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    Isn't diversity grand?
    Not when you're driving on the freeway and have to wonder what country you're in because of a blatant, in-your-face billboard
    I really don't have a good feeling about the direction this countries heading into, I really don't.
    I think people are waking up, thanks to ALIPAC, Dobbs, O'Reilly, MMP ..[at least it's not "taboo" to talk about illegal immigration at cocktail parties any longer] (referring to a recent article posted here).

    Polls show the general populace is mad as double L hockey sticks and I think the battle against this is gaining momentum every day!
    "This country has lost control of its borders. And no country can sustain that kind of position." .... Ronald Reagan

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    WATCHMAN wrote
    Polls show the general populace is mad as double L hockey sticks and I think the battle against this is gaining momentum every day!
    Total agreement here! It's only a matter of time before many of our sleepy Americans begin to show more courage. It's there, it's in our blood and they'll step up little by little.
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    Isn't diversity grand?
    Not when you're driving on the freeway and have to wonder what country you're in because of a blatant, in-your-face billboard
    I really don't have a good feeling about the direction this countries heading into, I really don't.
    I think people are waking up, thanks to ALIPAC, Dobbs, O'Reilly, MMP ..[at least it's not "taboo" to talk about illegal immigration at cocktail parties any longer] (referring to a recent article posted here).

    Polls show the general populace is mad as double L hockey sticks and I think the battle against this is gaining momentum every day!
    I hate to sound like a jerk, but it means nothing until these traitors start getting voted out of office. Most of these politicans don't care and they don't fear us. Why? Because despite their incompetence, arrogance and anti american hatred, they still keep getting voted back into office because of the ignorant cowardly sheep in this country. Yeah I said it. We have to blame ourselves for this too. Why? Because we allowed this to happen for far too long. Maybe we didn't keep voting these guys back in, but obviously the majority has. We didn't stand up to this nonsense until it got out of hand. I blame myself too. I hold myself equally accountable. We were all asleep at the wheel. Most of us still are (not on this board, but around the country they are). I keep hearing people ranting and raving about being angry at this politican and that politican. Well until they are ousted from power than that talk is cheap and means nothing to me. The only thing that matters is action. I don't see that from the so called angry voters.

    I hope we can turn this thing around. Maybe i'm just being a pessimist, but I think this thing is going to get worst before it possibly gets better, if it ever does. I could be wrong. I hope I am wrong. I don't pretend to know all things or what the future holds. I just have that gut feeling that this is going to end very badly for us. Again maybe I'm wrong, maybe enough good people will wake up and stand up with us to solve this problem and take our country back. I don't know.

    After what I went through yesterday I wonder if there really is no hope left.
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    dman 1200--do not blame yourself. Americans do not blame yourselves. We are VICTIMS of a plot, a conspiracy, that was so well concealed through lies, manipulation, false statements, misrepresentations....to HIDE the acts that were part of executing the plan. This real life story is so unbelievable that it seems right out of a "James Bond" flick with the weird guy in some underground fish tank plotting to take over the world.

    Sadly, the plan has been so well executed and is so far along, that the only way for a short-term solution is:

    1) the President IMMEDIATELY SEALS the borders, with federal troops--no one in, only OUT.

    2) NO MORE LEGISLATION that legalizes ONE MORE alien to be present in the United States. NOT ONE MORE ALIEN.

    OR:

    Impeach the President, Vice President...I think the next in line is Haskert. Investigate him NOW. Find out everything you can on this potential next President. Check his VOTES. Find out if HE IS A GLOBALIST...by his votes on Immigration.

    There is no way we could have known for sure the extent of this plan and how far it has developed.

    THANK GOD, some were on to the fact that "something" was wrong. 9 months ago I wrote a letter to the President, as a Republican and told him I would not vote and would not help him IF he didn't stop illegal immigration NOW. Then I found out that Kerry was going to give them ALL AMNESTY!! So hopped back on the Bush Ticket, because I support the War in Iraq and Kerry was worse on immigration. At that time, I didn't suspect a globalism plot to dissolve the United States.

    Learning that about 3 weeks ago quite by accident, sent me where I am now.

