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    Latino-rights advocate says halt imm raids during cencus

    Published: 10.18.2008

    Latino-rights advocate calls for halt to immigration raids during census
    By Howard Fischer
    CAPITOL MEDIA SERVICES
    PHOENIX — The head of a major Latino-rights group wants the next president to appoint a Homeland Security chief who will agree to halt immigration raids during the 2010 census.
    But Gov. Janet Napolitano, who could be that appointee, is on record as opposing such a move.
    John Trasviña told the Arizona Latino Research Enterprise Town Hall on Friday that getting an accurate count is critical to electing more Hispanics to office. And the president of the Mexican American Legal Defense and Education Fund said to do that first requires educating the Latino community about the importance of the decennial count.
    "We cannot do that as well as we want to until we know the Department of Homeland Security is not going to be out there at the same time the enumerators are out there, knocking on doors, asking for people's names and who lives at that particular house," he said.
    Trasviña said a proper count of Hispanics, legal and otherwise, will affect how congressional and state legislative districts are drawn for the 2012 elections.
    "If we do our job right, we will have a record number of Latinos in Congress, Asian Ameri-cans in Congress," he said, along with gains in statehouses.
    In Arizona, he said, counting all those who are not citizens — a figure the Census Bureau most recently estimated at 700,000 out of about 6.4 million residents — could mean the difference between getting one or two new seats in the U.S. House of Representatives.
    Trasviña said the chief immigration officer in charge in 1990 and again in 2000 agreed to "back off" during the count. But Russ Knocke, press aide to current Homeland Security chief Michael Chertoff, said that idea is a non-starter.
    "As long as we are around, we won't halt or even think of letting up our enforcement operations," he said.
    Napolitano, when asked about the idea last year, said she sees no need to slow or halt raids.
    The governor acknowledged it is important to get an accurate count of everyone here, legal or otherwise, with everything from congressional representation to federal aid tied to those figures.
    But Napolitano said the question of raids versus a correct count is a "false dichotomy."
    She said the Census Bureau can count heads and then augment those with some of the statistically based methods to go from "actual" count to "real" count. The governor said federal officials already do that.
    "You can't ever count everybody all the time because people move around," she said.
    Her stance could be more significant than her role as Arizona governor: An early supporter of Democrat Barack Obama, Napolitano has been mentioned as a possible Cabinet pick, including secretary of Homeland Security or attorney general.
    In his speech Friday, Trasviña had some things he wants from the next president in his pick for that latter post, too.
    "We need an attorney general who will take Latino civil rights seriously," he said. Trasviña said he wants someone modeled after Robert Kennedy, who held that post in the 1960s during the civil-rights era, "to take over from the uncontrollable and the irresponsible Southern sheriffs."
    Trasviña said this is more than a criticism of Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio, whose department has conducted crime-suppression "sweeps" that foes say target anyone who looks Hispanic. He said the federal statute that gave Arpaio's deputies the right to enforce immigration laws needs to be revisited by Congress.
    He said that provision, known as 287-G, has led to racial profiling by other police departments that have received the authorization. Trasviña wants current 287-G agreements suspended — including the one being used by Arpaio — with no new agreements "until we can get some sense out of what's going on with local law enforcement of the federal immigration laws."

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    Illegal aliens remain exempt from American laws, while they DEMAND American rights...

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    These people should not be included in the census of America. Only citizens of the United States should be afforded representation in the Congress.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vmonkey56
    These people should not be included in the census of America. Only citizens of the United States should be afforded representation in the Congress.
    I agree, but I would count LEGAL immigrants. The raids and deportations should not be stopped, they must continue.
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    Turn it around

    "Latino-rights advocate calls for halt to immigration raids during census"...

    Here's my headline...that we all want to read...

    "American Citizens rights advocates call for halt to illegal immigration takeover of our country..."

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    Sounds to me like the perfect time for ice,The FBI, all the 287-g trained officers to go door to door.Get the illegal aliens,the gang members,any terrorrist they might find and a lot of people with warrants out for them.WORKS FOR ME!!




    STAND TALL PATRIOTS!!

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    Hello....common sense alert!

    It's the U.S. Federal Census - count only legal residents! Duh!

    And no time outs for law breakers.
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    we need

    We need ICE to take out ads in Mexican newspapers (though the ads would never be sold) that state emphatically, "If you come to the US illegally, you WILL be arrested and you WILL be deported."

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    Trasviña said ...."If we do our job right, we will have a record number of Latinos in Congress, Asian Ameri-cans in Congress," he said, along with gains in statehouses Funny he didnt say "Latino Ammeri-cans". Some times it's what you dont say that counts .

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    Illegal invaders have no right to representation in any body of our government! This is why we are in the mess we are in, because certain districts, made up almost entirely of illegal invaders, are being represented based upon census data.

    Today, American city and state leaders use US Census data for planning and getting federal funds for new schools, roads, hospitals, parks, housing projects and hundreds of other beneficial public projects.

    So long as census dats is used to determine the number of representatives each state gets, illegals must not be counted!
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    We need to get Judical Watch to sue the government for including illegals in the census, they are not the "persons" the 14th Amendment was written for. The 14th amendment was referring to freed slaves, they had previously only been counted as 3/5th of a person for census purposes.

    While they are at it Judical Watch should sue to end the anchor baby scam also since one again the 14th Amendment only applies to freed slaves, not foreign invaders.
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