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    Now Trump Says He's 'Fairly Close' to Making A Deal with Democrats on 'Dreamers'

    September 14, 2017

    Now Trump says he's 'fairly close' to making a deal with Democrats on 'Dreamers' and border security - and the GOP leaders are 'on board' with it

    • Democrats Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi claimed after a dinner at the White House with the president that a DACA deal had been done

    • They said that Trump agreed to enshrine protections for 800,000 illegal immigrants, aka Dreamers, in a border security package 'excluding the wall'
    • White House press secretary Sarah Sanders later said that there was no agreement on the wall during the meeting
    • President Trump said the same thing in a string of tweets on Thursday morning
    • 'No deal was made last night on DACA. Massive border security would have to be agreed to in exchange for consent. Would be subject to vote,' he said.
    • Follow up message: 'The WALL, which is already under construction in the form of new renovation of old and existing fences and walls, will continue to be built'
    • Trump again pushed Congress to pass legislation protecting the immigrants - but said he wanted 'BIG border security'
    • As he left the White House, Trump admitted he was 'fairly close' to reaching a deal with Democrats that excluded the wall and GOP leader are 'on board'
    • Pelosi and Schumer released a statement around the same time saying the president's tweets were not inconsistent with what they said.

    President Donald Trump admitted Thursday as he left the White House for a daylong trip to Florida that he discussed a deal with Democrats to protect illegal immigrants who came to the U.S. as minors from deportation and fund some border security enhancements but not a wall.

    After claiming in early morning tweets that 'no deal' had been reached, Trump told reporters awaiting his departure that he was 'fairly close' to hammering out an agreement that mirrors the one his White House smacked down last night as a false negotiation.

    'We're working on a plan for DACA. People want to see that happen. You have 800,000 young people brought here, no fault of their own, so we're working on a plan, we will see how it works out. But we are going to get massive border security as part of that, and I think something can happen,' Trump said over the roar of Marine One.

    The president explicitly said, 'The wall will come later.' He also claimed that House Speaker Paul Ryan and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell are 'on board' with the DACA deal he hammered out last night at a private meeting with Democrats.

    'The wall is going to be built, and it will be funded later,' he asserted.

    Trump previously said in tweets that 'massive border security' adjustments would have to be on the table for him to make a handshake agreement with Democrats.

    'No deal was made last night on DACA. Massive border security would have to be agreed to in exchange for consent. Would be subject to vote,' he said in Thursday morning tweets. 'The WALL, which is already under construction in the form of new renovation of old and existing fences and walls, will continue to be built.'

    Senate Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer and House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi said in a joint statement at roughly the same time as Trump was speaking to the press that his tweets were not inconsistent with what they'd claimed.

    They said last night after a White House dinner that an agreement had been brokered that would protect the 800,000 immigrants who benefited from former President Barack Obama's Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, or DACA, program.

    Trump had put the program on a six-month sunset and urged Congress to pass legislation in that window to keep Dreamers, as they are called, in the U.S. permanently.

    A joint Democratic statement said that Trump agreed to set aside the border wall as part of the agreement. The White House spokeswoman immediately slapped the claim down. The president followed suit this morning on Twitter.
    Hours later, he seemed to confirm what Pelosi and Schumer had said.

    'We want to get massive border security, and I think that both Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer, I think they agree with it,' Trump posited. 'So we met last night, with, as you know, Schumer, Pelosi and a whole group. I think we're fairly close but we have to get massive border security. '

    Trump said he'd spoken to McConnell and Ryan since, and they had no qualms with the package that's under development.

    'Oh I think he's on board, yeah, Mitch is on board. Paul Ryan's on board. We all feel, look, 92 percent of the people agree on DACA, but we want, is we want very, very powerful border security,' Trump said.

    Schumer and Pelosi more or less agreed with Trump's take on the meeting in a joint statement that hit inboxes as he was talking.

