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Originally Posted by Sage
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The microprinting is a security feature (text that small would be difficult to reproduce).Quote:
Originally Posted by Sage
Does anyone actually know what information will be on these emblems / holograms? I heard on a talk show that the police can scan them when everything is set up. But what will it tell them? Could there be some kind of tracking device like in our cell phones in them? Just curious. I will be nuking mine today!
Why start in North Carolina with these cards? NC is known for giving
illegal aliens drivers' licenses. Sounds like somebody had a reason for picking NC!
And I thought that the purpose of the card was to identify without a doubt who was a citizen or legal to be in the country!
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And I thought that the purpose of the card was to identify without a doubt who was a citizen or legal to be in the country![/quote]
They lied about that, to achieve an ultimate objective. They (The Establishment insiders) also said that the passage of NAFTA, would reduce illegal immigration from Mexico dramatically, because it would transform Mexico's economy, and create a vibrant middle class there.
I sent in for a replacement DL and got one with the logo. Took a punch and a hammer to the logo. There won't be anything working in my logo! Should I run it through the microwave too? :D
Mine had the number A1112883 above the logo.
Guess I am going to have to get a new bicycle. I am definitely not going to renew my license.
http://www.aamva.org/NR/rdonlyres/66260 ... 2FINAL.pdf
Need to read the above.
http://www.graphicsecurity.com/images...
CT and OK Driver Licenses are using this technology.
Here is how I found it.
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"The goal of the North American hologram," Howell explained, "is to get one common element that law enforcement throughout the continent can look at on all driver's licenses and tell that the driver's license is an official document."
Um, wouldn't the outline of just the USA be what U.S. law enforcement would need if they wanted an "official" element common to all the states in the USA? Howell's comment sounds as though the NC-DMV has given official sanction to the NAU. Michael Medved has been ranting that only paranoid nutjobs think that the U.S. is planning to join a North American Union. I would love to hear him have a conversation with Ms. Howell.
Right now, illegal aliens are hardly even subject to U.S. law enforcement, but the NC-DMV is happily preparing for U.S. citizens to be subject to Mexican law enforcement? How were they convinced to become pod people?
I just called my grand daughter as she just got her license in July and she said it was not on it, but I am going to send this to all state legislatures and governor Otter!!
But then remember Idaho is the first state to send a letter to congress and the president and told them Idaho would not take part in the Real ID act. his letter is posted in the "state actions" on alipac under the Idaho thread!
If we do not make an issue out of this, they will force the states who are refusing it back in. We need more states fighting against this. If you are in NC, call your state reps and your members of congress and tell them no Real ID Compliance.
EVERYBODY NEEDS TO CONTACT THEIR STATE REPRESENTIVES AND GOVERNORS AND DEMANDSOMETHING BE DONE ABOUT THIS AND MAKE SURE YOUR STATE IS NOT TAKING PART IN IT.
this is one of the most important issue's of the century for this country it will be the destruction of our constitution and our sovereignty DO NOT DOUBT IT FOR ONE SECOND!!!
Orange Alerts!
STOP... REAL ID (NOW)
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If you didn't HAVE TO have a LICENSE to use your car to go to your place of worship or to the store to buy food, would you go get one?
Who in their right mind, and especially under the current circumstances, would answer YES?!
WE HAVE BEEN MISLEAD!
The LICENSE is EVIDENCE of the State's PERMISSION for the holder of the LICENSE to engage in BUSINESS. If you're not getting paid to go to the store to buy food then you're NOT IN BUSINESS.
Simply verify the LEGAL definition of LICENSE and you'll begin to understand the scam. We have been CONDITIONED to believe that NONcommercial TRAVEL requires a LICENSE. We have been CONDITIONED to use terms applicable to BUSINESS/COMMERCE to NONcommercial conduct.
TRAFFIC = COMMERCE
PASSENGER = SOMEONE WHO PAYS A FARE
TRANSPORTATION = COMPENSATED CONDUCT
DRIVER = AN EMPLOYEE, SOMEONE COMPENSATED or AUTHORIZED TO BE COMPENSATED
MOTOR VEHICLE = A DEVICE USED FOR COMMERCIAL PURPOSES
We have been lead to believe that COMMERCIAL USE and NONcommercial USE are the same thing. THEY ARE NOT. The court know the difference.
