Thread: La Raza: Hispanic leaders eager to 'referee debate'

Hispanic leaders eager to 'referee debate'
Group calls for tolerance
Stephen Dinan (Contact)
Wednesday, July 16, 2008

SAN DIEGO — The president of the nation's largest Hispanic rights organization says the group will serve as referee for the immigration debate and back it up with what members expect will be record Hispanic voter turnout in November.

"It is time to take back the debate," Janet Murguia, president and CEO of the National Council of La Raza, said in closing NCLR's annual convention - an event that saw both presidential candidates come to appeal for Hispanic voter support and try to explain their immigration positions.

"Not everyone rejoices in our success. The vitriol and hate that surrounded the immigration debate this year was a stark reminder that our road is long and filled with obstacles," she said, adding that "hate speech is being parroted on the nightly news and by a number of politicians in both political parties."

In the run-up to the convention, Ms. Murguia announced letters had been sent to both presidential campaigns asking the candidates to denounce those in their own party who she said have injected "hate" into the issue by campaigning against illegal immigrants.

The letter already paid off when Republican presumptive presidential nominee Sen. John McCain, in his speech Monday, took up her challenge and condemned "those who used the debate on immigration last year, not to respectfully debate the issue, as most did, but to denigrate the contributions of Hispanics to our great country."

In an interview, Ms. Murguia said that was a welcome statement, though "I'm not sure how much effect it will have" on his party.

She said she is hoping Sen. Barack Obama, Mr. McCain's Democratic opponent, will also respond to the challenge. Mr. Obama spoke to the convention Sunday and, while he did condemn "the hateful rhetoric filling our airwaves," he did not take on politicians in either party who NCLR says are responsible for injecting that into campaigns.

In her closing speech, Ms. Murguia said they consider campaigning against illegal immigration the same as campaigning against immigrants and Hispanics in general.

"Make no mistake. This is about all of us," she said. "Most Latinos aren't immigrants. More than 80 percent of Hispanics in this country are U.S. citizens or legal residents. But, you can't tell that just by looking at us."

She listed several citizens and legal U.S. residents who have been detained or caught up in immigration raids.

Ms. Murguia said she hopes November's elections will be the coming of age for Hispanic voters: "I would hope that on Nov. 5, there would be a message sent that the Latino community has projected their demographics into political strength."

For the candidates, the tougher challenge here belonged to Mr. McCain, who has backed away from his support for a broad immigration bill; instead, he now says he must prove to voters the borders are secure before he can tackle legalization of illegal immigrants. He told Hispanic voters to look at his record and trust he will eventually get around to the legalization aspect.

"He's asking folks to trust him and to base it on his record of an independent voice," Ms. Murguia said. "I think Latino voters are going to be watching closely and assessing whether he would be able to fulfill that promise."

She said there remains a fundamental problem with splitting the broad approach apart and imposing security first.

"While we appreciate the need for border enforcement and secure borders, we do believe you can do that while having broader reforms for the immigration system," she said.
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It is time to take back the debate

Who took it from you ? is this more of her Hate Speech ? Think so

"Not everyone rejoices in our success. The vitriol and hate that surrounded the immigration debate this year was a stark reminder that our road is long and filled with obstacles," she said, adding that "hate speech is being parroted on the nightly news and by a number of politicians in both political parties."

No we ( I ) don't . This is America . Not Mexico . And you make everything as Racist and Censored as you can

If we can get Baldwin in office that will shut her up . Not Barr, his platform on immigration isn't that good .

Janet, all of your pandering drivel means so much... especially coming from the leader of an organization called 'the Race'.

[quote="zeezil"]Hispanic leaders eager to 'referee debate'
Group calls for tolerance
Stephen Dinan (Contact)
Wednesday, July 16, 2008

SAN DIEGO — The president of the nation's largest Hispanic rights organization says the group will serve as referee for the immigration debate and back it up with what members expect will be record Hispanic voter turnout in November.

What? Is she speaking of the immigration debate in general?

If so, just how does NCLR plan to referee it and who appointed them to do so?.

she said, adding that "hate speech is being parroted on the nightly news and by a number of politicians in both political parties."

Turning on the MSM now are they are? That's a good sign.

In the run-up to the convention, Ms. Murguia announced letters had been sent to both presidential campaigns asking the candidates to denounce those in their own party who she said have injected "hate" into the issue by campaigning against illegal immigrants.

The letter already paid off when Republican presumptive presidential nominee Sen. John McCain, in his speech Monday, took up her challenge and condemned "those who used the debate on immigration last year, not to respectfully debate the issue, as most did, but to denigrate the contributions of Hispanics to our great country."

In an interview, Ms. Murguia said that was a welcome statement, though "I'm not sure how much effect it will have" on his party.


None. Anything he said, was said behind the closed doors of the NCLR convention and not publicly to the broader audience of America and that's what they are demanding McCain and Obama both do.

