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    Nielsen says Central America to do more to curb caravans

    Nielsen says Central America to do more to curb caravans

    Photo: AP. Kirstjen Nielsen, Mauricio Ramirez Landaverde


    February 20, 2019 04:22 PM

    SAN SALVADOR, El Salvador (AP) — U.S. Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen said Wednesday that Central American nations have agreed to do more to stop migrant caravans and fight transnational crime.

    Nielsen spoke in El Salvador's capital during a meeting with her Central American counterparts to discuss a regional security plan to fight illegal human trafficking, organized crime and gangs, and expand intelligence sharing and fortify border security.

    She said the region is facing a humanitarian and security crisis, adding that "I want to thank my colleagues for their determination to increase cooperation with respect to caravans."

    She called on security ministers from El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras "to show a bold leadership to stop the formation of new caravans."

    In recent months thousands of Central Americans have moved in caravans toward the U.S. border. Those in the caravans repeatedly say they are fleeing violence and poverty and hope to apply for refugee status in the United States.

    "The caravans are a new phenomenon," Nielsen said. "We are working together to understand their purpose, their plans, and make sure that those who are vulnerable contained within them are protected."

    That was an apparent reference to migrants bringing children along on the caravans, in part because U.S. authorities have to quickly release them.

    "We all agree that enough is enough. We cannot allow children to continue to be exploited," Nielsen said.


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    Send all these "caravans" right back home including their UACs.

    They need to come up with a Comprehensive Plan for Reform to peace and prosperity.

    Load 'em up and move 'em out!

    ENOUGH IS ENOUGH AND IT HAS BEEN ENOUGH FOR OVER 50 YEARS!

    SEND THEM ALL BACK NOW.

    NIELSEN NEEDS TO SET UP A QUOTA AND BUS THEM, OR PUT THEM ON BARGES, BACK HOME!

    GET LOW RISK PRISIONERS OUT OF OUR JAILS AND SEND THEM BACK TOO!
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    I doubt these countries are doing much of anything to change their ways. Why should they? We make hollow threats. The president does not follow through or enforce his words.

    Crossings are successful for many hundreds of thousands to a million plus a year, some get caught, many don't. More keep coming.

    Mexican cartels control the border and it is obvious that the United States and Mexico are not truly really serious about ending the cartels reign of terror and power and smuggling of drugs and people. They are raking in the dollars.

    Corrupt law enforcement and politicians on both sides of the border and across the countries, even in anywhere, U.S.A. are on the take according to reports.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgiaPeach View Post
    I doubt these countries are doing much of anything to change their ways. Why should they? We make hollow threats. The president does not follow through or enforce his words.
    The US claims to be the most powerful country on earth, yet we can't STOP a group of 1,000 people with a few rock throwers in the crowd.
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    Put the screws to Mexico and Central America.

    VP Pence, DHS has been down there several times.

    Saying "pretty please" keep your people is not working. They laugh in YOUR face Kirstjen!

    PROCESS THEM AND BUS THEM ALL BACK!

    LET THEIR PRESIDENT PROTECT THEIR "VULNERABLE". WE HAVE OUR OWN TO PROTECT FROM THESE ILLEGALS!

    THEY DO NOT QUALIFY FOR ASYLUM.

    OVERBREEDING IN POVERTY, WANTING A "GOOD LIFE" AND VIOLENCE IN YOUR COUNTRY IS NOT OUR PROBLEM!
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    There are reports that the governments are encouraging their people to "migrate" for the future cash flows from remittances.
    If we cut off the foreign aid to these sending countries completely and blocked the remittance flow to them. These mobs would not come here. JMO

    From October 2018.

    October 18, 2018

    Illegal Caravans Encouraged by Honduras and Soros

    By Daniel John Sobieski
    Just in time for the midterms, another "spontaneous" migration from Central America began with a bevy of allegedly oppressed and downtrodden Hondurans leading the way. Pressured by a threat from President Trump to cut aid to Honduras, Guatemala, and El Salvador if the caravan is not stopped, some moves by these governments have been made. Yet evidence exists that these migrations are not spontaneous, with both of the governments in question encouraging them as a political and economic safety valve and a source of foreign currency, financed in part by foreign leftists with connections to George Soros.

