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    Quote Originally Posted by stoptheinvaders View Post
    I don't believe, but apparently their friend Trump the Master Con Artist does, his BP even goes around the fence to help the invaders in, while Trump gets his followers all pumped about building a wall.
    I was never a fan of a wall, but I do like the new tall fence design with the spikes on top.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    If you want to call it aid, that's fine. It's a type of funding I have no problem with so far, and you've provided no reason to oppose it. I don't know why we have all these FBI, DEA and HSI operations in these foreign countries, but they've been there a long time.

    If they implemented Judy's Plan B, they probably wouldn't need any of it and could phase it out.

    I provided reason in post and you even quoted my reason, if you would only read

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    Why are we funding law enforcement operations in those countries, when we don't have enough ICE to round up and deport from our own, enough BP since the invaders are now having to wait in line for the UBER Welcome Wagon.
    I'll make it real simple, the US is 22 trillion in debt, too broke to fund our own country.
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    Then go attack the FBI, DEA and HSI. They're the ones who have sold the Congresscritters on the programs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    I was never a fan of a wall, but I do like the new tall fence design with the spikes on top.
    Figures that you would like a slated fence where the drug cartels can pass their product, money and payoffs right through. Furthermore, I question the efficiency of those points at the top of his fence. We're trying to stop people, not elephants and dragons! Seems to me some folks could squeeze right between the slates where the points are or maybe throw a heavy blanket, bucket or cup right over the so-called spikes because I doubt they will be honed to a needle point. Personally, I think Trump has been watching too many medieval movies.

    Trump campaigned on and promised us a 30-ft rebar reinforced concrete wall. Instead we end up with practically the same thing that was already on portions of the border.

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    Trump wants border wall painted black, with sharp spikes on top

    By Amanda Woods and Nikki Schwab

    May 17, 2019 | 12:05pm | Updated

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    President Donald Trump has a very specific vision for his proposed border wall with Mexico — paint it black, and put sharp spikes on the top, according to a new report.

    The “wall” will in fact be a steel bollard fence and not a concrete barrier as Trump had promised since his campaign days — and although he’s OK with that, he’s been quite bold in laying out his guidelines, the Washington Post reported Thursday.

    The bollards — which the president refers to as “slats” — should be painted “flat black” so they would absorb heat in the summer, rendering them too hot for anyone attempting to climb the fence, Trump recently told White House aides, Homeland Security officials and military engineers, according to the report.

    A White House insider confirmed to The Post that Trump believes a “flat black” wall would deter border crossing.

    Trump is unwavering on that front — despite warnings that painting the barrier would escalate construction costs and maintenance budgets.

    “Once you paint it, you always have to paint it,” an administration official told the paper.

    The president has also rejected a design that depicted the fence topped by a rounded-barrel-like metal cylinder to prevent climbing, a former official told the outlet. He’s approved designs that include a flat-panel anti-climbing surface that has been field-tested, but he’s not entirely happy with those either, according to the report.

    He prefers a barrier with sharp spikes, that would appear more intimidating.

    The metal spikes would cut through the hands of climbers and do a better job of deterring them, Trump told a group of aides, according to the report.

    He’s also been known to change his mind about the height of the fence, insisting that it be as tall as possible — though engineers have raised concerns about the expense, and the structural integrity, officials told the outlet.

    Specifically, his request that the wall be a staggering 30 feet — much taller than the 15- to 18-foot range Customs and Border Protection officials previously agreed to — led to a significant alteration in the design.

    He’s also demanded that the structure not only be intimidating for climbers, but pleasing to the eye.

    “He thinks it’s ugly,” another administration official familiar with Trump’s opinions told the paper.

    Trump sees himself as a builder, but his level of building knowledge can only go so far, former Homeland Security official David Lapan told the paper.

    “But building high-rises in New York City is not the same as putting up a barrier at the border,” said Lapan, who now serves as the vice president of communications at the Bipartisan Policy Center. “You’re not looking for aesthetics; you’re looking for functionality.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by MW View Post
    Figures that you would like a slated fence where the drug cartels can pass their product, money and payoffs right through. Furthermore, I question the efficiency of those points at the top of his fence. We're trying to stop people, not elephants and dragons! Seems to me some folks could squeeze right between the slates where the points are or maybe throw a heavy blanket, bucket or cup right over the so-called spikes because I doubt they will be honed to a needle point. Personally, I think Trump has been watching too many medieval movies.

    Trump campaigned on and promised us a 30-ft rebar reinforced concrete wall. Instead we end up with practically the same thing that was already on portions of the border.
    Yeah, me and Border Patrol, we like the slated fences so you can see through them.

    Yes, painting the fences black would look really nice.
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    GREASE UP THOSE BARS WITH RED BEARING GREASE!

    PLANT CACTUS ON OUR SIDE FOR THE "ENVIRONMENT"!
    ILLEGAL ALIENS HAVE "BROKEN" OUR IMMIGRATION SYSTEM

    DO NOT REWARD THEM - DEPORT THEM ALL

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