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    Lame English Language Naturalization Requirements in the U.S.

    http://www.dailywritingtips.com/lang...d-citizenship/

    Comment #2 below is good. In addition, if the test were any harder, undocumented Democrats couldn't pass it!
    Language and Citizenship

    by Maeve Maddox

    Most countries have an “official” language. Several have more than one. Government business and schools are conducted in the official language. Official documents are printed in the official language.
    Knowledge of the country’s official language is usually one of the stated requirements for citizenship. For example, here are some language requirements I found in naturalization guidelines available on the web:
    Canada
    Be able to communicate in one of Canada’s official languages.
    France
    Provide proof of adequate knowledge of the French language.
    Germany
    Be able to speak German to ‘B1′ standard in the Common European Framework of Reference.
    Mexico
    Prove knowledge of Spanish and Mexican history.
    UK
    Be able to communicate in English, Welsh or Scottish Gaelic to an acceptable degree.
    USA
    Pass an English test


    Just how stringently the language requirement is enforced varies from place to place. Knowledge of Japanese is not specifically mentioned in the guidelines I found on line, but because an applicant for citizenship must complete the process entirely in Japanese, it’s unlikely that anyone could achieve citizenship without considerable fluency in the language.
    The UK has only recently required applicants for citizenship to provide proof they can speak the local language at the B1 level; the outcry against the stiffer requirements is still in progress. A speaker at the B1 level

    • can understand the main points of clear standard input on familiar matters regularly encountered in work, school, leisure, etc.
    • can deal with most situations likely to arise while traveling in an area where the language is spoken.
    • can produce simple connected text on topics that are familiar or of personal interest.
    • can describe experiences and events, dreams, hopes and ambitions and briefly give reasons and explanations for opinions and plans.

    Under a new rule, Canada now requires something similar to the European B1: “applicants [for citizenship] must provide objective evidence that they meet the language requirement, achieving the Canadian Language Benchmark/Niveau de compétence linguistique canadien 4 speaking and listening, when they file their application.”
    The United States government, on the other hand, is not only very generous in providing test waivers, but it doesn’t provide much of a test to those who can’t claim exemption. A new citizen commenting at the Business Week site describes his experience:
    I prepared for three months for this exam. [...] For the reading part of the exam, I was asked to read the following sentence: “Today is a sunny day.” For the writing part of the exam, I was asked to write the following words: “Today is a sunny day.” [...] I was flat out insulted.
    It doesn’t seem unreasonable to expect immigrants who plan to spend the rest of their lives in a country to learn to speak the country’s language of government and education.

    3 Responses to “Language and Citizenship”

    • Andy Knoedler on March 2, 2014 2:03 pm I know that anyone wanting to acquire the right to permanently reside in Thailand needs to demonstrate a knowledge of Thai. Similarly, in Bahrain a speaking knowledge of Arabic is required.
      A friend of mine, originally from West Virginia, wanted to obtain Bahraini citizenship. He went to an interview and spoke commendably in Arabic, but he was turned down. I think he just wasn’t taken very seriously because he wasn’t thought to be ethnically very Arab-like.

    • Mel on March 2, 2014 2:27 pm But you see, requiring someone to speak more or better English than “today is a sunny day” might hurt their feelings, or offend them. We’ve been told for at least 20 years that it’s way more important to make people feel good about themselves than to actually teach them something. That’s why half the native English-speakers graduating from US schools today don’t know their own language.
      It’s sad and depressing, but it’s true.

    • Iola on March 2, 2014 5:41 pm There were mumblings about the language test for UK citizenship when we left six years ago. What annoyed us was that native English speakers – people from countries such as Australia, Canada, New Zealand and the US – would also have to sit the test.
      However, Mel’s point above puts that in perspective. The UK government must have a similar opinion about the US education system (and perhaps others). Or it could be that they don’t want to offend or discriminate any racial minorities, so have the same rule for everyone.





