Thread: Mexico warns Texas not to refuse its immigrants' babies U.S. birth certificates

Mexico warns Texas not to refuse its immigrants' babies U.S. birth certificates


Published August 27, 2015
Fox News Latino

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The Mexican government is warning that Texas’ denial of birth certificates for U.S. children born here to undocumented immigrants stands to imperil the relationship between Mexico and the Lone Star State.

The concern was raised in an amicus brief filed Monday evening to lend support to immigrants parents who sued Texas after being denied birth certificates for their U.S.-born children, even after showing their “matrículas,” the ID cards issued by the Mexican consulate to undocumented immigrants.

Mexico says the practice stands in stark contrast to the historical practice among countries to accept passports or other forms of ID to issue birth certificates.

[It] not only jeopardizes their dignity and well-being, but could threaten the unique relationship between Mexico and Texas, the Mexican government said in a brief tied to a lawsuit filed against the state by Texas Civil Rights Project and Texas Rio Grande Legal Aid.

The lawsuit, the Texas Tribune reported, was filed on behalf of six U.S. citizen children and their undocumented parents, who came from Mexico, Honduras and Guatemala. Other groups since have joined the suit.

A main point of contention is the all-out refusal at some county registrars offices to accept as a valid form of ID anything short of a U.S. visa or consulate ID card, the Tribune said.

The families who are suing say that Texas is violating the 14th amendment and that the state is superseding federal immigration laws.

Texas officials are claiming sovereignty issues and argue that the United States cannot fight them.

They long have said that consulate-issued identification cards are not considered reliable forms of ID.

The Mexican government is requesting that Texas be clear about what two forms of ID it will accept in order to give the children U.S. birth certificate.

“Our argument isn’t ‘yes matrícula, no matrícula,’” said attorney Jennifer Harbury, who represents the families, to the Tribune. “The argument is ‘what will you take that people can actually get?’ They have to take something. [The children] were born here. They are U.S. citizens.”

The amicus brief also claims that denying the children U.S. birth certificates blocks their claims to Mexican citizenship. A child born to Mexican parents has that right but must show proof of identity. Infringing on that is a violation of international law, the brief states.

Mexican Consulate officials argue that the matricula is, in many ways, more secure because it includes biometric technology, unlike the driver’s licenses in some states.

They say a parent’s undocumented status should not affect a child’s ability to obtain a birth certificate.

“We think that they are not immigration authorities,” he said. “The passport is the official way to identify oneself.”

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Mexico fights hard and has money to spend on lawsuits to make sure it's citizens get all they can get in the states.

I hope that Texas prevails against the threats and lawsuits from Mexico. Our federal government is worthless when it comes to illegal immigration and protecting our states and citizens from Mexico and its meddling.

If they don't have the Texas birth certificate, they can't get the welfare money....
Interfering With Import-Export, Anchor Baby Business – Mexico Warns Texas Not To Stand “Against Invasion By Child”

Posted on August 28, 2015
by Rick Wells



Exporting their population is big business in Mexico and they don’t like it when uppity governors start interfering with their income and the associated acquisition of the United States by invasion. They had a sweet deal going with Obama, Jeh Johnson and the open border fascists, a deal that Texas and Donald Trump are now forcing into the negative light of day.

The Texas Tribune, reported in a Tuesday article, that the thugocrats in Mexico have issued a warning to the State of Texas, that denying their citizens their supposed “right of invasion by birth” could imperil the relationship that state has with its parasitic neighbor to the south.

The Mexicans are so upset and perhaps more than a little worried, that they filed an amicus brief on Monday in support of a group of anchor baby parents, whose plans to strong-arm U.S. citizenship for their third-world peasant spawn have hit a snag. Texas has refused to issue birth certificates to foreigners born in their state despite being presented with worthless “Mexican matricula” ID cards.

Those ID’s are issued by the Mexican consulates as a means of establishing identification for lawbreaking invaders who are not able to get legitimate identification in the United States. They are issued upon what is at best a cursory verification of identity and information, one largely based upon the word of the recipient that the information is true and accurate. The stated purpose of the cards is to demonstrate that the bearer is a Mexican who is residing outside of their country, regardless of whether they are doing so legally or illegally.

Mexico is claiming that the refusal of Texas to accept the meaningless IDs and to exchange them for the prized American citizenship violates a longstanding practice of honoring passports “or other forms of ID” to issue birth certificates. That’s quite a broad argument they make, and one which needs to be challenged simply because of its absurdity if nothing else. That is a far different standard than the one Mexico holds itself to.

They argued, “[It] not only jeopardizes their dignity and well-being, but could threaten the unique relationship between Mexico and Texas.” That’s a unique arrangement not unlike the “unique” arrangement Mexico has with every other state in the nation, one in which they flood their peasants in and we subsequently provide them with a free ride which often includes undeserved citizenship for their children.

As for their dignity, the dignity of lawbreaking sponges that violate our laws in order to freeload on the backs of the American citizens should not be a concern. If they want dignity and respect, they can return home and work while they await the legal immigration process.

