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    75% Evangelical Denominations DON'T Sign Pro-Amnesty Documen

    GOOD NEWS: 75% of Evangelical Member Denominations DON'T Sign NAE's Pro-Amnesty Document

    By Roy Beck,
    Wednesday, October 21, 2009, 4:40 PM EDT

    Sen. Chuck Schumer's (D-N.Y.) attempt to claim overwhelming evangelical Christian support for his pending amnesty legislation has crumbled. His master plan was to use the staff and leadership of the National Association of Evangelicals (NAE) to give the impression of near unanimity.

    But now it turns out that 75% of the NAE's member denomination will not sign up for the pro-amnesty crusade.

    NAE & SEN. SCHUMER TRIED TO CREATE IMAGE OF SOLID EVANGELICAL AMNESTY SUPPORT

    Early this month, the NAE tried its best to help Schumer in its Senate testimony and press releases to give the appearance of evangelical unanimity.

    But after the members in the pews erupted, only 11 of the 42 NAE member denominations have been willing to sign on to endorse the NAE resolution that the NAE president presented in support of Schumer's "comprehensive immigration reform" agenda.

    The NAE’s plunge into the amnesty debate stirred an immediate torrent of phone calls, faxes, emails and letters to the NAE member denominations. Many of the denominations have already posted disavowals on their websites, stating that they did not sign on to the NAE immigration document that was presented to the U.S. Senate by the NAE president, and that they have no intention of getting involved in the political amnesty debate.

    However, some of the signers of the NAE document have come out swinging in defense of their actions.

    HERE ARE THE SIGNERS OF THE PRO-AMNESTY ENDORSEMENT

    According to the NAE website, the signers of the document are these:

    Assemblies of God -- Phone: 417-862-2781 -- Toll Free: 1-877-840-4800 -- Fax: 417-862-8558 -- Email: Info@ag.org, General Superintendent GeneralSuperintendent@ag.org, or from this page: http://ag.org/top/contact.cfm
    Church of the Nazarene -- Phone: 913-577-0500 -- Fax: 913-577-0848 -- E-mail from this page: http://nazarene.org/contactus.aspx
    Christian Reformed Church in North America -- Phone: 616-241-1691 or toll free 1-877-279-9994 ---- Fax: 616-224-0803 --- E-mail: crcna@crcna.org
    Church of God (Cleveland, Tenn.) -- Phone: 423-472-3361-- Fax: 423-478.7066 -- Email from this page: http://churchofgod.org/contact
    Elim Fellowship -- Phone: 585-582-2790 -- Fax: 585-624-1229 -- E-mail from this page: http://www.elimfellowship.org/content/s ... page_id=46
    Foursquare Church -- Phone: 1-888-635-4234 -- Fax: 213-989-4590 -- Email from this page: http://www.foursquare.org/contact/
    Grace Communion International -- Phone: 1-800-423-4444 -- Email: info@gci.org
    International Pentecostal Holiness Church -- Phone: 405-787-7110 -- Fax: 405-789-3957 -- Email: info@iphc.org
    Missionary Church -- Phone: 260-747-2027 -- Fax: 260-747-5331 -- Email: mcdenomusa@mcusa.org
    Vineyard USA -- Phone: 281-313-8463 -- Fax: 281-313-8464 -- Email: info@vineyardusa.org
    Wesleyan Church -- Phone: 317-774-7900 -- Email: information@wesleyan.org
    In addition, there is the:

    Brethren in Christ Church -- Phone: 717-697-2634 -- Fax: 717-697-7714 -- Email: bic@bic-church.org
    While not showing up as a signer, the Brethren's website proudly trumpets the denomination as voting for the pro-amnesty document. Like the websites of several of the signers, it erroneously says the NAE denominations were unanimous in support.

    I don't know when 25% became unanimous!

    Please feel free to contact all of the above churches to ask them why they believe that the illegal aliens holding 7 million U.S. jobs have more right to those incomes than the 7 million mostly less-educated Americans (disproportionately Black and Hispanic Americans) who unsuccessfully are seeking jobs in those same occupations.

