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    For Now, Boehner Stands Tough In Immigration Fight

    by Jonathan Strong
    25 Feb 2015

    House Speaker John Boehner isn’t following his fellow Republican Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell’s cave-in yesterday on a Department of Homeland Security spending bill, and the distance between them is becoming more clear.

    The Ohio Republican told colleagues he hadn’t spoken to McConnell in two weeks, and while some lawmakers attempted to downplay the rift, the chasm between the two chambers is growing wider.

    “In November, people thought Harry Reid was going to be dethroned and the Senate was going to be controlled by Republicans. I’m sad to say that hasn’t happened,” said Rep. Matt Salmon (R-AZ), a key conservative, underscoring the growing enmity between the House and Senate GOP.

    Tuesday, McConnell said he would remove language from a DHS funding bill aimed at stopping President Obama from enacting the executive amnesty he announced in November. An unhappy GOP senator describes McConnell’s approach as a “total victory for the Obama position.”

    But in addressing his House colleagues Wednesday morning, Boehner did not budge from the House position.

    “He said to keep yourselves very flexible for the weekend. It sounds to me like he’s hunkering down. This was his strategy to begin with. He was the one who talked us out of fighting this fight during the cromnibus. So this is his strategy and I’m glad he’s showing some backbone on this,” Salmon said.

    Behind the standoff is the real sense that Boehner’s leadership could be on the line if he follows McConnell’s lead.

    “This is very, very delicate territory for our leadership,” said Rep. John Fleming (R-LA).

    “They know our base out there – I’m not talking about the conservatives in the House – it’s our base out there that is going to be upset if we deviate from this,” Fleming added. “My staff told me, you know, I voted for Speaker Boehner. My staff said we had more calls to vote against him than we had against Obamacare. There was a huge spike of calls, and that all goes back to the cromnibus. So, to cave at this point, on this bill, our leadership sees real danger in doing that.”

    Meanwhile, liberal Republicans including Rep. Peter King (R-NY) are growing increasingly restive as a Friday deadline comes near, after which the current spending for DHS will expire, possibly resulting in some furloughs even as a large majority of the agency continues operations.

    “We can’t allow DHS not to be funded. People think we’re crazy. There’s terrorist attacks all over the world and we’re talking about closing down Homeland Security. This is like living in the world of the crazy people,” King said.

    House conservatives say they understand the stakes of a DHS shutdown, but add that Obama’s executive amnesty was so flagrantly unconstitutional that the very foundation of the U.S. government is at risk.

    “As anybody can attest, I feel like national security is our top priority. However, the reason that we have a national security apparatus that we have is because of the constitutional foundations. If we ever gave through the Constitution, everything else would come apart,” said Rep. Trent Franks (R-AZ).

    Meanwhile, the frustration that the Senate, now controlled by the GOP, still can’t move to produce a bill – any bill – is driving deep frustration in the House.

    “I’m waiting for the Senate to act. The House has done its job to fund the Department of Homeland Security and to stop the president’s overreach on immigration. And we’re waiting for the Senate to do their job. Senate Democrats have stood in the way now for three weeks, over a bill that should have been debated and passed. So until the Senate does something, we’re in a wait-and-see mode,” Boehner told reporters.

    “Let’s see what they actually produce. And it’d be nice to actually have them do something,” added Rep. David Schweikert (R-AZ).

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    Could it be that there is some tit for tat going on here? Does anyone member the Senate's bill languishing around for 18 month's last Congress?

    How can that impasse be broken, or can it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kevinssdad View Post
    Could it be that there is some tit for tat going on here? Does anyone member the Senate's bill languishing around for 18 month's last Congress?

    How can that impasse be broken, or can it?
    If the House holds the line, the Administration will have no money to fund DHS.

