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    This is truly a bizaare law. It can be found at http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/fa...01520160AB1461. What it does is automatically register to vote everyone who obtains a driver's license or ID card and is legally in the USA or accepted under the DACA program unless the person opts out. It also exempts anyone who is registered in this way from any punishment for registering and/or voting if the person is not legally eligible to vote.

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    It's just unbelievable what is going on. There are traitors in ouor midst.
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    "A quick visit to the DMV’s website reveals that besides passing written and road tests, recipients of new legal-resident drivers licenses must show a Social Security card and prove their “legal presence” in California and the nation.

    That proof can be a birth certificate, a passport, an immigration green card or even Border Patrol crossing cards and Mexican consular IDs.
    Only those whose identification proves they are eligible to vote will automatically be registered."
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    Motor Voter: Don't expect mass election fraud


    December 31, 2015 7:00 pm • Thomas D. Elias

    California’s new “motor voter” law has now taken effect, even if it’s not yet in massive use, and so far the sky has not fallen.

    That was the prediction from many Republicans the moment Gov. Jerry Brown signed the new measure into law last fall, with many GOP activists predicting it would lead to “state-sanctioned voter fraud” and flood the voting rolls with non-citizens.


    But it has not happened yet, and probably never will.

    That’s because the same rules that prevent undocumented immigrants from receiving the same type of California driver’s license as citizens or legal residents will apply to everyone automatically registered to vote during visits to Department of Motor Vehicles offices.

    The new law registers every eligible Californian who goes to the DMV to get a driver’s license or renew one. Once Secretary of State Alex Padilla has set up a specific procedure to be followed in all offices, every eligible person who doesn’t opt out will be registered. The opt-out option will be offered to everyone qualified to vote.


    The fears of many Republicans stem from the fact that many new driver’s license applicants today are Latinos and their participation rate in the last few elections has hovered just above 15 percent, the lowest for any ethnic group. Asian-Americans are next lowest.


    The GOP knows that Latinos who do vote have long gone mostly Democratic, one reason some Republicans give for opposing a path to citizenship for the undocumented. The subtext of that opposition is simple: Make citizenship available to undocumented Hispanic immigrants and then make voting easy for them and the existing huge Democratic voter registration pluralities in California and elsewhere will become even more pronounced.


    This is one reason Republicans in many other states have made voter registration, and voting itself, more difficult for everyone, requiring some kind of official photo identification before even registered voters can get a ballot to fill out.


    California’s new law also requires photo identification, something GOP critics of the new law – passed without Republican support in the Legislature – ignore.


    A quick visit to the DMV’s website reveals that besides passing written and road tests, recipients of new legal-resident drivers licenses must show a Social Security card and prove their “legal presence” in California and the nation.


    That proof can be a birth certificate, a passport, an immigration green card or even Border Patrol crossing cards and Mexican consular IDs. Only those whose identification proves they are eligible to vote will automatically be registered.


    That’s why Padilla could confidently say after Brown signed the new law that “We’ve built the protocols and the firewalls to not register people that aren’t eligible. We’re going to keep those firewalls in place.” In fact, they’ve been up for years.


    But the tea party and other conservative organizations that oppose making voting easier for eligible citizens ignore all this.

    “The law … will guarantee that non-citizens will participate in all California elections going forward,” Linda Paine, president of the Election Integrity Project of California, said. The new law, her website added, “facilitates non-citizens to register and vote with prosecutorial immunity and will break down the integrity of California’s election process to the point that it cannot be repaired.”


    But the DMV rules make it easy for any clerk to tell who’s an eligible voter, and Padilla promises the procedure he’s still setting up will ensure even more security.


    Registering to vote has always required showing some of the same documentation needed for a driver’s license. Forged versions of those documents are no easier or harder to obtain now than before. Which means that voter fraud – a negligible phenomenon in California up to now – figures to remain at about the same very low levels as ever.


    And yet, conservative Republicans who have long asserted – with no proof – that the undocumented vote in large numbers, insist there will be much more fraud. “This assures corruption of our elections,” Stephen Frank, former president of the California Republican Assembly, wrote on his blog. “Our elections will look like those of Mexico and other corrupt nations and honest people will stop voting since illegal aliens will outvote them.”


    In other words, Frank and other conservatives insist the sky is falling – but a quick look outside demonstrates that’s just not so.


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    What are our Senators and Congressmen doing about this? There have been stories of voter fraud in many states and no follow up or prosecution, same as our unlawfully broken immigration laws.
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    Quote Originally Posted by artist View Post
    What are our Senators and Congressmen doing about this? . . .
    Nothing because "Only those whose identification proves they are eligible to vote will automatically be registered." (From the article above.) Motor Voter: Don't expect mass election fraud
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnDoe2 View Post
    Nothing because "Only those whose identification proves they are eligible to vote will automatically be registered." (From the article above.) Motor Voter: Don't expect mass election fraud
    How do you know that? You'd have to study the data entries and the software to know that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnDoe2 View Post
    "Only those whose identification proves they are eligible to vote will automatically be registered."
    The article is wrong the law says,

    2263.

    (a) The Department of Motor Vehicles, in consultation with the Secretary of State, shall establish a schedule and method for the department to electronically provide to the Secretary of State the records specified in this section.
    (b) (1) The department shall provide to the Secretary of State, in a manner and method to be determined by the department in consultation with the Secretary of State, the following information associated with each person who submits an application for a driver’s license or identification card pursuant to Section 12800, 12815, or 13000 of the Vehicle Code, or who notifies the department of a change of address pursuant to Section 14600 of the Vehicle Code:
    (A) Name.
    (B) Date of birth.
    (C) Either or both of the following, as contained in the department’s records:
    (i) Residence address.
    (ii) Mailing address.
    (D) Digitized signature, as described in Section 12950.5 of the Vehicle Code.
    (E) Telephone number, if available.
    (F) Email address, if available.
    (G) Language preference.
    (H) Political party preference.
    (I) Whether the person chooses to become a permanent vote by mail voter.
    (J) Whether the person affirmatively declined to become registered to vote during a transaction with the department.
    (K) A notation that the applicant has attested that he or she meets all voter eligibility requirements, including United States citizenship, specified in Section 2101.
    (L) Other information specified in regulations implementing this chapter.


    The strange thing is that the DMV is required to certify that the every applicant has attested to being eligible to vote but doesn't require that any applicant actually do so.

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    . . . Some concern has been raised that Motor Voter will lead to voter fraud in the shape of illegal immigrants casting ballots. That’s a nonstarter. The DMV already screens out noncitizens who have AB 60 driver’s licenses. And, the DMV is prohibited from sending the Secretary of State records belonging to anyone who can’t satisfy voter eligibility requirements, including AB 60 applicants. . .


    CA. Motor Voter Act is a driving force

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