Man says he illegally crossed border 4 times in 10 days

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Man says he illegally crossed border 4 times in 10 days

Aug. 29, 2006 12:00 AM

An undocumented immigrant arrested by Maricopa County sheriff's deputies said he illegally crossed the border four times in 10 days.

Aurelio Solorzano-Ovando, 35, told officials that three of those crossings resulted in arrests by Border Patrol agents, who released him in Mexico. Deputies arrested Solorzano-Ovando and 11 other undocumented immigrants Thursday in the far-west Valley on suspicion of conspiring to smuggle themselves into the country.

Sheriff Joe Arpaio said Solorzano-Ovando "personifies the problem" with the federal government and its "revolving door" policy. Immigration and Customs Enforcement officials could not be reached to verify Solorzano-Ovando's claim, but a Border Patrol official said it's possible. According to Tucson Sector spokesman Gustavo Soto, an illegal crossing suspect is escorted back to Mexico if he or she has no significant criminal or immigration history.

- Lindsey Collom

This "revolving door policy" is the reason everyone caught needs to be properly processed (not just immediately released). Those that are caught a second time should do an automatic 12 months in a tent-city prison set up on the border specifically for that reason - no color T.V., no hot-cold running water, no daily showers, etc. (no comforts). These people should be used, as has been suggested, to build border walls. Tent-cities can be moved as necessary.

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This "revolving door policy" is the reason everyone caught needs to be properly processed (not just immediately released). Those that are caught a second time should do an automatic 12 months in a tent-city prison set up on the border specifically for that reason - no color T.V., no hot-cold running water, no daily showers, etc. (no comforts). These people should be used, as has been suggested, to build border walls. Tent-cities can be moved as necessary.

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An American friend of mine is vacationing in El Paso, during the week-end he went to visit Ciudad Juarez, and he told me that on his way back to El Paso all he had to tell the guard by the border was: US citizen, and that the guy didn't even bother to look at his passport. He says that any one can pass very easy with no problem.

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Originally Posted by opinion

He says that any one can pass very easy with no problem.

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Well, that's not entirely true; us CBP Officers are very adept at picking out citizens from non-citizens.

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Originally Posted by marineinspector

Well, that's not entirely true; us CBP Officers are very adept at picking out citizens from non-citizens.

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can you share some of the criteria? I mean, what kind of things do you specifically look for?

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Well, that's not entirely true; us CBP Officers are very adept at picking out citizens from non-citizens.

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Regardless of specific talents, I'm sure they are still required to check for proper documentation. Not to do so makes the individual negligent in his/her job performance and that should not be tolerated! Furthermore, wouldn''t not checking be the same thing as profiling? Lord knows we've heard enough about "profiling" from the pro-illegal immigrant activists to know the border patrol wouldn't want to be accused of such. :wink:

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Regardless of specific talents, I'm sure they are still required to check for proper documentation.

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Currently, US citizens are not required any documentation.

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Furthermore, wouldn''t not checking be the same thing as profiling?

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Every CBP Officer profiles, we just call it targeting; but it's the same thing.

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can you share some of the criteria? I mean, what kind of things do you specifically look for?

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Physical appearance, to include how the person dresses and grooms themselves; race; speech patterns; nervousness; where the persons is entering; where the person is coming from; mode of travel; ect...

Just the other day, I caught a Mexican male that had been working here in the US. This is how I decide to referred him to secondary for a more thorough exam:

He was arriving on a flight from a relatively poor part of Mexico; as he approaches my both, I notice the subject was young, probably early 20’s, and well dress. At this age, the subject is either working or in school. It’s unlikely that he could afford his clothes, unless his parents own a business or he works for a large company. There is also a slim possibility that he may be a US Citizen or legal resident.

Once he gets to my booth, he hands me his Mexican passport, visa, I-94 and Customs Declaration. Both, the I-94 and Customs Dec are not properly completed and the writing is poor, but he speaks good English. So he’s not well educated, but he’s learned to speak English. I also notice his hands are clean and nails manicured. He’s got money and does not do manual labor.

At this point, I’ve already concluded that he’s living and working here, but I continue my inspection to make sure.

He states he’s coming to visit a friend for a month. The friend lives in Seattle. I ask for return tickets and he produces them. The return ticket is for one month out. He also does not appear nervous. Both work in his favor, but the whole picture does not jive.

