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    LAPD officers won't be charged in MacArthur Park melee

    LAPD officers won't be charged in MacArthur Park melee

    Prosecutors say there is insufficient evidence to prove that any of the 30 officers who were investigated violated the law when using force during the 2007 May Day immigration rally.

    By Richard Winton and Andrew Blankstein
    October 31, 2009

    The Los Angeles County district attorney's office will not file criminal charges against any of the LAPD officers who discharged rubberized bullets and wielded batons during the 2007 May Day melee at MacArthur Park, officials announced Friday.

    After a lengthy review, prosecutors said there is insufficient evidence to prove that any of the 30 officers who were investigated violated the law when using force, although some might have used "questionable tactics."

    The melee, which occurred at the conclusion of a pro- immigration rally and received national attention, resulted from poor police training, leadership and communication, prosecutors said. Their finding echoed the Los Angeles Police Department's own scathing report on the officers' actions.

    Officers were videotaped wielding batons and shooting less-than-lethal rubberized bullets in an attempt to disperse the mostly peaceful crowd after a small group of agitators confronted police. Dozens of protesters and journalists were injured as officers cleared the park.

    The department's "planning, tactical and command failures" were the backdrop for the officers' actions against "both violent protesters and nonviolent protesters and media personnel," prosecutors said in their report. "The media had innocently and unwittingly positioned themselves in an area directly in the path of officers attempting to clear the park."

    In the immediate aftermath, Police Chief William J. Bratton removed a deputy chief and commander from their posts. Deputy Chief Caylor "Lee" Carter retired shortly thereafter.

    Bratton also said he planned to discipline several officers and called for the termination of others for their roles in the melee. But internal disciplinary panels gave no officer more than a 20-day suspension. A small group of officers, however, were demoted, according to their attorney.

    Earlier this year, the Los Angeles City Council agreed to pay nearly $13 million to people injured or mistreated in the May Day melee.

    Carol Sobel, a lawyer for some of the plaintiffs, said that although the LAPD admitted errors in the incident that the "the whole approach toward disciplining officers . . . has been a total whitewash. They could have filed charges against the officers that were seen repeatedly beating people."

    But in their report, prosecutors concluded that "not every push or shove amounts to excessive force. We cannot establish that any particular officer's actions were unreasonable or without lawful necessity in light of the tense, uncertain and rapidly evolving circumstances."

    They said that tactical gear worn by police made it difficult or impossible to identify specific officers, which is key to any prosecution.

    Prosecutors noted that 20 officers and supervisors were subject to department punishment.

    Los Angeles Police Protective League President Paul Weber praised the district attorney's review, saying that it "sought only truth and justice, and was not influenced by any political agenda."

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    About time common sense prevailed! Now how do they get back the $13 million payout? Can those officers who were suspended sue the organizers of this "peaceful" march?
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    Amazes me that these same people that complain on how they are treated in America,have the right to protest ,but yet give way to a violence (said to be a small group).

    And as you can see the million or so Americans that protested in Washington were very reserved and polite when it came to leaving any type of litter in the area.

    Glad to hear they found the officers free of any charges
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    I'm glad the officers prevailed. Finally, justice!

    It seems obama is so fond of reparations, perhaps he should give the officers reparations for the false charges lodged against them. But make sure the reparations come from obama's bank account and not our tax dollars. smile
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    Quote Originally Posted by miguelina
    About time common sense prevailed! Now how do they get back the $13 million payout? Can those officers who were suspended sue the organizers of this "peaceful" :roll: march?
    It was a deal.
    The city gave them $13 million so that they wouldn't complain when the officers aren't prosecuted.
    The officers and the union can sue the City/P.D. for back pay.
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    I wonder which cartel owns Bratton?...But after reading things like this I don't wonder why California is broke and begging. Anybody see those commercials they run all the time about vacationing in California? I laugh my butt off...but it's not funny when the cause of the problem is considered. Just that that moron thinks anyone really wants to visit that state. Might as well go to mexico and be kidnapped, tortured and murdered for my vaction! At least things'll be cheaper there until they get me. lol lol lol

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    Macarthur Park Mini riot -- The Other Side Of The Story!
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    Quote Originally Posted by PatrioticMe
    I wonder which cartel owns Bratton?...But after reading things like this I don't wonder why California is broke and begging. Anybody see those commercials they run all the time about vacationing in California? I laugh my butt off...but it's not funny when the cause of the problem is considered. Just that that moron thinks anyone really wants to visit that state. Might as well go to mexico and be kidnapped, tortured and murdered for my vaction! At least things'll be cheaper there until they get me. lol lol lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by PatrioticMe
    Might as well go to mexico and be kidnapped, tortured and murdered for my vaction! At least things'll be cheaper there until they get me. lol lol lol
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