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    Mexican Presidential Race Kicks Off ... in Los Angeles

    Monday, Aug. 22, 2005 11:59 a.m. EDT
    Mexican Presidential Race Kicks Off ... in Los Angeles

    The leading contenders for the presidency of Mexico plan to launch their 2006 campaigns this fall – in Los Angeles.

    Last month Mexicans living in other countries were given the right to vote by mail, beginning with next year’s presidential election, and the candidates are seeking to woo support from Mexican immigrants in the U.S.

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    But they will have to begin their campaigning in the U.S. early because Mexican laws bar campaign appearances outside the country after candidates are selected this fall.
    There are an estimated 10 million adult Mexicans living in the U.S., and about a third are eligible to vote in the Mexican election, according to the Los Angeles Times.

    The leading contender for president is Andres Manual Lopez Obrador, the former mayor of Mexico City. His campaign lieutenant first spoke of a visit to Southern California in July during the inaugural of Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa.

    If Obrador visits on September 15, Mexico’s Independence Day, "we’ll have at least 100,000 people� lining the streets to see him, said Felipe Aguirre, former California chairman of Obrador’s Democratic Revolution Party (PRD).

    Roberto Madrazo and Arturo Montiel, who are seeking the nomination of the Institutional Revolutionary Party (PRI), both plan to visit Los Angeles this fall.

    The PRI held the presidency in Mexico for 71 years before losing in 2000 to Vicente Fox of the National Action Party (PAN). Mexico allows only one 6-year term, so Fox must step down next year.

    He is supporting Santiago Creel, his former interior minister. Creel hasn’t said if he’ll come to California, but PAN’s president Manuel Espino will visit Los Angeles this month, the Times reports.

    Long-time immigrant Jose Angel Gonzalez of Norwalk, Calif., supports the PRI. He said most of his friends in the U.S. back some form of amnesty for Mexicans living illegally in this country, and he would like Madrazo to discuss the issue with President Bush.

    "People who are here aren’t going back, and employers need cheap labor,� said Gonzalez.

    "Let’s have temporary work permits for three months, six months, a year. If they’re good citizens, then give them a chance to apply for a green card. That would take away the money in smuggling people across the border, and fewer people would die in the desert.�

    Aguirre of the PRD said front-runner Obrador has "never been a champion of immigrant rights, but he may come around now because of the campaign. If he wins over the migrants, that popularity could pull a lot of votes in Mexico.�
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    Amendment I
    Congress shall make no law . . . abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.


    "the right of the people peaceably to assemble" are the rights of the CITIZENS AND STATES ---- NOT MEXICAN NATIONALS CAMPAIGNING FOR THE PRESIDENCY OF MEXICO
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    QUOTE: Long-time immigrant Jose Angel Gonzalez of Norwalk, Calif., supports the PRI. He said most of his friends in the U.S. back some form of amnesty for Mexicans living illegally in this country, and he would like Madrazo to discuss the issue with President Bush.

    "People who are here aren’t going back, and employers need cheap labor,� said Gonzalez.

    Excuse me, Jose Angel Gonzalez, are you legal or illegal? Or is that of zero importance where you come from. Madrazo isn't going to be able to get anywhere with 87-90% of the LEGAL American citizens telling the president of "our country" "NO."

    As far as saying people here aren't going back.....don't bet your last illegal dollar on it. Even George Bush, self proclaimed President of the World, would not be able to guarantee you that. And remember, Jose, the President of the World does not serve forever!!

    Last, but not least, although EXTREMELY important for you, the latest news from Washington is that IF there were to be a guest worker program, illegals would have to return to their home country in order to even apply. That is being seriously discussed, Jose, so slow down there on your predictions and statements. Anyone can say anything, what matters are the facts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LegalUSCitizen
    QUOTE: Long-time immigrant Jose Angel Gonzalez of Norwalk, Calif., supports the PRI. He said most of his friends in the U.S. back some form of amnesty for Mexicans living illegally in this country, and he would like Madrazo to discuss the issue with President Bush.

    "People who are here aren’t going back, and employers need cheap labor,� said Gonzalez.

    Excuse me, Jose Angel Gonzalez, are you legal or illegal? Or is that of zero importance where you come from. Madrazo isn't going to be able to get anywhere with 87-90% of the LEGAL American citizens telling the president of "our country" "NO."

    As far as saying people here aren't going back.....don't bet your last illegal dollar on it. Even George Bush, self proclaimed President of the World, would not be able to guarantee you that. And remember, Jose, the President of the World does not serve forever!!

    Last, but not least, although EXTREMELY important for you, the latest news from Washington is that IF there were to be a guest worker program, illegals would have to return to their home country in order to even apply. That is being seriously discussed, Jose, so slow down there on your predictions and statements. Anyone can say anything, what matters are the facts.

    ... under the Constitution the President and Congress are the "servants" NOT the master of the people . . we are not a dictatorship nor a democracy -- we are a REPUBLIC . . .

    under that same Constitution, neither Congress nor the President has the authority to grant amnesty or entertain petitions from "aliens" --- petitioning the government for redress is a right of CITIZENS not aliens . .
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    Aguirre of the PRD said front-runner Obrador has "never been a champion of immigrant rights, but he may come around now because of the campaign. If he wins over the migrants, that popularity could pull a lot of votes in Mexico.�
    Am I reading this right? One of their campaign issues are not how they can improve things for their people inside their country but to improve things for them here? That is just amazing.....

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    He is supporting Santiago Creel, his former interior minister. Creel hasn’t said if he’ll come to California, but PAN’s president Manuel Espino will visit Los Angeles this month, the Times reports
    I have a real problem with ALL of this --- by what authority are they campaining in California? I guess it really is LOS ANGELES, MEXICO!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamie
    He is supporting Santiago Creel, his former interior minister. Creel hasn’t said if he’ll come to California, but PAN’s president Manuel Espino will visit Los Angeles this month, the Times reports
    I have a real problem with ALL of this --- by what authority are they campaining in California? I guess it really is LOS ANGELES, MEXICO!!
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