    According to leaders of those denominations who have posted defenses of their actions on their websites, the Bible's commands to be welcoming and loving toward sojourners/aliens/foreigners/strangers is a requirement to provide U.S. citizenship to those illegal aliens who have not committed violent crimes and are willing to pay a fine.
    According to the leaders of those 11 denominations, the United States continues to suffer labor shortages throughout its economy, causing foreign workers to illegally enter this country to keep our economy humming.
    And they call for not only permanent work visas for the 7 million illegal foreign workers but also for great increases in the legal importation of foreign workers.
    It is as if the leaders of these 11 denominations have not heard of the jobs depression that has swept the United States, or as if the people in their churches have been untouched by it. The federal U-6 Unemployment Rate is nearly 20% (people actively looking for jobs, discouraged workers who recently gave up looking, and people seeking full-time jobs who have had to settle for part-time work).

    A BLOW TO SEN. SCHUMER'S MASTER PLAN

    This business about what evangelical denominations are doing is far bigger than just a religion story. This is about Sen. Schumer's master plan to pass an amnesty.

    When Sen. Schumer took over as Senate leader of the pro-amnesty movement from the late Sen. Ted Kennedy, he made it clear he was going to do some things differently.

    After all, Kennedy -- after winning 7 amnesties from 1986 through 2000 -- had failed every year from 2001 to 2009 to pass the amnesty he was seeking.

    Schumer this summer made clear three ways he was going to be different and attempt to win on amnesty:

    He would convince the public that he saw illegal immigration like they did -- as a problem. He started calling the "undocumented workers" by the name of "illegal aliens."
    He would in some ways appear to want to be tougher for enforcement than most of us in the anti-amnesty groups. He started talking about a national bio-metric ID card.
    And he began talking about bringing on an entirely new group of amnesty promoters as pro-amnesty partners -- evangelical Christians.
    When I testified before the Senate Judiciary Committee last summer, Schumer surprised me by using his time for questions talking about all the support he was getting from major evangelical leaders. He clearly has been putting a lot of hope in what the evangelicals could do for passing amnesty this time.

    So, we all owe a huge debt of gratitude to all the NumbersUSA members who happen to be evangelical who have helped their denominations to avoid being used by Schumer for such destructive purposes.

    HERE ARE NAE DENOMINATIONS WHO DID NOT SIGN PRO-AMNESTY DOCUMENT

    Anglican Mission in America
    Christ Community Church

    Christian Union
    Churches of Christ In Christian Union
    Conservative Congregational Christian Conference

    Conservative Lutheran Association
    Converge Worldwide
    Evangelical Assembly of Presbyterian Churches

    Evangelical Congregational Church
    Evangelical Friends Church International
    Evangelical Presbyterian Church

    Evangelical Free Church of America
    Every Nation Churches
    Fellowship of Evangelical Churches

    Free Methodist Church of North America
    General Association of General Baptist
    Great Commission Churches

    International Fellowship of Christian Assemblies
    International Pentecostal Church of Christ
    Open Bible Churches

    Presbyterian Church in America
    Primitive Methodist Church USA
    Reformed Presbyterian Church of North America

    The Brethren Church
    The Christian & Missionary Alliance
    The Evangelical Church

    The Salvation Army
    Transformation Ministries
    United Brethren in Christ

    US Conference of the Mennonite Brethren Churches

    For those of you who members of one of these denominations, we at NumbersUSA need a couple of things:

    Please let us know if you see any sign of the denomination moving toward supporting amnesty.
    Give your leaders a pat on the back but warn them that the NAE leaders are not doing them any favors in the PR department.
    A DELIBERATE ATTEMPT TO DECEIVE?

    A northeast radio host asked me today if the NAE president was just plain lying when he testified before the Senate. My answer was that the Rev. Leith Anderson didn't lie but probably got caught up in the presence of political power and devised his answer to be as pleasing to Sen. Schumer as possible.

    After Rev. Anderson introduced himself as representing 40 evangelical denominations, Sen. Schumer asked him how much support there was for the NAE call to turn most illegal aliens into U.S. citizens. Rev. Anderson gave the strong impression that the 40 denominations were unanimous when he answered: “We actually had a vote today on this resolution with leaders in the National Association of Evangelicals and there was no dissent . . . On the board, there are 75 who represent the heads of denominations.â€
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    If they are not for us they are against us.
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    Whatever happened to separation of church and state? Any religious organization who attempts to influence policy should not be receiving taxpayer funds and should be paying taxes.
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