Thread: The Latest: Mexico says US troops on border won't be armed

The Latest: Mexico says US troops on border won't be armed

April 4, 2018

AP

The Latest on President Donald Trump and immigration (all times local):


9:55 p.m.
The Mexican foreign ministry says U.S. Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen has told Mexico's top diplomat that U.S. National Guard troops being deployed to the border "will not carry arms or carry out migration or customs control activities."
Mexican Foreign Secretary Luis Videgaray is in Washington on a visit. A foreign ministry statement issued Wednesday night says Nielsen told Videgaray that the troops will only be providing support for Department of Homeland Security work.
It says the deployment will be similar to ones in 2006 under President George Bush and in 2010 with President Barack Obama.
Trump signed a proclamation earlier Wednesday ordering the secretary of defense to support the Department of Homeland Security in securing the southern border to stop the flow of drugs and migrants.
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8:30 p.m.
Arizona Gov. Doug Ducey says his state welcomes the deployment of the National Guard to the U.S.-Mexico border.
In a statement Wednesday, Ducey says he looks forward to working closely with federal officials on the issue.
President Donald Trump has ordered the Secretary of Defense to support the Department of Homeland Security in securing the southern border to stop the flow of drugs and people.
Ducey says "Washington has ignored this issue for too long and help is needed."
The governor says he's been in touch with Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen multiple times this week and Arizona will cooperate fully with the Trump administration.
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8:15 p.m.
President Donald Trump has signed a proclamation directing the National Guard to be deployed to the U.S.-Mexico border.
Trump says Wednesday in a memorandum to his secretaries of defense and homeland security and to his attorney general that the "situation at the border has now reached a point of crisis."
The document orders the Secretary of Defense to support the Department of Homeland Security in securing the southern border to stop the flow of drugs and people.
And it orders the agency heads to submit a report within 30 days outlining what other steps can be taken.
Trump says that "lawlessness" at the southern border is "fundamentally incompatible with the safety, security, and sovereignty of the American people." And he says his administration "has no choice but to act."
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7:35 p.m.
New Mexico Gov. Susana Martinez says she appreciates the Trump administration's efforts to involve states as the federal government takes steps to better secure the border.
Martinez spokesman Mike Lonergan said Wednesday that the Republican governor offers her full support to the New Mexico National Guard as the Trump administration announced it would deploy Guardsmen to the southwest border.
The governor's office says the U.S. wouldn't be in the current situation if Congress would act on immigration reforms that address border security.
Martinez often has framed immigration issues as a matter of public safety for New Mexico, and she has been a proponent of close cooperation between local law enforcement and Immigration and Customs Enforcement.
She clashed with Trump on his comments about Mexican immigrants during his campaign for president.
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6:55 p.m.
Mexican senators are urging President Enrique Pena Nieto to temporarily suspend cooperation with the U.S. on immigration and security issues, responding to angry tweets from President Donald Trump about their country.
The nonbinding statement was approved unanimously Wednesday. It asks Mexico's government to freeze joint efforts "in the fight against transnational organized crime" until Trump acts "with the civility and respect that the people of Mexico deserve."
The senators condemn the "baseless and offensive comments about Mexico and Mexicans," reject efforts to militarize the countries' shared border and ask the U.S. Congress to insist the president deal with Mexico "on the basis of respect and collaboration."
Pena Nieto told reporters his government is waiting for clarifications about U.S. intentions to send troops to the border before presenting a "very clear" position on the issue.
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6:05 p.m.
Texas Gov. Greg Abbott's office says he will add more National Guard members to the roughly 100 already deployed to the U.S.-Mexico border in the state.
Abbott said in a statement Wednesday that he welcomed the Trump administration's announcement that it will "immediately" deploy guardsmen to the southwest border. The Republican governor said the announcement "reinforces Texas' longstanding commitment to secure our southern border."
Former Texas Gov. Rick Perry ordered 1,000 guardsmen to the border in July 2014 during a large spike in crossings by unaccompanied migrant children. State leaders announced months later that they would wind down most of that deployment.
Texas also has state troopers stationed at its border to assist the Border Patrol and local law enforcement.
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5:45 p.m.
Republicans who lead congressional Homeland Security committees are supporting President Donald Trump's plan to deploy National Guard troops on the U.S.-Mexico border.
Rep. Michael McCaul of Texas, chairman of the House homeland panel, calls the move "a positive step toward providing the safety this nation has long demanded" on the border.
Sen. Ron Johnson of Wisconsin, chairman of the Senate homeland panel, also backs Trump's action and says he is working with the administration to fix the "broken" immigration system and close legal loopholes that encourage illegal immigration.
Johnson says the president and Congress have a duty to protect American citizens and secure the border.
Democratic Sen. Tom Udall of New Mexico denounced the plan as "another pitiful attempt to distract attention from the dangerous chaos" Trump has created.
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3:45 p.m.
The Trump administration says it is working with governors to "immediately" deploy the National Guard to combat illegal immigration at the U.S.-Mexico border.
Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen said Wednesday that DHS and the Pentagon will be working closely with governors in the affected states.
She says that deployment will be done as expeditiously as possible and that Guard troops could begin heading to the border as soon as Wednesday night.
Trump announced his plan to send the military to the border during a meeting with Baltic leaders Tuesday.
Trump has been frustrated by Congress' refusal to fund building a wall along the length of the U.S. border as well as an increase in illegal border crossings.
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3:30 p.m.
President Donald Trump will be signing a proclamation directing the departments of Defense and Homeland Security to work together with governors to deploy the National Guard to the southwest border.
Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen made the announcement at the White House on Wednesday. She says he'll sign the proclamation later in the day.
Nielsen is also railing against the country's current immigration laws and calling on Congress to make changes.
She says the current system "rewards bad behavior" and "it's time to act."
She says details are still being worked out, but National Guard personnel are expected to assist with U.S. Customs and Border Protection's mission.
Trump announced on Tuesday that he plans to deploy the military to the southern border until his long-promised wall is built.
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7:35 a.m.
President Donald Trump is promising "strong action today" on immigration.
Trump says on Twitter: "Our Border Laws are very weak while those of Mexico & Canada are very strong. Congress must change these Obama era, and other, laws NOW! The Democrats stand in our way — they want people to pour into our country unchecked....CRIME! We will be taking strong action today."
The president did not detail what that action would be. The White House did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
Trump said Tuesday that wants to use the military to secure the U.S.-Mexico border until his promised border wall is erected. The White House later said Trump wanted to mobilize the National Guard.
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6:45 a.m.
President Donald Trump wants to use the military to secure the U.S.-Mexico border until his "big, beautiful wall" is erected.
He said during a news conference Tuesday: "Until we can have a wall and proper security, we're going to be guarding our border with the military."
He has been frustrated by the lack of progress on fulfilling the signature promise of his campaign.
Federal law prohibits the use of active-duty service members for law enforcement inside the U.S., unless specifically authorized by Congress. But over the past 12 years, presidents have twice sent National Guard troops to the border to bolster security and assist with surveillance and other support.
The administration appears to be considering a model similar to a 2006 operation deployed by President George W. Bush.