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    Quote Originally Posted by busseysmom2 View Post
    http://www.dailywritingtips.com/lang...d-citizenship/

    Comment #2 below is good. In addition, if the test were any harder, undocumented Democrats couldn't pass it!
    Language and Citizenship

    by Maeve Maddox

    Most countries have an “official” language. Several have more than one. Government business and schools are conducted in the official language. Official documents are printed in the official language.
    Knowledge of the country’s official language is usually one of the stated requirements for citizenship. For example, here are some language requirements I found in naturalization guidelines available on the web:
    Canada
    Be able to communicate in one of Canada’s official languages.
    France
    Provide proof of adequate knowledge of the French language.
    Germany
    Be able to speak German to ‘B1′ standard in the Common European Framework of Reference.
    Mexico
    Prove knowledge of Spanish and Mexican history.
    UK
    Be able to communicate in English, Welsh or Scottish Gaelic to an acceptable degree.
    USA
    Pass an English test


    Just how stringently the language requirement is enforced varies from place to place. Knowledge of Japanese is not specifically mentioned in the guidelines I found on line, but because an applicant for citizenship must complete the process entirely in Japanese, it’s unlikely that anyone could achieve citizenship without considerable fluency in the language.
    The UK has only recently required applicants for citizenship to provide proof they can speak the local language at the B1 level; the outcry against the stiffer requirements is still in progress. A speaker at the B1 level

    • can understand the main points of clear standard input on familiar matters regularly encountered in work, school, leisure, etc.
    • can deal with most situations likely to arise while traveling in an area where the language is spoken.
    • can produce simple connected text on topics that are familiar or of personal interest.
    • can describe experiences and events, dreams, hopes and ambitions and briefly give reasons and explanations for opinions and plans.

    Under a new rule, Canada now requires something similar to the European B1: “applicants [for citizenship] must provide objective evidence that they meet the language requirement, achieving the Canadian Language Benchmark/Niveau de compétence linguistique canadien 4 speaking and listening, when they file their application.”
    The United States government, on the other hand, is not only very generous in providing test waivers, but it doesn’t provide much of a test to those who can’t claim exemption. A new citizen commenting at the Business Week site describes his experience:
    I prepared for three months for this exam. [...] For the reading part of the exam, I was asked to read the following sentence: “Today is a sunny day.” For the writing part of the exam, I was asked to write the following words: “Today is a sunny day.” [...] I was flat out insulted.
    It doesn’t seem unreasonable to expect immigrants who plan to spend the rest of their lives in a country to learn to speak the country’s language of government and education.

    3 Responses to “Language and Citizenship”


    • Andy Knoedler on March 2, 2014 2:03 pm I know that anyone wanting to acquire the right to permanently reside in Thailand needs to demonstrate a knowledge of Thai. Similarly, in Bahrain a speaking knowledge of Arabic is required.
      A friend of mine, originally from West Virginia, wanted to obtain Bahraini citizenship. He went to an interview and spoke commendably in Arabic, but he was turned down. I think he just wasn’t taken very seriously because he wasn’t thought to be ethnically very Arab-like.
    • Mel on March 2, 2014 2:27 pm But you see, requiring someone to speak more or better English than “today is a sunny day” might hurt their feelings, or offend them. We’ve been told for at least 20 years that it’s way more important to make people feel good about themselves than to actually teach them something. That’s why half the native English-speakers graduating from US schools today don’t know their own language.
      It’s sad and depressing, but it’s true.
    • Iola on March 2, 2014 5:41 pm There were mumblings about the language test for UK citizenship when we left six years ago. What annoyed us was that native English speakers – people from countries such as Australia, Canada, New Zealand and the US – would also have to sit the test.
      However, Mel’s point above puts that in perspective. The UK government must have a similar opinion about the US education system (and perhaps others). Or it could be that they don’t want to offend or discriminate any racial minorities, so have the same rule for everyone.




    IT NOT ONLY MEXICO IT ALL THE COUNTRY THAT SHOULD KNOW ENGLISH & SPEAKER IT THE MEXICO THEY SOUND LIKE CHICK IT
    NOT FUNNY IT SAD YOUR IN OUR COUNTRY SPEAKE OUR LANGUAGE ( THIS IS FOR THE WH & OBAMA WAKE UP )DON'T FOR GET
    THE VOICE OF THE US PUT IN THE WH & THEY CAN GET YOU OUT YOU WORK FOR US WE DON'T WORK FOR YOU
    SO FOR EVERY COUNTRY SPEAKE OUR LANGUAGE YOUR IN OUR COUNTRY NOW

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