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    Let's get real and end birthright citizenship for illegal immigrants

    Let's get real and end birthright citizenship for illegal immigrants


    Sen. David Vitter (R-La.)

    Every 93 seconds a beautiful baby ‎is born in the United States . . . to illegal immigrant parents. Due to the current misinterpretation of the 14th Amendment, that child is immediately deemed a U.S. citizen--and given all the related financial, legal, and social benefits, which includes opportunities for those illegal immigrant parents to cash in on many of the benefits.

    We simply cannot continue to ignore this. 400,000 cases every year isn't a trivial distraction. It's a real part of our illegal immigration problem.

    We must face the fact that the current policy of birthright citizenship is a huge magnet for more illegal crossings into our country. And unfortunately, that's often at the hands of very dangerous people.

    This magnet attracts women from Mexico and Central America to make the dangerous trek north, often in the hands of “coyotes” or human smugglers and drug cartels. These women frequently put their lives into the hands of criminal gangs, some who make a living on human trafficking.

    Then there's the growing birth tourism industry. Many foreign women, notably from China, pay huge amounts of money in order to travel to the United States and be housed, often in shady accommodations, while pregnant with the intent of birthing a child during their stay.

    Earlier this year, federal agents were able to put a stop to a specific so-called birth tourism “ring” in southern California, and found several pregnant women with fraudulent visas. Some of them had paid up to $80,000 to have their babies born on U.S. soil.

    Does this policy make any sense for us? Isn't there a reason we're one of only two advanced countries in the world that allow this?

    Washington elites can't offer any compelling arguments. So instead, they push the notion that this is mandated by the U.S. Constitution, specifically the Fourteenth Amendment. Well, that's wrong too.

    The 14th Amendment states: “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States.”

    The phrase “and subject to the jurisdiction thereof” clearly means something. It's clearly an additional requirement beyond simply being physically born here. And it clearly suggests the ability of Congress to define such jurisdiction.

    The history and record of the Congressional debates leading to the passage of the Fourteenth Amendment supports this too. As do how other people have been treated under the Fourteenth Amendment, including American Indians.

    Passage of the Fourteenth Amendment in the mid-1860s invalidated the Supreme Court’s opinion in Dred Scott v. Sanford, which held that United States citizenship could only be enjoyed by two classes of people: whites born in the United States as descendants of those who were citizens at the time the Constitution was signed or those who had since migrated to the United States and been naturalized. But even with passage of the amendment, which granted citizenship to freed slaves, American Indians still didn’t receive full citizenship rights until 1924, when Congress passed the Indian Citizenship Act. In Supreme Court decisions since, specifically Rogers v. Bellei, Congress was recognized for having the authority to impose conditions on who can receive citizenship if the person in question is not “born or naturalized in the United States.”

    In light of all this, I’ve introduced legislation in each Congress since 2011 that would clarify that birthright citizenship would only be given to children of U.S. citizens and legal resident aliens. By closing the loopholes in our immigration laws, we can live under and abide by the Fourteenth Amendment and further sound immigration policy.

    There is broad bipartisan support, not just in Congress but across the country, to make this change. The American people recognize that we cannot continue with our current free-for-all birthright citizenship practice.

    Isn't it time for us to make significant, real reforms to our immigration laws so that America – the world’s melting pot – can welcome immigrants in a legal, organized, and safe way? Let's get serious about that. Let's control our borders and the process of granting citizenship, including by ending birthright citizenship for illegal immigrants.

    Vitter is Louisiana’s senior senator, serving since 2005. He is chairman of the Small Business and Entrepreneurship Committee, and also sits on the Banking, Housing and urban Affairs; the Environment and Public Works; and the Judiciary committees.


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    THIS POST WAS ON BE FOR &I NO CITIZEN FOR ANY ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS WHAT PART DON'T ANY OF YOU UNDER STAND ?