The lawsuit was brought by agitator organizations on behalf of six plaintiffs and has twice been amended. It now includes thirty parasitic families. One has to wonder, at what point do the deniers who continue to argue that Mexico is a friendly nation begin to recognize a hostile invasion when they see one?

The arguments made by those representing the invaders are based upon the interpretation of the 14^th Amendment as guaranteeing citizenship to anybody fortunate enough to have been geographically positioned within our borders at the time of their birth, regardless of the criminality which placed them there.

They argue that Texas has violated the 14th Amendment’s Equal Protection Clause by rejecting the often-fraudulent documents as well as the Supremacy Clause by enforcing federal immigration laws.

The Texas Attorney General sees things differently. In their representation of the Health Services Department, they have asked that the court dismiss the suit based upon the 11^thAmendment. That amendment reads, “The judicial power of the United States shall not be construed to extend to any suit in law or equity, commenced or prosecuted against one of the United States by citizens of another State or by Citizens or Subjects of any Foreign State.”

That could or at least should rule out federal intervention on behalf of foreigners in the issuance of Texas birth certificates, and without the issuance of a birth certificate stating the plaintiffs to be Americans, all plaintiffs are foreign nationals.

Texas cites their not having waived protection under the 11^th Amendment and its sovereign immunity provision, in their request for dismissal of the suit.

They also note that the State Health Services Department has never considered matricula cards to be a secure document for purposes of obtaining a vital record. Some counties had accepted them in the past, but the practice has since been discontinued.

The Mexican government is requesting that Texas clarify what forms of ID are acceptable, so they can help their citizens get on with the invasion.

Oddly and rather disingenuously, Mexico is also arguing that the failure on the part of Texas to issue American birth certificates prevents the children from being able to obtain their Mexican citizenship. It is unclear why Mexico couldn’t simply issue one of those cure-all magic matricula cards to each of their citizen children to correct that problem and then present them to themselves for a passport.

Maybe it’s because that is a phony argument and it’s all really about the invasion, period.
http://rickwells.us/interfering-with...sion-by-child/

Granting of citizenship is a completely domestic matter and Mexico needs to withdraw its amicus brief from the lawsuit or face the biggest fvcking boycott in the history of the planet.

You see that something is or have reason to believe something has been made in Mexico, don't buy it.

Only 2 counties in Texas are refusing to accept Mexican IDs for parents to get the birth certificates for their American born kids.
There are 254 counties in Texas.

1. 254 counties
2. List of counties in Texas. The state of Texas is divided into 254 counties, more than any other U.S. state. Texas was originally divided into municipalities, a unit of local government under Spanish and Mexican rule.

List of counties in Texas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_counties_in_TexasWikipedia

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. . . According to the lawsuit, the women who requested birth certificates for their children at the state’s vital statistics offices in Cameron and Hidalgo counties were turned away because of insufficient proof of their identities. State law allows the use of a foreign ID if the mother lacks a Texas driver’s license or a U.S. passport.

But employees at the offices, which are run by the Texas Department of State Health Services, told the women they would no longer accept either the matricula consular, which is a photo ID issued by the Mexican Consulate to Mexican nationals living in the U.S., or a foreign passport without a current U.S. visa. Undocumented Central American women are also being turned away because they only have a passport without a U.S. visa. “They are locking out a huge chunk of the undocumented immigrant community,” says Harbury. . .
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Correction: The story originally stated that vital statistics offices in Cameron and Hidalgo counties are run by employees of the Texas Department of State Health Services. The offices are run by city and county officials. The Observer regrets the error.

http://www.texasobserver.org/childre...d-citizenship/

@ http://www.alipac.us/f12/texas-officials-refuse-birth-certificates-citizen-kids-illegal-aliens-319857/

GO TEXAS! And someone needs to find out why those 2 stupid counties aren't joining all the rest in this effort. Republicans in every "red state" need to demand their states join with Texas and stop issuing birth certificates.

By the way, how does a "county" issue a State certified birth certificate to begin with? I thought the states did this, not counties.

The 2 counties are the ones not issuing birth certificates to Mexicans and being sued.
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. . . According to the lawsuit, the women who requested birth certificates for their children at the state’s vital statistics offices in Cameron and Hidalgo counties were turned away because of insufficient proof of their identities.

State law allows the use of a foreign ID if the mother lacks a Texas driver’s license or a U.S. passport...

Originally Posted by JohnDoe2

The 2 counties are the ones not issuing birth certificates to Mexicans and being sued.
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. . . According to the lawsuit, the women who requested birth certificates for their children at the state’s vital statistics offices in Cameron and Hidalgo counties were turned away because of insufficient proof of their identities.

State law allows the use of a foreign ID if the mother lacks a Texas driver’s license or a U.S. passport...

Oh, so the other 254 counties are still accepting foreign ID for birth certificates, but the state of Texas is refusing to issue certified birth certificates in response to those applications?

Originally Posted by Judy

Oh, so the other 254 counties are still accepting foreign ID for birth certificates, but the state of Texas is refusing to issue certified birth certificates in response to those applications?

NO. Only 2 counties are refusing to issue birth certificates. The state isn't involved in the lawsuit. Only 2 counties.

State law allows the use of a foreign ID if the mother lacks a Texas driver’s license or a U.S. passport...