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    KY lawmakers diverge on illegal immigration

    Kentucky lawmakers diverge on illegal immigration
    By ROGER ALFORD - Dec 30, 2010 4:00 PM ET By The Associated Press

    FRANKFORT, Ky. (AP) — House and Senate lawmakers don't agree on how to deal with illegal immigrants living in Kentucky.

    Republican Senate President David Williams is pushing a proposal that would allow police to arrest illegal immigrants on trespassing charges for setting foot in Kentucky. Democratic House Speaker Greg Stumbo is endorsing legislation that would require employers to check the citizenship status of people before making hiring decisions, saying if illegal immigrants won't stay in Kentucky if they can't get jobs. Illegal immigration is being billed as one of the top issues Kentucky lawmakers will confront during the 2011 legislative session that begins Tuesday.

    Williams, who is seeking his party's nomination to run for governor, said the immigration proposal Senate Republicans are pushing would be similar to a law passed in Arizona that allows police to determine the immigration status of people they detain. It also would allow illegal immigrants to be charged with criminal trespass if found on public or private property in the state. And it would make it illegal to harbor or transport illegal immigrants.

    The Rev. Patrick Delahanty, head of the Catholic Conference of Kentucky, questioned Thursday why Kentucky would want to "clone" the controversial Arizona measure that is being challenged in court and that could cause Kentucky's already crowded jails to overflow. "It's not needed at all," Delahanty said. "There's no pressing problem here."

    The Kentucky Long-Term Policy Research Center estimated last year that Kentucky has about 30,000 illegal immigrants. People involved in the debate, however, say the estimate is conservative, suggesting the actual number is at least twice that. Delahanty complained that the federal government has failed states by not adequately dealing with immigration. As a result, state lawmakers across the country have been taking on the problem.

    Stumbo told reporters earlier this week that police already are authorized to check a person's citizenship status and take appropriate action. He said he would prefer legislation that holds companies accountable if they hire illegal immigrants. "If you really want to solve the immigration issue, then you make the burden on the employers, because if the jobs aren't here, neither would the illegal immigrants be here," Stumbo said.

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    Re: KY lawmakers diverge on illegal immigration

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    Republican Senate President David Williams is pushing a proposal that would allow police to arrest illegal immigrants on trespassing charges for setting foot in Kentucky.
    I like this part the most "NO TRESPASSING!"
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    what part of illegal do you NOT understand?

    Our Government, has allowed the invasion of 30 million criminals in direct violation of Article IV, Section IV of our Constitution. they force American tax payers to pay Billions to provide Welfare, Prison cells, Educate the invaders children, free medical care,massive document fraud, & are destroying our schools, hospitals, communities, culture while Robbing, Raping, Killing & Assaulting American Citizens WAKE UP PEOPLE!
    .youtube.com/watch?v=tsH8xvjTAlo
    .youtube.com/watch?v=Btj6IeOFkis&feature=player_embedded
    immigrationcounters.com/
    .ojjpac.org/memorial.asp
    .immigrationshumancost.org/
    .newswithviews.com/Wooldridge/frosty580.htm
    .youtube.com/watch?v=muw22wTePqQ
    .gopetition.com/petition/40860.html
    Every Non-representative including obama and holder need to be IMPEACHED! for not upholding the oath of office they swore to defend the Constitution! If these clowns were to do their job, this would all be a Moot point!
    Anchor babies and their criminal parents go, period, and cut the phony tears, you knew you were breaking the law when you crossed the border.

    Next shut down any business hiring illegal labor and confiscate all property belonging to the owner. Property will be sold at auction and the proceeds to pay for the massive deportation. Oh and owners go to jail.
    Got a better idea? Lets hear it!

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    Republican Senate President David Williams is pushing a proposal that would allow police to arrest illegal immigrants on trespassing charges for setting foot in Kentucky. Democratic House Speaker Greg Stumbo is endorsing legislation that would require employers to check the citizenship status of people before making hiring decisions, saying if illegal immigrants won't stay in Kentucky if they can't get jobs. Illegal immigration is being billed as one of the top issues Kentucky lawmakers will confront during the 2011 legislative session that begins Tuesday.
    Illegal invaders at a minimum tresspassers and should be treated as such. Every state in the country should impose similiar legislation to deal with these invaders!

    It looks as if Kentucky is getting it.
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    Re: what part of illegal do you NOT understand?