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So who protects our "unarmed troops" down there on the border combating all these dangerous criminals? I don't think Trump knows about this "unarmed" nonsense. Spread it far and wide in the AM, Fox and Friends, so Trump can find out that the troops are to be unarmed so he can correct this stupidity. Does Trump realize that Border Patrol is stationed 40 miles north of the Border? Be sure to spread that news too so he can find out, because when Trump decides to send troops, he expects them to be armed, and when he sends them to the border, he expects them to be on the border. Plain words. Plain meanings. Plain expectations from the plain words with the plain meanings in our language.

An unarmed troop is not a "troop". It's just a uniformed potential victim of illegal immigration and the dangerous criminal enterprises behind it.

Why would DHS be telling Mexico what we're doing on our border?! Is this the assurance they needed to quiet and calm the cartels?

Is this how Mad Dog Mattis fights a border war? I guess it's been so long since they've fought one, no one knows how to do it.

Trump, like everything else, you're going to have to run this show yourself. Keep Kirsten off the TV and off the phone, then get rid of her.

The Latest: Mexico says US troops on border won't be armed

But the Border Patrol will be armed! And with the Guard helping, there will be may more of the Border Patrol available!

National Guard troops to Mexico border, but they won't have contact with immigrants

Seven letter word: USELESS.

FIRE JOHN KELLY AND KIRJSTEN!!!

Trump conned as again. No surprise to me anymore. The guy is all talk and no action. Just like Obozo.

Hey Dman! So nice to see you again! I actually think Kirsten misspoke to the Mexican foreign minister about them not being armed, or the Mexicans lied to our press about the conversation, or Kirsten doesn't know that our troops will be armed. Maybe they aren't armed during Hurrican Relief Missions and in her inexperience thought this mission would be the same. It won't be, it can't be, that would not only be a joke, it would be dangerous for the troops. Troops were armed during the Operation Jump Start in 2006 and 2007, and I'm quite sure they'll be armed on this mission. They will be doing a lot of different things, so maybe those inside the office buildings watching cameras at desk jobs won't be. But troops on the ground, in the field and on the border will be. If they're not, this will be the dumbest military operation in the history of the US.

Originally Posted by Judy

Hey Dman! So nice to see you again! I actually think Kirsten misspoke to the Mexican foreign minister about them not being armed, or the Mexicans lied to our press about the conversation, or Kirsten doesn't know that our troops will be armed. Maybe they aren't armed during Hurrican Relief Missions and in her inexperience thought this mission would be the same. It won't be, it can't be, that would not only be a joke, it would be dangerous for the troops. Troops were armed during the Operation Jump Start in 2006 and 2007, and I'm quite sure they'll be armed on this mission. They will be doing a lot of different things, so maybe those inside the office buildings watching cameras at desk jobs won't be. But troops on the ground, in the field and on the border will be. If they're not, this will be the dumbest military operation in the history of the US.

Actually the NG back in 2006 under Bush were not armed at the border. They were only there to observe and report. I hope you are right and I am wrong. I don't want this to be true. We have been snake-bitten so many times not only with previous admins, but this one as well. If I'm right, this would be a major slap in the face to all of us and would assure that Trump is gone in 2020. I was really excited when I first heard Trump say he would put troops on the border, but when I heard it was NG, my first reaction was, oh no this is 2006 all over again and that was before I read the NBC article. If I'm wrong, I will apologize for over reacting. I'm afraid that my instincts are right way more often then they are wrong. I guess we shall see.

Of course I think it may be a moot point because OR governor is already refusing to cooperate and I doubt Moonbeam will either so Trump is going to have to pull a rabbit out of his hat and get creative.