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    A New Nowhere Debate? by Victor Davis Hanson

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    A New Nowhere Debate? [Victor Davis Hanson]

    Now would be a particularly bad time for the president to push for amnesty under the rubric of comprehensive immigration reform — an approach that failed Bush, despite economic good times and supposedly a supportive base.

    With unemployment near 10 percent, with unprecedented violence pouring over the border, and with a divisive health-care debate not yet healed, why go down that road? Most of the arguments of the last century are now dated: Already we are seeing more Californians mowing their own lawns, and students as never before willing to take most jobs that come up. (Unemployment is near 20 percent in the interior of California and most are not picky about the few jobs out there.)

    The public is starting to correlate the massive amount of remittances sent back to Latin American (perhaps well over $40 billion) with commensurate rising public subsidies to illegal aliens, funded by the now-strapped taxpayer.

    And Mexico has become far more violent than Iraq, suggesting to most that the border should be less, not more, porous. Simply enforcing the law — finish the fence, keep fining employers, increased patrols on the border, push for verifiable IDs — will stop the flow. Those newly arrived, or in trouble with the criminal justice system, will at some point come to the attention of authorities, if the latter wish it. And long-term, illegal residents can apply for legal residency in ways the Congress at its leisure can fight over — once the border is secure and the powers of assimilation, integration, and intermarriage are allowed to work at last on a static, and soon to be shrinking, population.

    An amnesty bill at this time would be about the most divisive move imaginable.

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    Every talk show imaginable is talking about this latest amnesty push today! We need to keep the pressure on these politicians!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SicNTiredInSoCal
    Every talk show imaginable is talking about this latest amnesty push today! We need to keep the pressure on these politicians!
    Which ones, and what are they saying?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Populist
    Quote Originally Posted by SicNTiredInSoCal
    Every talk show imaginable is talking about this latest amnesty push today! We need to keep the pressure on these politicians!
    Which ones, and what are they saying?
    Jeff Kuhner, Michael Savage, Rick Roberts, Jerry Doyle, Alex Jones to name a few. I bet Mark Levin will be talking about this later.
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    Most of them are playing that sound bite of Gutierrez saying his illegals will stay home on voting day.
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    Thanks for the info SickNTired. I'm glad to hear talk radio is getting involved again to help inform people as to how very irresponsible this amnesty push is.

    It was just a couple of weeks ago that the Dept. of Homeland Security Inspector General testified that his agency could not properly handle millions of amnesty applications -- and this would cause the "mother of all backlogs."

    This, combined with our still porous border and high unemployment, are obviously minor concerns to the Democratic Party leadership.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Populist
    Thanks for the info SickNTired. I'm glad to hear talk radio is getting involved again to help inform people as to how very irresponsible this amnesty push is.

    It was just a couple of weeks ago that the Dept. of Homeland Security Inspector General testified that his agency could not properly handle millions of amnesty applications -- and this would cause the "mother of all backlogs."

    This, combined with our still porous border and high unemployment, are obviously minor concerns to the Democratic Party leadership.
    Believe me - the IA's here come up constantly on talk radio. It might not be the subject of the whole show, but it is usually in the fore front. I think it's just that there is SO MUCH being thrown at us by these godless dems that it is hard to keep up on everything, which is I'm sure just how they want it!
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