    As Fox News's Laura Ingraham noticed in a tweet, this is not a walk in a national park, but an expensive and arduous journey:

    Who is funding the migrant "caravan"? Each migrant's passage can cost as much as $7K each. Per capita income Honduras is $2.3 K.
    It is doubtful that such sums came from the kiddies' college funds. Evidence of Soros funding of an earlier "spontaneous" migration have been found among the tentacles of support that flow from his Open Society group coffers:

    Leftist billionaire George Soros is funding the well-organized anti-Trump migrant caravan invasion from Central America that has been hitting the United States-Mexico border in defiance of immigration enforcement.

    Several major ultra-liberal foundations and corporations have supported the asylum-seeking migrant caravans, and Soros' funding has been tied to several groups that have spearheaded the "refugee" invasion coalition – also dubbed "the Soros Express."

    "The caravan is organized by a group called Pueblo Sin Fronteras, [b]ut the effort is supported by the coalition CARA Family Detention Pro Bono Project, which includes Catholic Legal Immigration Network (CLIN), the American Immigration Council (AIC), the Refugee and Immigration Center for Education and Legal Services (RICELS) and the American Immigration Lawyers Association (AILA) – thus the acronym CARA," WND reported. "At least three of the four groups are funded by George Soros' Open Society Foundation."

    The hands of the Honduran government are not clean in these efforts. Among the alleged asylum-seekers parked on the U.S. border is a contingent of Hondurans, allegedly fleeing persecution, poverty, crime, and oppression. If that is the case, why is the Honduran government helping them, driving them northward under orders given to the Honduran ambassador, who is helping and escorting them?

    Leaders of a caravan of Central American migrants traveling toward the United States through Mexico have repeatedly accused the Honduran government of corruption and with failing to address the poverty, crime and economic conditions forcing families to flee by the thousands.

    So it shocked some observers when the Honduran ambassador joined the migrants protesting outside the Honduran embassy in Mexico City on Wednesday, and then accepted their invitation to walk 9 miles to a migrant shelter.

    "I have been ordered by my government to support the Honduran migrants traveling with the caravan. There are about 200 Hondurans who we will help out with paperwork and whatever is necessary," Alden Rivera Montes, the Honduran ambassador to Mexico, told El Universal.

    Ordered by my government? Why is the country whose oppression they are allegedly fleeing helping them leave? The answer is remittances, the money sent back home by so-called "migrants." Asylum is in large part a colossal scam designed to provide Latin American countries with a political and economic safety valve and a cash cow of foreign exchange. In 2017, remittances sent back to Honduras totaled $4.33 billion and make up a significant part of the Honduran economy:

    Within the span of a few short decades, migrants have become an essential engine of economic support for Honduras. Remittances comprised 17 percent of the nation's gross domestic product (GDP) in 2011, according to World Bank estimates, the second largest share of any country in Latin America or the Caribbean. As such, Honduran emigrants have tremendous significance for the country's economy and for the sustenance of many otherwise impoverished communities and families.

    Talk about a trade imbalance. We import alleged asylum-seekers and other illegal aliens, and they send home billions sucked out of a benevolent U.S. government and economy. We have an economy that has some 7.3 million jobs going unfilled because of a shortage of skilled workers. Judging from photos of the latest caravan, one would suggest a paucity of welders, pipefitters, electricians, and long-haul truck-drivers.

    Inner-city blacks have long asked which country they get to go to to escape violence and poverty. Although President Trump is succeeding in fighting crime and increasing job opportunities in our urban areas, much remains to be done. We do not need to be importing low-wage and low-skilled competitors to American citizens to drive down poor workers' wages. Inner-city residents have long asked, where's our sanctuary?

