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    I am beside myself with rage over this lastest (and oh, so obvious) incremental step towards a NAU! Everyone is screaming foul because this is all being perpetrated without congressional debate or vote BUT, does anyone STILL believe our elected "leaders", both R and D, are blissfully unaware of what is transpiring? I sure as hell don't!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hapexamendios
    If you want to fry the RFID, insert it into a microwave between 2 damp rags or paper towels. Only needs to be in there between 3-5 seconds. Will render the RFID useless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greyparrot
    I am beside myself with rage over this lastest (and oh, so obvious) incremental step towards a NAU! Everyone is screaming foul because this is all being perpetrated without congressional debate or vote BUT, does anyone STILL believe our elected "leaders", both R and D, are blissfully unaware of what is transpiring? I sure as hell don't!!!!!
    This is why I have been screaming about the Real ID for the past two years. This is why I have been fighting so hard even when people ignored what I had to say. I have been sending local state rep the whole time. He is seeing the problem with it now as well.

    I was going to submit my own article but Mr. Corsi did a great job and covered just about everything I would have.

    Rep Jim Guest has sacrificed a great deal to go from state to state talking with people and state legislators about this issue. His hard work is staring to pay off.

    DO SEND this to your TALK SHOW HOSTS. I personally sent it to Glenn Back and many others. We must defeat this NAU legislation as well as any other legislation associated with it including any type of Amnesty bills.
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    I just realized that my new license (I received it by mail back in January or February due to an address change) has the north american logo on the back. I am simply disgusted by this!

    Has anyone figured out yet what the number embedded in the hologram is?
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    My husband just renewed and the hologram is there. I told him about this BEFORE he went for his renewal, but like he said- What can you do when you HAVE to have it in order to work?
    One of my sons will be ready for his learner's permit before the year's end. I've a feeling he may be a very disappointed young man if this crap isn't stopped before then. Personally, I think I will be forced to break the law and drive without a NC license when mine comes up for renewal. It works for illegals so it should work for me too. Right?

    BTW- I have passed this info on as well. Maybe if enough pressure is put in the right places, the secret will be revealed.

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    This story has already been moved off of Google News Results.
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    Re: North American Union driver's license created!!!! (ALIPA

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    North American Union driver's license created
    Logo intended to standardize documentation across continent

    Posted: September 6, 2007
    1:00 a.m. Eastern

    By Jerome R. Corsi
    © 2007 WorldNetDaily.com


    New security logo on the reverse of North Carolina's driver's licenses


    Security and Prosperity Partnership logo

    New security logo on the reverse of North Carolina's driver's licenses

    The first "North American Union" driver's license, complete with a hologram of the North American continent on the reverse, has been created in the state of North Carolina.

    "The North Carolina driver's license is 'North American Union' ready," charges William Gheen, who serves as president of Americans for Legal Immigration.

    Gheen provided WND with a photo of an actual North Carolina license which clearly shows the hologram of the North American continent embedded on the reverse.

    "The hologram looks exactly [like] the map of North America that is used as the background for the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America logo on the SPP website," Gheen told WND. "I object to the loss of sovereignty that is proceeding under the agreements being made by these unelected government bureaucrats who think we should be North American instead of the United States of America."


    Security and Prosperity Partnership logo

    "To protest, I don't plan on applying for a North Carolina driver's license," Gheen told WND, "even though I am a resident of the state. I don't see how a Division of Motor Vehicles authorized in a Department of Transportation of a state of the United States can force me to have a license place that is designed with a North American Union insignia printed on the backside."

    "My decision not to get a North Carolina driver's license could have very difficult consequences for me," Gheen told WND. "Without a valid driver's license, I may not be able to drive a car, fly on an airplane, or enter a government building."

    Gheen told WND he does not have a U.S. passport.


    In 2005, WND reported North Carolina was the state where illegal immigrants go to get a driver's license, with busloads of aliens traveling south on I-95 to get an easy ID.

    The Tar Heel State's requirements to obtain a license are weaker than those of many surrounding states.

    Marge Howell, spokeswoman for the North Carolina DMV, affirmed to WND the state was embedding a hologram of North America on the back of its new driver's licenses.

    "It's a security element that eventually will be on the back of every driver's license in North America," Howell told WND.

    Howell explained the hologram of the North American continent was the creation of the American Association of Motor Vehicle Administrators, a tax-exempt, nonprofit organization that, according to the group's website, "develops model programs in motor vehicle administration, law enforcement and highway safety."

    Founded in 1933, AAMVA represents state and provincial officials in the United States and Canada who administer and enforce motor vehicle laws. The government of Mexico is also a member, though the individual Mexican states have yet to join.

    According to the group's website, AAMVA's programs are designed "to encourage uniformity and reciprocity among the states and provinces."

    "The goal of the North American hologram," Howell explained, "is to get one common element that law enforcement throughout the continent can look at on all driver's licenses and tell that the driver's license is an official document."

    Jason King, spokesman for AAMVA, affirmed the North American hologram was created by AAMVA's Uniform Identification Subcommittee, a working group of AAMVA members.

    He explained the goal is to create a continental security device that could be used by state and provincial motor vehicles agencies throughout North America, including the United States, Canada and Mexico.

    King referenced a document on the AAMVA website that describes guidelines for using the North America continent hologram as an Optical Variable Device (OVD) that AAMVA has now licensed with private manufacturers to produce.

    AAMVA supplies member motor vehicle agencies with a quantity of North American continent hologram OVD foils to use on their driver's licenses and ID cards as needed.

