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    Re: 'Nativist Lobby' is Winning on Immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by BetsyRoss
    January 15, 2011
    'Nativist Lobby' is Winning on Immigration
    By Mort Kondracke

    Tanton's groups are making use of economic hard times to argue that immigrants - legal and illegal - are stealing jobs from Americans and straining government budgets. It's largely bogus because immigrants tend to take jobs that Americans won't or can't do...

    [Lamar] Smith has indicated he wants to enact mandatory electronic verification of the citizenship of all new employees - a step that might lead to mass firing of undocumented workers.
    Actually illegals do jobs which traditionally have been done by blue collar people. Been there, done that. Americans might agitate for better working conditions, but that would benefit all employees.

    I haven't hear of any businesses closing because of having to replace illegals with Americans and legal residents.

    IMO he's right about the stalemate which will develop when 'Bama refuses to accept universal E-Verify and incresed worksite enforcement - which he'll try to condition on amnesty for illegals. Unless the economy improves so dramatically that unemployment and food stamp usage plummets, 'Bama could be his own One And Done. Smith and other Repubs just need to continue to say that they're trying to protect jobs for Americans.
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    2012 is going to be here before we know it.

    Every "conservative" candidate is going to have to be vetted to the max, and literally called on the carpet in public forums as to what their position across the board is on border security and actual plans to enforce the same,.....right down to actual physical boots on the ground on our southern border and defining and defending the 14th ammendment once and for all. The actual legislative action to finally correct this horrible illegal immigration mess and the physical implementation of that legislation is going to take serious intestinal fortitude. Anyone who thinks it is going to be easy is kidding themselves. This U.S. citizen does not want to live with compromise on the matter.

    Anything that the recently elected House proposes and passes is going to be vetoed by this 'piece of work' president. The 2012 election is going to be the showdown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by escalade
    2012 is going to be here before we know it.

    Every "conservative" candidate is going to have to be vetted to the max, and literally called on the carpet in public forums as to what their position across the board is on border security and actual plans to enforce the same,.....right down to actual physical boots on the ground on our southern border and defining and defending the 14th ammendment once and for all. The actual legislative action to finally correct this horrible illegal immigration mess and the physical implementation of that legislation is going to take serious intestinal fortitude. Anyone who thinks it is going to be easy is kidding themselves. This U.S. citizen does not want to live with compromise on the matter.

    Anything that the recently elected House proposes and passes is going to be vetoed by this 'piece of work' president. The 2012 election is going to be the showdown.


    well all i can say is hurry up get Obama the hell out & also janet & all the rest of them
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    Everytime these anti American activist writes their hateful vitrol agaisnt the majority of American so called Nativist more Americans join our fight.

    They are the ones out of step with what is best for our Beloved USA so what they say falls on deaf ears more and more. We are Over It !!
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    In May 2010, Gordon announced he had received 5,000 threats - some of violence and death - for opposing S.B. 1070.
    Is that really true? Of course, many people were POed at him, but come on, really? 5,000 death threats?

    I wouldn't put it past either one of them to lie in an effort to make their position seem more credible.

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    These numbers they're reporting really wouldn't surprise me. Think about all the people who have been harmed, damaged, impoverished, unemployed, underemployed, murdered, raped, assaulted, killed n automobile accidents, taxed and cheated out of their businesses by illegal aliens, and you're in the millions and millions of Americans who have a direct legitimate beef with the lawmakers and government officials responsible for allowing illegal aliens to both enter and remain in our country to cause this harm, damage, loss of livelihood and loss of lives. Each one of those millions and millions directly impacted have friends and relatives who are also impacted because they love their family and friends and see the unfairness, the injustice and the terrible wrongs being inflicted upon those they care about by illegal immigration and watch year after year our government do nothing to stop it or right these terrible wrongs.

    When you've lost your landscaping business to an illegal alien, when you've lost your job to an illegal alien, when you've lost the life of a child, a father, a mother, a sister, a brother or a friend to an illegal alien, when you've lost an identity to an illegal alien, when you've lost your wages or hours to an illegal alien, when you've lost a seat in college to an illegal alien, when you've lost a future to an illegal alien, when you've watched as millions and millions of Americans have lost their dream to illegal aliens, Americans will not stand for it and every other American needs to comprehend that fact. When it was a little problem somewhere else and didn't affect millions and millions of Americans, then with plates full and attentions pre-occupied, traitors and sleeze ball politicians could sell US out and get by with it.

    But today, with numbers of illegal aliens ranging from 12 million to over 30 million plus their offspring, there is no way Americans are going to tolerate this and while death threats most certainly aren't the politically correct or even appropriate response, giving these pond scum remnants who are responsible for this disaster a good piece of your mind and voting them out of office most certainly is.

    Our politicians need to remember that Americans don't want to be upset with our government or even any of the politicians or government workers that comprise our government. We want our politicians and government officials to do their job, protect, defend and promote the best interests of US citizens. When you betray the citizens of your own country the way that the proponents of illegal immigration have done, you'd have to be an imbecile or mentally defective to think Americans are going to continue to let you do that. If the 2010 elections didn't make that clear, then I hope and pray the 2012 elections make it crystal clear and in a manner they never forget that you will not be allowed to sell out the American People or sell off the United States.

    That party is over. It really is. If you want to be a politician chqsing Hispanic votes instead of American votes, then have at it, but you won't win. And you won't win because you forgot the cardinal rule of being an American, it doesn't matter what race or ethnic origin you came from, once you're an American, you will pursue the best interest of your own family, your own livelihoods, your own safety, your own happiness and illegal and excess immigration into the United States isn't part of that, it's the complete opposite. The only Hispanics wanting illegal immigration are illegal Hispanics who can't vote or Hispanic leaders being funded by foreign interests to lobby lies about Americans of Hispanic and Latino descent.
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    The failure of Congress and two presidents to enact immigration reform is plunging the nation into an ugly future.
    It's not the failure of Congress to enact immigration reform (aka amnesty)which is plunging the nation into an ugly future! Do you honestly believe most Americans are upset that Congress did not reward those who entered this country in violation of our immigration laws with amnesty? Talk about being out of touch!

    The fact is, we have upwards of twenty million illegal invaders in this country, demanding amnesty, when virtually the entire country is opposed to this outright theft of our citizenship and nation. The continued demands of the illegal invader lobby, (as well as politicians and political pundits like yourself) who choose to ignore the American people on this issue is what's plunging the nation into an ugly future!

    Perhaps what Mort should have said was the failure to cave into the demands of the illegal invader lobby may in fact plunge this nation into a an ugly future because of the tendency of these criminals to act out in an aggressive and violent manner if their demands of amnesty are not satisfied.

    That makes more sense!
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