Next, I ask him when he was last in the US. He now gets nervous. He states he was here last May. I ask how long he stayed and he stumbles over his answer, and comes up with “a month or 2”. At this point, I’ve already made the decision to send him back, because I know he’s lying about something.

Next, I actually open and examine his passport. I find his US entry stamp from May and I also find and entry stamp from Mexico, which is rare, as most Mexican Immigration Officers won’t stamp a passport. The exit stamp is for the middle of August. Now I’ve got evidence that he’s lied to me, which in itself make the guy inadmissible.

As required, I take his finger prints and photo and send him back to secondary for further examination. As it turns out, he’s living with some rich American in Seattle. He cleans the guy’s house and maintains the yard for $100 a month.

So, we cancel his visa, do an Expedited Removal order and put him on the next plane to Mexico.

The primary examination took about 1 minute.

These people should be used, as has been suggested, to build border walls. Tent-cities can be moved as necessary.[/quote]


This is what I am talking all the way .
Why do we have so much free labor coming to US every day and instead of using them at least for 3 months for the first offence and 6-12 months for the second etc - in the places we need them - like building the wall etc , we are releasing the illegals endlessly .
And if they / and Mexico gov / will not like when we make them work for free as a punishment - then they have to start helping us reinforcing the borders - because illegals are not just illegally crossing US borders , they illegally crossing their own Mexican borders at the same time

So, we cancel his visa, do an Expedited Removal order and put him on the next plane to Mexico.

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Marineinspector - you are doing a good job .
I only hope that this person will not wait until the night comes and simply crosses the unprotected border to be able to return to Seattle .

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Marineinspector - you are doing a good job.

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Thank you.

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I only hope that this person will not wait until the night comes and simply crosses the unprotected border to be able to return to Seattle .

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That's always a possibility and we try not to give it any thought, as it makes our job meaningless.

marineinspector -

Thanks also from myself as well. You are doing a most commendable job and it is noticed and appreciated.

I do feel for 'you guys' actually doing the work (eg. rank-and-file). The organizational 'disconnect' and maltreatment which is perpetrated by your upper management seems pretty outrageous at times. For sure, you should be treated better than recent history shows.
I'll call or write my US Rep. to lobby the cause.

That was interesting to hear your thought and process of a suspicious person....thanks for taking the time to share!

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marineinspector -

Thanks also from myself as well. You are doing a most commendable job and it is noticed and appreciated.

I do feel for 'you guys' actually doing the work (eg. rank-and-file). The organizational 'disconnect' and maltreatment which is perpetrated by your upper management seems pretty outrageous at times. For sure, you should be treated better than recent history shows.
I'll call or write my US Rep. to lobby the cause.

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Thank you, your support is appreciated by my fellow officers and my self.

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That was interesting to hear your thought and process of a suspicious person....thanks for taking the time to share!

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You're very welcome.

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He says that any one can pass very easy with no problem.

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Well, that's not entirely true; us CBP Officers are very adept at picking out citizens from non-citizens.

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That's exactly what he told me, that not those jornaleros, but anyone who would look decent, and knows how to act, they don't even check the passport. How difficult would it be to find a terrorist who could act as an American?

I really think that if you are doing that kind of work, you should not trust anyone. And let me tell you that this friend I'm talking about works for the government, he could not believe it.

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That's exactly what he told me

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I don't doubt that. But, just because he said it does not make it true. He’s basing his opinion on speculation.

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that not those jornaleros, but anyone who would look decent, and knows how to act,

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As I posted above, looking decent doesn't mean squat and acting is a forced physical and emotion state that is easily tripped up.

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How difficult would it be to find a terrorist who could act as an American?

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Very; you can't act like an American. Like any country, the citizens of America come in all shapes and sizes, all different races, all different attitudes, ect..

If you act, you have a very specific part and with some probing, the holes can be found.

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they don't even check the passport.

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If a highly trained and funded terrorist were to attempt to enter the US, through a port of entry, his documents would be completely valid and impeccable.

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I really think that if you are doing that kind of work, you should not trust anyone.

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We don't trust anyone and we don't trust any documents. Everything is suspect, until we are satisfied.

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And let me tell you that this friend I'm talking about works for the government, he could not believe it.

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The TSA guys work for the Government, and I can't believe it!