They are expecting them to get up before millions and condemn their colleagues who are upholding their oaths of office and by virtue of doing so, in affect, make it known that they are allied with only one race in this country and are working with that race to undermine the sovereignty and rule of law that they are asking the American people to put them into office to protect.

Keep dreaming.....neither candidate is going to make the kind of public announcement you are demanding. It would be political suicide.



"Make no mistake. This is about all of us," she said.[/b][/color] "

That hag has gone totally round the bend. First it was just about illegal aliens...criminalizing and demonizing people living in the shadows who should be given a chance for a better life.

Now, suddenly, this debate is about targeting and getting rid of ALL hispanics in this country? I suppose next that the "ethnic cleansing" rhetoric is going to make a reappearance.

What in the world is this woman thinking?

She listed several citizens and legal U.S. residents who have been detained or caught up in immigration raids.

Why doesn't she tell the truth for a change? Citizens and legal residents being detained is stemming from the fact that people like her are instructing hispanics...ALL hispanics....to remain silent and REFUSE to answer any questions or produce ID for anyone in authority who asks.

There's a woman here.....a legal immigrant....who tried that crap and was hauled off to jail until they could prove who she was and that she was, in fact, legally here. She told my husband "La Raza can go to Hell before I'll do that s**t again"

I've got news for Marguia....when citizens and legal residents are being detained because they have followed the advice that you and your ilk have dispensed, then you need to blame yourselves and have the guts to tell the truth about it.

Ms. Murguia said she hopes November's elections will be the coming of age for Hispanic voters: "I would hope that on Nov. 5, there would be a message sent that the Latino community has projected their demographics into political strength."


I don't see where she is so convinced that the Latino population is going to single handedly elect the next president. Has she forgotten that there ARE others out there who vote as well?

In her closing speech, Ms. Murguia said they consider campaigning against illegal immigration the same as campaigning against immigrants and Hispanics in general

This woman needs a brain transplant. What is SO hard to tell between legal and illegal? And Yes, Ms. Murguia....there is some dislike against a portion of the hispanic segment.....those who refuse to speak English and those who have ill will against America and it's citizens and those like you who fuel the hate and refuse to have any respect for OUR laws.

This woman....man....they need a new leader because she single handedly does more damage for "her people" than anything. She's the Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton of the hispanic community.

Now, suddenly, this debate is about targeting and getting rid of ALL hispanics in this country? I suppose next that the "ethnic cleansing" rhetoric is going to make a reappearance

This is such a crock. If she is so concerned about the "hispanic community"....why was there never a word from this woman or this group in helping the border patrol agents. Has LaRaza sent any money or offered any help to those men or the family of those men?

Dies she have a mental issue telling the difference between legal and illegal? Nasty seperatist, racist attitude and being a part of this country?

The president of the nation's largest Hispanic rights organization says the group will serve as referee for the immigration debate and back it up with what members expect will be record Hispanic voter turnout in November

Talk about a rigged game! Sorry Janet, we don't want your group refereeing anything remotely related to the immigration debate in this country! Your group's inability to remain objective and unbiased would have to exclude you from any participation in this debate...

Make no mistake. This is about all of us," she said. "Most Latinos aren't immigrants. More than 80 percent of Hispanics in this country are U.S. citizens or legal residents. But, you can't tell that just by looking at us."

If that's the case then why is your group pushing amnesty so vigorously for such a small minority? Further, the hispanic population in this country whom are LEGALLY entitled to vote is estimated to be at 10%. Not much of a factor, even if every single hispanic turns out to cast a vote.

Of course, this number does not take into count the vast number of illegal invaders who may have been actively encouraged by la raza to register to vote. It's also hard to believe that a group like la raza, who shuns the rule of law and believes their beloved hispanics should come before the rule of law; would stand by inactively and allow milions of hispanic voters go to waste simply because they are not legally allowed to vote.

Maybe that is what she's refering to when she says," November's elections will be the coming of age for Hispanic voters."

In the run-up to the convention, Ms. Murguia announced letters had been sent to both presidential campaigns asking the candidates to denounce those in their own party who she said have injected "hate" into the issue by campaigning against illegal immigrants.

Just WHO does Janet Murguia think she is, Queen of Hispanics or something?

Does she REALLY think that the candidates can change the minds of their entire party when it comes to illegal immigration? DREAM ON JANET!

Not everyone rejoices in our success. The vitriol and hate that surrounded the immigration debate this year was a stark reminder that our road is long and filled with obstacles,"

WHAT SUCCESS? You lost. The only hate I've witnessed is the vomit being spewed by racists groups like LaRaza (The Race), LULAC, MALDEF, and many other racist, divisive, and offensive groups. The "obstacles" in this debate are people that want "blanket amnesty" and those who refuse to follow immigration laws.

Thank goodness that our representatives are now taking a closer look at the racist agenda of LaRaza. I'll keep my senators updated by emails here and there to keep them informed of LaRaza's latest hate news.

More than 80 percent of Hispanics in this country are U.S. citizens or legal residents. But, you can't tell that just by looking at us."

Bull......got a special calculator too?