    Then it will be up to 6 Senate Democrats to break the impasse. There are 8 Democrats who agree that Obama is wrong, so they should have no problem with approving the bill the House sent to the Senate. They aren't doing so because of politics, so we'll just have to wait and see what they'll finally do on a vote. If they don't vote for the House bill, then the US will get along fine without a DHS. After all, what have they really done for US lately besides sneak around and let 20 million illegal aliens into the country, legalized at least temporarily almost 8 million of them since 2009, and want to legalize another 5 million that will actually be 10 million by the time it's all said and done, and this is their solution to the illegal immigration problem, not curing it, not fixing it, not stopping it, not removing it, just legalizing it so it looks like there is no more illegal immigration. It's crazy, and anyone who supports it is crazy. And crazy is as crazy does, so we'll just have to see what they do to find out how damn crazy they all are.
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    Good for Boehner! Hold the line, stand your ground!
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    Is the USA gov't afraid of the people that they so readily welcomed? Are our members of Government being threatened by the millions of aliens that all hell breaks loose if they are ordered deported? This guy wants to know it if our gov't are chickens and cowards, We found out today that Jeh Johnson is even too cowardly to face victims of alien crime!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    If the House holds the line, the Administration will have no money to fund DHS.

    Then it will be up to 6 Senate Democrats to break the impasse. There are 8 Democrats who agree that Obama is wrong, so they should have no problem with approving the bill the House sent to the Senate. They aren't doing so because of politics, so we'll just have to wait and see what they'll finally do on a vote. If they don't vote for the House bill, then the US will get along fine without a DHS. After all, what have they really done for US lately besides sneak around and let 20 million illegal aliens into the country, legalized at least temporarily almost 8 million of them since 2009, and want to legalize another 5 million that will actually be 10 million by the time it's all said and done, and this is their solution to the illegal immigration problem, not curing it, not fixing it, not stopping it, not removing it, just legalizing it so it looks like there is no more illegal immigration. It's crazy, and anyone who supports it is crazy. And crazy is as crazy does, so we'll just have to see what they do to find out how damn crazy they all are.
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    Boehner ‘Not Hard At All’ To Hold The Line Against Executive Amnesty

    by Caroline May
    26 Feb 2015

    House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) insists that the Senate must act to fund the Department of Homeland Security, since the House has already passed a bill.

    “I just think it’s outrageous that Senate Democrats are using the Department of Homeland Security funding for blackmail to protect the actions of the president, where the president himself said he didn’t have the authority to do this,” Boehner told reporters Thursday.

    Congress is facing a Friday deadline to fund DHS or the department would shut down. Last month, the House passed a DHS funding bill that also blocks President Obama’s executive amnesty. Senate Democrats prevented debate on the House-passed bill for much of the month of February.

    This week, however, Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) moved to have a vote on a DHS bill free of the immigration provision, succumbing to the demands of Democrats. And while there is incongruity in the strategy between the House and Senate GOP, Boehner argued the battle is not among Republicans.

    “It is not a fight amongst Republicans. All Republicans agree we want to fund the Department of Homeland Security and we want to stop the president’s executive actions with regard to immigration,” Boehner stressed.

    Boehner says Congress has a role to play in halting the president’s executive amnesty, even as the courts have temporarily blocked Obama’s actions.

    “The courts have stopped the president’s executive action at least temporarily, but having said that I think there is a role for Congress to play in defending the Constitution and upholding the rule of law. And we intend to do that,” he said.

    When asked if it is difficult for him as a legislator to “hold the line” and not compromise, Boehner replied, “not at all.”

    It’s not hard at all. The President said, 22 times that he did not have the authority to make these changes in law and yet he did it anyway. The Congress of the United States cannot look the other way and act like it didn’t happen. The courts aren’t looking the other way. This is a violation of our Constitution. It’s a violation of the balance of powers in our Constitution and it needs to be addressed and we’re doing it.

    The Ohio lawmaker would not tip his hand, however, about what House Republicans will do next.

    “If they produce something we’ll decide what we’re going to do once we see it,” he said.

    When asked about the likely prospect that the Senate returns a “clean” bill, the Speaker responded with a kiss and said, “when we make decisions I’ll let you know.”

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    “The courts have stopped the president’s executive action at least temporarily, but having said that I think there is a role for Congress to play in defending the Constitution and upholding the rule of law. And we intend to do that,” he said.

    When asked if it is difficult for him as a legislator to “hold the line” and not compromise, Boehner replied, “not at all.”
    Please let it be true.

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