    Unlike the children of Central America, arriving en masse, the children of Chicago, facing conditions every bit as horrible, have no border to cross to seek asylum or refuge[.] ...

    "Do something for our children," said one of the protesters in a video posted at the blog Rebel Pundit. "Have the same love for these young people like you got for the ones across the border, and you want to save them." ...

    A woman, identified only as Elaine, explained the plight of inner-city Baltimore residents on Laura Ingraham's radio show: "My children cannot play outside. I cannot take my trash out without locking the door – it's awful. Who is going to give us anything? Where can I get asylum? Where can I get refugee status?"

    Where, indeed? Perhaps this side of a border wall Democrats oppose in favor of sanctuary cities and Medicare for illegal aliens. If any of the alleged asylum-seekers want to learn a trade – how about a crash course in border wall construction? Build it, and they won't come.

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    MIGRANT CARAVAN
    Published 10 hours ago

    New migrant caravan forms as Mexican cities that border US keep swelling with asylum seekers

    By Griff Jenkins | Fox News

    CIUDAD JUAREZ, Mexico – Yet another caravan of more than 1,000 mostly Central American migrants has crossed Mexico’s southern border, according to officials. They clashed briefly with federal police and immigration agents (INM) but were able to overwhelm the officials and enter illegally.

    The new caravan begins the march north toward the United States as border cities like Ciudad Juárez are swelling with migrants already here from previous caravans – with more arriving from the closure of the shelter in Piedras Negras on Wednesday.

    There are two shelters here that are beyond maximum capacity, each holding more than 600 people. They give the migrants pink wrist bands marked with a number to wait their turn to apply for asylum at the El Paso ports of entry.

    NIELSEN URGES CENTRAL AMERICA TO STOP NEW MIGRANT CARAVANS


    A wheelchair-bound migrant named Jose whom we met in San Pedro Sula, Honduras on Jan 15 showed Fox News his number – 6,387. It’s unclear where they are in calling numbers. Jose guesses he may have to wait another three months before being called.


    A wheelchair-bound migrant named Jose whom we met in San Pedro Sula, Honduras on Jan 15 showed Fox News his number – 6,387. It’s unclear where they are in calling numbers. Jose guesses he may have to wait another three months before being called. (Fox News)


    Such pressures on U.S. border cities like El Paso, Texas, which is across from Ciudad Juárez, are evident in the number of apprehensions for illegal entry, which is up 478 percent this year. As of this week, there have been 43,238 apprehensions in the El Paso sector this fiscal year – compared to 7,481 at this same point last year, according to U.S. Customs and Border Protection.

    And migrants here are well aware of comments from Democratic 2020 hopefuls, like Beto O’Rourke, who have suggested tearing down parts of the El Paso wall.

    103 ILLEGAL ALIENS ARRESTED AT ARIZONA BORDER; CBP ALARMED AT UPTICK IN BORDER CROSSINGS BY LARGE GROUPS

    “I am very comfortable with that... If you ask many people here what they feel about that, they are going to say that’s very comfortable for everyone. Take the wall down,” said Randy Davidson from the Honduran island of Roatan.

    Randy says there is fear amongst the migrants here not only of immigration officials on the U.S. side but also of the threat from cartels in Ciudad Juárez, once one of the most violent cities in the world, which is seeing a six-year high in murders, with more than 1,200 last year. There were more than 100 killings last month.



    Migrants are issued pink wrist bands marked with a number to wait their turn to apply for asylum at the El Paso ports of entry. (Fox News)

    Meanwhile, a delegation of House Democrats led by Homeland Security Committee Chairman Bennie Thompson, D-Mississippi, will travel to El Paso on Thursday to tour CBP facilities and examine the situation on the border.

    On Wednesday, Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen met with Central American leaders in El Salvador to address the continuous formation of caravans and discuss the development of a “regional compact” and action plan aimed at addressing the “security crisis of irregular migration.”

    https://www.foxnews.com/world/new-caravan-forms-as-mexican-cities-that-border-us-keep-swelling-with-migrants



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