    We didn't do this. They did it. And THEY will be held accountable for every single WRONG MOVE they took against the People of the United States which means the People of the World. Without the United States, we may have peace as drones of commerce for Monsanto, but we will have no freedom or democracy because globalism theories of economics do not allow it.
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    Some of us knew it but not many would listen until the immediate problem hit their own doorsteps. And even now, attempting to explain the entire situation that's been afoot for at least 60 years is a mammouth chore.
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    Hi Judy

    It would be wonderful to have Pres Bush impeached. Lord knows he hasn't done his job. But who is going to do that? Pres Clinton molested women in the white house while serving as commander-in-chief and nothing happened to him. And who pray-tel in in line if Bush and the v.pres-what's-his-name gets thrown out.
    I think we are in deep doo-doo up to our ears, and the whole world is laughing at us.
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    True that this has been a well thought out plan and they count on our ignorance of not knowing to pull it off. I was ignorant to this myself until after 9-11 and then I started getting smart. Of course at first I thought it was only the Democrats causing all of this and I thought if only we can get a majority of Republicans in Congress/Senate and the presidency then we can finally get positive change in this country. I voted for Bush back in 2000 and when he won and the Republicans won the majority of Congress back in 2002, I cheered so loud, I thought finally were going to get these problems solved, our borders are finally going to get shut and our laws will be enforced. I thought the age of insanity was about to end. Then the Republicans and Bush stabbed me and the rest of America in the back. I was so heartbroken. I couldn't believe they did this to us. I couldn't believe I fell for this charade. I fell for the compassionate conservative bs from Bush. Now I know compassionate conservative really means globalism.

    Sure some people are finally waking up, but so many are still so ignorant and don't know what we know and if we told them would they believe us unless it hit them in the mouth like it did me? Will enough good people wake up to where we can stop this thing before it becomes unstoppable? Somehow we have to get these people to stop worshipping politicans like they are idols. I like what John and Ken said on the radio yesterday. They believe that there are no sacred cows when it comes to politicans. Absolutely. To me they are only as good as their last legislation and/or vote.

    People need to stop worshipping these politicans and thinking that they are the be all to end all of running this country because they are really no better then you and I. People have to remember that they work for us, not the other way around.

    This can be stopped, but that requires the whole middle class of America to wake up and stop being sheep. I don't know if it will happen. I can only hope it's not too late. I'm still waiting and hoping for that massive outcry to smack the politicans in the mouth. I hope it doesn't come in the form of a dirty nuke or too many illegals to deal with. That's is my greatest fears. Either we get nuked because of our immigration policies or the illegals will become the majority and start dictating policies toward the masses.
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    Hi Judy

    It would be wonderful to have Pres Bush impeached. Lord knows he hasn't done his job. But who is going to do that? Pres Clinton molested women in the white house while serving as commander-in-chief and nothing happened to him. And who pray-tel in in line if Bush and the v.pres-what's-his-name gets thrown out.
    I think we are in deep doo-doo up to our ears, and the whole world is laughing at us.
    I agree. I'd love to see Bush impeached, but it's never going to happen with a Republican majority in power. Especially not in the House of Lords (Senate). Most may distance themselves from him if his approval ratings continue to drop, but no Republican will have the stones to try to impeach him. I just don't see it happening.
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    DMAN wrote
    Of course at first I thought it was only the Democrats causing all of this and I thought if only we can get a majority of Republicans in Congress/Senate and the presidency then we can finally get positive change in this country
    Hey, better late Dman! this is not a "party" problem......it's an American problem. FYI, we voted for George because we knew Kerry's deep dark secrets and also that liberals WANT one world without borders. There's a slim chance that one can work more with the Repubs than w/most libs.

    However, Bush made it quite known that he was for amnesty {no matter what he chooses to call it} and that he would push it after the election. He was very clear about it so we knew what we were in for. That being said, now it's time to hold "CONGRESS" responsible. Bush can't do much of anything without the power of Congress. Personally, I don't worry too much about him but Congress on the other hand will be here long after he's gone.
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    HERE IS THE PROBLEM AND WHY BUSH IS THE KEY:

    Congress can "authorize" but can not "Order" government personnel to the borders.

    Under our Constitution, ONLY the President can do that.

    If he refuses as he's been doing, then we have to remove him from office and put someone in that chair who will.

    There are only two options:

    1) Bush seals up the borders NOW

    2) Bush is impeached.

    To commence an impeachment proceeding, House Members must do it.

    The Majority voted against the AgJobs Bill.

    The Majority in the Senate are with us.

    The Majority in the House....I don't know yet....I believe we missed their bills and are into Conference Comittee....where we'll see what they do on the Mikulski Bill.

    Chambliss from Georgia is bad news....trying a nation-wide effort to sell the Americans and "cry" for the farmers to get more aliens legalized which means they can not legally be deported.

    Farmers don't need the additional labor....that is a FARCE.

    Farmers need less labor today than they needed 20 years ago due to the declining amount of farmland acres every year....so Chambliss is a LIAR.

    No one wants to have to Impeach this President, but there is no other choice if he doesn't IMMEDIATELY DENOUNCE GLOBALISM which has nothing to do with the US selling products overseas. We've been doing that since the Founding Fathers. US Companies can sell to any country that wants our products.

    Globalism is a new name for Marxist Socialism but on a world wide basis using an elite oligarchy of multi-national companies to rule the world.
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