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    I think I will make some yard signs regarding the reality of globalization. In my very liberal city the officials are essentially promoting a building boom that will have the consequence, even if they did not intend it, of permanently settling ultra liberal young voters who will simply rubber stamp with their votes increasingly outrageous progressivist and globalist policies. These voters may espouse an anti capitalist view, but with globalization the capitalist class will never actually be unseated---it will just move to new societies. This will be the worst of all possible world short of all out war----an internal political coup that exchanges moral values and practical skills with an unending cycle of imports, cheap labor and rampant inflation.

    Requiring a lot of tools yet frequently denied employment I have had to do crisis shopping-----dollar tree for food and basic items, and a well know tool store (has a synonym for "port" in its name for working tools. Nearly everything in these stores is imported, usually from China. I took back some plastic folding sawhorses, that were rated at "350 lbs capacity" (really about fifty pounds and they bend very badly) had to get in a heated argument with the hispanic store manager, and there are lots of hispanic tradespeople shopping there. Of course the construction sites are full of hispanic workers, the fast food places hire hispanic crews and managers who can converse with them.

    Then being a liberal coastal city, hardly anyone drives a US made pickup truck. Once people do get money from the building boom they are blowing it on costly imported cars---yet people don't seem to get that it is their consumer choice which has ruined US industrial cities. Or if they do get a US made working vehicle people drive over the center line on our narrow streets trying to avoid bicyclists---yet putting other drivers in danger as they thoughtless cross a foot or so into oncoming lanes. The bicyclist group is well entrenched and always demanding more of r them---but generally at war with the auto drivers and not trying to cooperate and find solutions for everyone. So there are may bicyclists riding in traffic without safety gear and often at night with out any lights or with poorly visible lights. There is progress because obviously thoughtful people don't want to get run down, but with all the extra bicycle traffic there is simply a lot more stress and angry encounters.

    Yet many people are moving in and likely three fourths of them will simply approve the same policies, even though it will cost them in the long run. Small businesspeople are eating this up, too, as they try to cut costs, yet all this adds up to domestic unemployment. I was in a construction union, but our union is getting in on very little of the construction boom. The BIG WINNERS will be these construction companies, the big property owners who are subdividing like crazy and the new empowered ethnic grievance lobbies. On my street I am on the residential link for a regional trail and if I put a sign out it gets seen at least, and I also live across from a school. I wonder how many of these new urbanist types would agree with me that globalization is ultimately going to be a disaster. The problem is they paint you as an ignorant bigot. I guess I should have a sign that looks like it is leftist in character!
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    Young people today really aren't that liberal. If you look at the polls of those supporting Donald Trump for example, he does as well with young voters as he does with middle aged and older voters.
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    Judy, that is on a case by case basis. What is happening in our city is that liberals for the last several decades have been leaving other cities and flocking here. That is how the homosexual movement became entrenched here, as they went from about half of a percent to about four percent of the population. These groups also form alliances ostensibly to advance causes they claim all relate to social justice. And unlike industrial cities where the Democrat leaders are smarting under the loss of unionized industrial jobs, our economy is not tied to manufacturing on a great scale, so they are still able to claim that their policies are working.

    It's apples and oranges. We have gone from a predominately conservative state----but being on the coast, not as conservative as heartland states---to one where liberals get easy victories. If the GOP would get out the vote in smaller towns and rural areas in this state they could stem this trend, but they are lazy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captainron View Post
    Judy, that is on a case by case basis. What is happening in our city is that liberals for the last several decades have been leaving other cities and flocking here. That is how the homosexual movement became entrenched here, as they went from about half of a percent to about four percent of the population. These groups also form alliances ostensibly to advance causes they claim all relate to social justice. And unlike industrial cities where the Democrat leaders are smarting under the loss of unionized industrial jobs, our economy is not tied to manufacturing on a great scale, so they are still able to claim that their policies are working.

    It's apples and oranges. We have gone from a predominately conservative state----but being on the coast, not as conservative as heartland states---to one where liberals get easy victories. If the GOP would get out the vote in smaller towns and rural areas in this state they could stem this trend, but they are lazy.
    Oh! Okay. Thanks for the clarification.
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