    Quote Originally Posted by stevo1
    Our Government, has allowed the invasion of 30 million criminals in direct violation of Article IV, Section IV of our Constitution. they force American tax payers to pay Billions to provide Welfare, Prison cells, Educate the invaders children, free medical care,massive document fraud, & are destroying our schools, hospitals, communities, culture while Robbing, Raping, Killing & Assaulting American Citizens WAKE UP PEOPLE!
    .youtube.com/watch?v=tsH8xvjTAlo
    .youtube.com/watch?v=Btj6IeOFkis&feature=player_embedded
    immigrationcounters.com/
    .ojjpac.org/memorial.asp
    .immigrationshumancost.org/
    .newswithviews.com/Wooldridge/frosty580.htm
    .youtube.com/watch?v=muw22wTePqQ
    .gopetition.com/petition/40860.html
    Every Non-representative including obama and holder need to be IMPEACHED! for not upholding the oath of office they swore to defend the Constitution! If these clowns were to do their job, this would all be a Moot point!
    Anchor babies and their criminal parents go, period, and cut the phony tears, you knew you were breaking the law when you crossed the border.

    Next shut down any business hiring illegal labor and confiscate all property belonging to the owner. Property will be sold at auction and the proceeds to pay for the massive deportation. Oh and owners go to jail.
    Got a better idea? Lets hear it!
    Yes and they need to put the employers and the illegal aliens they hired in the same facility in the same cell for the same period of time.
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    Re: KY lawmakers diverge on illegal immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by Watson
    Republican Senate President David Williams is pushing a proposal that would allow police to arrest illegal immigrants on trespassing charges for setting foot in Kentucky. Democratic House Speaker Greg Stumbo is endorsing legislation that would require employers to check the citizenship status of people before making hiring decisions, saying if illegal immigrants won't stay in Kentucky if they can't get job
    These guys ever hear of bi-partisanship?

    How about a bill that makes illegals stepping in kentucky on any property a tresspasser along with mandatory e-verify. That way e-verify finds them and we come in and collect em on criminal tresspass charges. If we find an illegal outside of that we get them on criminal tresspass and try and track down their employer to punish for breaking the law. Its a double winner both ways.

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    Re: what part of illegal do you NOT understand?

    Quote Originally Posted by stevo1
    Next shut down any business hiring illegal labor and confiscate all property belonging to the owner. Property will be sold at auction and the proceeds to pay for the massive deportation. Oh and owners go to jail.Got a better idea? Lets hear it!
    To quote Forrest Gump,"That's a fine idea!"
    Hope you don't mind I blued em' for ya!

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=tsH8xvjTAlo
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Btj6IeOFkis
    http://immigrationcounters.com/
    http://ojjpac.org/memorial.asp
    http://immigrationshumancost.org/
    http://newswithviews.com/Wooldridge/frosty580.htm
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=muw22wTePqQ
    http://gopetition.com/petition/40860.html
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    Re: what part of illegal do you NOT understand?

    Quote Originally Posted by stevo1
    Our Government, has allowed the invasion of 30 million criminals in direct violation of Article IV, Section IV of our Constitution. they force American tax payers to pay Billions to provide Welfare, Prison cells, Educate the invaders children, free medical care,massive document fraud, & are destroying our schools, hospitals, communities, culture while Robbing, Raping, Killing & Assaulting American Citizens WAKE UP PEOPLE!
    .youtube.com/watch?v=tsH8xvjTAlo
    .youtube.com/watch?v=Btj6IeOFkis&feature=player_embedded
    immigrationcounters.com/
    .ojjpac.org/memorial.asp
    .immigrationshumancost.org/
    .newswithviews.com/Wooldridge/frosty580.htm
    .youtube.com/watch?v=muw22wTePqQ
    .gopetition.com/petition/40860.html
    Every Non-representative including obama and holder need to be IMPEACHED! for not upholding the oath of office they swore to defend the Constitution! If these clowns were to do their job, this would all be a Moot point!
    Anchor babies and their criminal parents go, period, and cut the phony tears, you knew you were breaking the law when you crossed the border.

    Next shut down any business hiring illegal labor and confiscate all property belonging to the owner. Property will be sold at auction and the proceeds to pay for the massive deportation. Oh and owners go to jail.
    Got a better idea? Lets hear it!
    How about selling any property gotten by illegals just like drug dealers? They are, actually, obtaining things through illegal means. [edited]

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    Re: what part of illegal do you NOT understand?

    Quote Originally Posted by Watson

    How about selling any property gotten by illegals just like drug dealers? They are, actually, obtaining things through illegal means. [edited]

    Welcome to ALIPAC!
    I've been saying that for years. Soon as the first illegal act is commited assume everything else is profiting from illegal activities. Find an illegal deport them, confiscate all property and monetary assets even if this means they go home without 1 cent. It sure would help fill the defecit and the state budget gaps.

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    Sent the following email to Kentucky State Senator David L. Williams thanking him for standing with U.S. Citizens; I think it is important that the local Politicians realize that Citizens across the Nation appreciate their efforts:

    Senator Williams thanks for standing up for Kentucky and all United States Citizens and against the invasion of the ILLEGALS. You can not wait for the Federal Government to take ACTION, the struggle against ILLEGALS will have to be fought at the State and Local level if and until the Federal Government decides to Secure our Borders and Enforce our Immigration Laws!

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