    As the guidelines document on the AAMVA explains, each North American continental hologram OVD foil is embedded with a unique set of control numbers that permit law enforcement electronic scanners to identify the exact jurisdiction and precise individual authorized to hold a driver's license or ID card with that particular OVD foil embedded.

    "AAMVA understands its unique positioning and the continuing role identification security will play in helping the general public realize a safer North America," King explained to WND in an e-mail. "The association believes ID security will help increase national security, increase highway safety, reduce fraud and system abuse, increase efficiency and effectiveness, and achieve uniformity of processes and practices."

    Jim Palmer, press director for ALIPAC, told WND that ALIPAC first became aware of the hologram when Missouri State Rep. Jim Guest held a seminar in North Carolina to protest the Real ID law.

    "The surprise came at a meeting on the Real ID that Palmer held in Raleigh, North Carolina, on Saturday, July 28," Palmer told WND.

    "When Rep. Guest asked participants to take out their driver's license and see what was on it," Palmer explained, "one gentleman was a state employee and on his license there was this hologram with the North American continent on the back. We were all surprised to see that on a North Carolina driver's license. Right there, that stopped the show."

    Guest has formed a coalition called Legislators Against Real ID Act, or LARI.

    "I was astonished when I saw that North American hologram on the North Carolina driver's license," Guest told WND. "I thought to myself that the state DMV has already included this North American symbol on the back of the driver's license without telling the people of North Carolina they were going to do this."

    "I thought right then that this was going to be the prototype for the driver's license of the North American Union," Guest told WND.

    "When we called the North Carolina DMV, they hedged at first," Guest said, "but finally they admitted that, yes, there was a North American continent hologram on the back of the license."

    "This is part of a plan by bureaucrats and trade groups that act like bureaucrats to little by little transform us into a North American Union without any vote being taken and without explaining to the U.S. public what they are doing," Guest argued.

    King explained AAMVA’s Uniform Identification Subcommittee created a number of task forces, including the Card Design Specification that developed the North America continent hologram OVD.

    "The Task Group surveyed and met with many stakeholders during the development effort," King wrote to WND. "The Task Force gathered information from government and non-government users of the driver's License/ID card to determine their uses for the DL/ID card and how they believe the card should function. In addition, the Task Group surveyed and met with industry experts in the area of card production and security to gather their advice, especially about the physical security of the card."

    King told WND the Task Group work was repeatedly reviewed by the UID Subcommittee as a whole, with final approval coming from the AAMVA Board.

    In 2006, WND reported Pastor Rios Sanchez, 55, an illegal alien, was accused of killing three people, including two North Carolina State University students and a 26-year-old, while driving drunk.

    "People who think the Real ID was created to keep illegal aliens from getting driver's licenses and IDs should come to North Carolina," Gheen told WND. "What the North Carolina DMV is doing is creating the basis for a continental driver's license."

    "What difference does it make to North Carolina if an illegal alien gets a driver's license?" Gheen asked. "The photo on the license creates a close face scan that can be identified by face recognition technology, whether the DMV admits it or not."

    "Illegal aliens who get driver's licenses are just being scanned in advance," Gheen concluded.

    "Illegal aliens who get driver's licenses or IDs in North Carolina are just being prepared for their admission into the North America Union driver pool that North Carolina is at the vanguard of creating," Gheen said. "That is the truth, whether the North Carolina DMV or the AAMVA want to admit it or not."

    King told WND North Carolina is the first AAMVA member jurisdiction to use the North America continent hologram on a driver's license or ID card.

    http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/artic ... E_ID=57502


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    Kudos to W for this story, the NC DMV wouldn't admit to this before.

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    The word is out there.
    It's on the front pg of http://www.idexer.com/ which refers us to:
    http://www.newsmax.com/headlines/licens ... 30512.html
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    "North American hologram" on North Carolina drivers licenses
    http://lonewacko.com/blog/archives/007020.html

    The beginning of "North American Union driver's license created/Logo intended to standardize documentation across continent" (link) certainly seems a bit tinfoilish. A map of North America appears on the back of the new type of North Carolina driver's licenses and the map looks somewhat like the map to be found on spp.gov. OK, so? After all, wouldn't concerns about things like that be in line with supposed masonic symbols on the U.S. dollar? Then:

    Marge Howell, spokeswoman for the North Carolina DMV, affirmed to WND the state was embedding a hologram of North America on the back of its new driver's licenses.

    "It's a security element that eventually will be on the back of every driver's license in North America," Howell told WND.

    Howell explained the hologram of the continent was the creation of the American Association of Motor Vehicle Administrators, a tax-exempt, nonprofit organization that, according to the group's website [aamva.org], "develops model programs in motor vehicle administration, law enforcement and highway safety."

    Founded in 1933, AAMVA represents state and provincial officials in the United States and Canada who administer and enforce motor vehicle laws. The government of Mexico is also a member, though the individual Mexican states have yet to join.

    ..."The goal of the North American hologram," Howell explained, "is to get one common element that law enforcement throughout the continent can look at on all driver's licenses and tell that the driver's license is an official document."


    It gets even worse at the link.
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    The real ID please read

    Why do we need another I.D.? Make copies & past on, thanks.
    Count down site: www.ncsl.org/realid/ www.unrealID.com www.aboutbibleprophecy.com/revelation_13_16.htm
    UPDATE: 2007 count down to the new “Federal IDâ€

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