This case was decided by the California Supreme Court in 1914, IT HAS NEVER BEEN OVERTURNED!!!:
1. LICENSES (§ 5*) - CHAUFFEURS.
The occupation of a chauffeur is one calling for regulation and therefore permitting a regulatory license tax.
[Ed. Note. -For other cases, see licenses, Cent. Dig §§4, 19; dec. Dig. § 5*]
2. STATUTES (§ 81*) - SPECIAL LEGISLATION-CLASSIFICATION.
Dividing, as does St. 1913, p. 639, drivers of automobiles into two classes, one professional chauffeurs, and requiring them to obtain a license, and pay an annual fee of $2, the other embracing all others, who are not required to secure a license or pay a license fee, is sound classification and not arbitrary, so as to constitute special legislation.
Ex parte Stork (Cr. 1843), (Supreme Court of California. Feb. 24, 1914), 167 Cal. 294
Then in 2000 the US Supreme Court had this to say about it:
“The activity licensed by state DMVs and in connection with which individuals must submit personal information to the DMV - the operation of motor vehicles - is itself integrally related to interstate commerceâ€
DRIVINGisCOMMERCE,
You may not need one, and have the money to pay attorney fees in court, but I do not, so I want to be able to legally drive instead of getting my car impounded and having to go to court.
No, if I was told I need one to worship the beast, I would not get one. I will not get another one until Real ID is repealled and the biometrics and FRT are taken out of the DL.
I like others don't understand why they had all of North America on the hologram. If not North Carolina then just the US. If there is going to be any sort of organized protest against this please let me know. I won't have to get my license for a few more years and I dang sure ain't gonna get one with all of North America on it. I'm a citizen of the US NOT the NAU.
And even though other have commented on it I have to say again it's real BS for them to start with at "REAL ID" in North Carolina since we not only give illegals a driver's licenses with not real proof of being here legally but we also give them a chance to register to vote without proof of citizenship. I use to be proud to be from NC but lately I'm more and more embarassed to say so.
My revolt is to not get one. I will also work to encourage state legislators to put a stop to this.Quote:
Originally Posted by boxersbear
This is absolutely wrong. Things are a little further along than most know if a continent wide id system is already being tested/implemented. I agree, calling our state reps to try and keep this from happening in our states is a good idea.
My hope actually lies in the criminals hands on this one though. The quickest way to get this ID shutdown is for somebody to reproduce a working copy, chip and all and render it insecure.
That will just put the SPP/NAU groupies on the hunt for a new ID but atleast thats a roadblock.
BTTT
Wow!!! How did I miss this before now? I just looked at my new DL, and fortunately there is nothing unusual on it. However, there is something similar to a bar code on the back. This is very disturbing.
Thanks for the info.
I think i am going to be sick.
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if i get a license with that logo it is getting hit with a grinder
i am afraid by the time America wakes up this will all be done and we wont have a choice.
BTT
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Originally Posted by jp_48504
Maybe a good idea is to renew your license and carry around the verification [camera authoization card] but don't get your picture taken.If stopped by police, show your old license, the NCIC computer will verify a valid license.
You will be legal but not have the new card. Problem solved.
Do you think they would issue you a license without having the picture taken?
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Originally Posted by Dianer
Keep in mind that some states require all old forms of ID...whether licenses or state ID....be turned in before they will issue a new one.
The only way to get around that is to go in and get a duplicate saying that the original was lost or possibly stolen. This way, you have two and if you need to turn in any previous license or ID before getting a new you, you will still have one left.
However, keep in mind that if you ever need to display it, it can be confiscated.
Before trying anything like that it's adviseable to see what your state's policy is concerning licenses and ID.
Bush will not stop until he is the President of the North American Union and the United States is just another Third World Country. The Citizens of North Carolina must be VERY PROUD of their elected and appointed officials with helping Bush and the Elitist Politicians turn over our Nation to the invader ILLEGALS for the profit of the very few.