegal immigrants. Proponents said overcrowding and crime caused by illegal immigration – and the federal government's inability to do anything about it – were hurting the city.

The law was challenged in a federal lawsuit filed by the ACLU on behalf of two landlords, two illegal-immigrant renters and others.

A temporary restraining order was issued by U.S. District Judge John A. Houston, who pointed out numerous problems with the measure.

Last week, the council agreed to pay the ACLU and the various law firms who had filed the suit $90,000 to cover their legal fees and to block enforcement of the ordinance.

But the next day, four of the five current council members said they hoped to return with a new ordinance that could survive legal challenges.

“This is not the end,” Councilwoman Marie Waldron said. “This is the beginning of a fight. I'm looking at this as a glitch, a minor one at that, as we move ahead to strengthen the ordinance.”

Escondido City Attorney Jeffrey Epp said yesterday he was aware of statements by Waldron and other council members, but that there were no plans at present to recraft an ordinance. “We obviously haven't taken any collective action, and we didn't talk about any future actions in closed session,” Epp said.

Philip Tencer of the law firm Cooley Godward said the Escondido ordinance “will require something more substantial than a little tweak.”

Tencer said he hoped the city has learned its lesson. “To blame all the ills of a city on illegal aliens is ridiculous,” he said.

Blair-Loy said several basic constitutional issues would make it unlikely any ordinance resembling the one Escondido passed could be enforced.

First, he said, the issue of housing illegal immigrants is “purely for the federal government. . . . This is not an area the cities and states are allowed to get into.”

Second, he said, it's hard to imagine how a local ordinance could provide due-process rights. He said the Constitution guarantees people – landlords and tenants in this case – the right to contest allegations and to confront their accuser.

Federal fair-housing laws also are likely to be a big hurdle, he said. Just because an ordinance says it won't discriminate based on race or national origin, “In the real world we all know what they are talking about.”

Mansfield said, “If they think they can just amend it, they are sorely mistaken. They should not even be considering it.”

They also warned that should Escondido try to enact a similar ordinance, it would cost the city dearly.

This is clearly a threat. How can the city council accept such a threat without immediately reacting to it! How can they look themselves in the mirror with their heads held high? If I was them I'd be all over this like stink on an unbathed border crosser! Geez Escondido, I hope these threats give you more resolve to deal with the illegal immigration problem in your fair city.

Please, don't let the ACLU dictate how you run your city and care for your legal American citizens!

They also warned that should Escondido try to enact a similar ordinance, it would cost the city dearly.

I agree MW. It sure sounds like a threat to me.

“If they even get close to this topic again, we will look at it with a microscope,” Blair-Loy said yesterday in response to the comments. “If we do have to sue them, it will be a lot more painful experience than it was the first time . . . they may not have such a quick, easy, painless exit from the case.”

First of all...
(bite it)

And secondly, what are they the big bosses who make the threats??? NOT

I read this article in the paper this morning and thought 'Whoa, they are now threatening Escondido.'
The ACLU cares more for illegal aliens than American citizens, they have shown that over and over again.
Why is everything turning upside down and inside out???
American citizens need the backing of some huge never-run-out of money group!

The ACLU has never looked out for the welfare of Americans; they have hijacked the word.

Contact info for San Diego area
Ge em folks


ACLU of San Diego & Imperial Counties P.O. Box 87131 San Diego, CA 92138-7131 619/232-2121

Who are these people at the ACLU and why aren't they affected like we are?

Well that was my immediate thought too. As they say in the movies;

Is that a threat, are you making a threat, I think I just heard you make a threat...

And I think nothing or nobody would stop them. But is there anything we can do?!

Neese wrote:

Who are these people at the ACLU and why aren't they affected like we are?

Don't let them fool you Neese, so-called civil rights and liberties for all humans isn't their only interest. What does this tell you:

Last week, the council agreed to pay the ACLU and the various law firms who had filed the suit $90,000 to cover their legal fees and to block enforcement of the ordinance.

The ACLU lawyers are making money hand over fist. If the truth were to be known, these folks are no better than ambulance chasers. Each time a community attempts to fight the invasion by inacting ordinances, the ACLU starts drafting up the lawsuits for delivery to an activist judge. Money is a huge motivator for these folks. This may interest you:

Stop ACLU Lawyers From Receiving Taxpayer Money
By Digger

ACLU lawyers receive untold millions from taxpayers with every case they win. The current law allows them to collect fee's whenever they win a case. These fee's come from taxpayers. This actually encourages them to file as many suits they can in hopes that only a small percent actually pay off.

We need to stop this tactic and stop encouraging them to continue filing lawsuits over any pitiful little thing they can find. I'm not basing this off of religion, race or actual violations of civil liberties, but from the perspective that dangling a bag of gold in front of someone and telling them that if they do 10 sub-par cases and only win 1 they get the whole thing without incurring many actual risky costs to themselves.

This sort of incentive needs to stop.


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