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    NC-ACLU, county may be headed to court

    ACLU, county may be headed to court
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    May 26, 2009 - 4:51 PM
    Robert Boyer

    The American Civil Liberties Union of North Carolina and the Alamance County government appear headed for a court battle over how much the county wants to charge the ACLU for sheriff's office documents.

    The two sides failed to reach a compromise during a mediation session in Raleigh last week.

    County Attorney Clyde Albright, who's representing the sheriff's office, said the county is sticking by its offer to provide photocopies of two jail log books for $1,750, and charge 25 cents per page for thousands of copies of traffic citations and other documents.

    The ACLU wants the documents to try to determine, among other things, whether the sheriff's office is profiling Hispanics through its 287 (g) immigration enforcement partnership with the federal Bureau of Customs Enforcement.

    The 287 (g) program, named after the section of federal law that created it in 1996, authorizes federal authorities to train and deputize local lawmen and jailers as federal immigration and customs agents.

    A recent report by the ACLU and the UNC School of Law in Chapel Hill said 287 (g) programs in North Carolina "are being used to purge towns and cities of ‘unwelcome' immigrants" and encourage or "at the very least" tolerate "racial profiling and baseless stereotyping, resulting in the harassment of citizens and isolation of the Hispanic community."

    Sheriff Terry Johnson's 287 (g) program has been in place for just over two years and recently came under fire from community activists who have similar concerns.

    Johnson has said repeatedly his office isn't targeting Hispanics and is operating 287 (g) to the letter of the law.

    A study in April from Elon Professor Laura Roselle reported that sheriff's deputies had written 850 more citations over a five-year period that ended in 2008 than as reported by Sheriff Terry Johnson. Sheriff's Maj. Tim Britt more or less confirmed Roselle's numbers in a later report to the county commissioners, and said the sheriff's office's "grossly underreported" numbers were the result of computer issues, human error and a lack of internal controls.

    The commissioners have since passed a resolution supporting the sheriff and his use of the program.

    In a letter sent to Albright last week, ACLU Legal Director Katy Parker said no other Tar Heel sheriff's office or police department had charged her organization "more than $75 for the requested copies."

    Ten cents a copy is a reasonable charge, she says, one that more accurately reflects state law that mandates public bodies charge for "actual costs" and generally excludes charging for man hours, redacting and other such costs.

    Albright counters that state law provides exceptions for such large-scale and onerous redacting and copying and says 25 cents is the going rate for copies at a number of local and federal agencies.

    Despite the mediation attempt, the two sides appear to share little common ground judging from their most recent comments.

    Albright said the ACLU decided to "make an issue out of the copying" after looking at the traffic checkpoint reports in late April and concluding the sheriff's office wasn't profiling Hispanics. He also thinks, based on conversations with officials in Cumberland County, that the ACLU is requesting many more documents from Alamance County than from agencies elsewhere.

    Parker said she reviewed, but didn't study, the documents when she met with county officials and has made no such determination about profiling. The ACLU is treating the sheriff's office no different than any other agency, she added.

    Parker's letter to Albright also requests "a final written assessment of the exact amount" the sheriff's office will charge.

    The ACLU will pay the $1,750 for the cost of unbinding, photographing and rebinding the jail logs if the county "can prove its actual cost," Parker said.

    "Without such proof we have no other choice" than to litigate, she said.

    Albright is sticking to his price but offered an alternative. "We're not hiding anything. They can come down and look at every single page and write down what they want," he said. "I'm just trying to comply with the law."

    Parker is likewise sticking with her arguments, and says she will proceed with legal action if Albright fails to respond to her request to provide evidence of the actual costs by Tuesday, May 26.

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    Why is the North Carolina State Unemployment Offices not using E-Verify? The State Unemployment Offices are being allowed by the State to send illegal immigrants into the workplaces. If the State of NC had or would do the proper actions Alamance wouldn't be in a court battle with ACLU. ICE and elected officials in NC are lacking in their duties.

    But in Chatham County it is fine that American Citizens are being targeted for tickets to pay for the illegals in that county.

    We are under an invasion and our traitor elected officials do not care.
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    I really find it difficult to think that the ACLU or any other Elitist Special Interest Group have only the best interests of United States Citizens and the social interests of the ILLEGALS in mind. The Elitists are no more concerned about the ILLEGALS than they are of United States Citizens; JUST FOLLOW THE MONEY!

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    Iccat wrote
    The Elitists are no more concerned about the ILLEGALS than they are of United States Citizens; JUST FOLLOW THE MONEY!
    That's the bottom line.
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    The ACLU will fight Law Enforcement when they attempt to protect U.S. Citizens from the ILLEGALS but will be the first to defend the ILLEGALS for crimes they commit against U.S, Citizens!

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    There is a "commenter" on the source article named "middleground" pushing for "a path to Citizenship" for the ILLEGALS; his comment could have been a quote from Senator McAMNESTY.

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    Sorry for my ignorance bu at the Top of the source article next to the number of comments is a title "Recommended 7", what does that indicate?

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