    'President Trump's Tweets are not inconsistent with the agreement reached last night. As we said last night, there was no final deal, but there was agreement on the following:
    'We agreed that the President would support enshrining DACA protections into law, and encourage the House and Senate to act.

    'What remains to be negotiated are the details of border security, with a mutual goal of finalizing all details as soon as possible. While both sides agreed that the wall would not be any part of this agreement, the President made clear he intends to pursue it at a later time, and we made clear we would continue to oppose it.

    'Both sides agreed that the White House and the Democratic leaders would work out a border security package. Possible proposals were discussed including new technology, drones, air support, sensor equipment, rebuilding roads along the border and the bipartisan McCaul-Thompson bill.'

    It's the second time in two weeks that Trump has met with Pelosi and Schumer to talk about a deal with the potential to anger conservatives. The first time he met with them Ryan and McConnell were present. The meeting ended with a firm agreement to move forward with a three-month extension of government funding and the debt limit.

    Importantly, the deal provided immediate aid to areas affected by Hurricane Harvey.

    A joint Democratic statement that hit inboxes at 9:45 pm last night that began the brouhaha over DACA and the border wall said they had a 'very productive meeting at the White House with the President.'

    'The discussion focused on DACA. We agreed to enshrine the protections of DACA into law quickly, and to work out a package of border security, excluding the wall, that’s acceptable to both sides.'

    At 10:21 pm, White House Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders said they were mistaken.

    'While DACA and border security were both discussed, excluding the wall was certainly not agreed to,' she tweeted.
    Trump followed up in a series of tweets this morning. He defended the Dreamers again - yet said 'no deal' had been made.

    'Does anybody really want to throw out good, educated and accomplished young people who have jobs, some serving in the military? Really!' he said. 'They have been in our country for many years through no fault of their own - brought in by parents at young age. Plus BIG border security.'

    The DACA program provides two-year work permits and protection from deportation to its 800,000 recipients.

    Trump said he was ending the program this month and giving Congress six months to come up with a legislative fix before DACA paperwork begins to expire.

    Conservatives were quick to point out that previous amnesty deals did not end with immigration overhaul like the one Trump has been pushing.

    'Reagan led with Amnesty, 1986. Bush 43 led with Amnesty '06, Obama led with Amnesty '13. All failed so...Trump leads with DACA Amnesty 2017,' Iowa Rep. Steve King tweeted.

    The White House had initially claimed that the president had had 'a constructive working dinner' with Schumer, Pelosi and administration officials 'to discuss policy and legislative priorities' such as DACA.

    'This is a positive step toward the President's strong commitment to bipartisan solutions for the issues most important to all Americans,' the White House said.
    During a White House meeting earlier in the day with Republicans and Democrats, Trump brought DACA back to the forefront of the discussion.

    'We don't want to forget DACA,' Trump said. 'We want to see if we can do something in a bipartisan fashion so that we can solve the DACA problem and other immigration problems.'

    Trump has called Schumer a 'clown' and a 'loser' in the past, but has turned to the fellow New Yorker more recently to help break through congressional gridlock.

    'More and more we're trying to work things out together,' Trump said Wednesday.'If you look at some of the greatest legislation ever passed, it was done on a bipartisan manner. And so that's what we're going to give a shot.'

    Sanders said Wednesday that Trump was 'committed to the wall' while acknowledging that 'it doesn't have to be tied to DACA.'

    'But it's important and he will get it done,' she said.
    Ryan told AP Wednesday during an interview that deporting the so-called 'Dreamers' was 'not in our nation's interest.' Trump was right to include a six-month sunset in his DACA termination orders.

    'I wanted him to give us time. I didn't want this to be rescinded on Day One and create chaos,' Ryan said. Congress how has time to 'come up with the right kind of consensus and compromise to fix this problem.'

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    Trump is so inconsistent. He doesn't even know what he's saying from one minute to the next! One minute he says a deal has been made, next minute he says a deal hasn't been made, and then he again says a deal has been made. It's all so confusing. I guess that's what happens when you trust a scam artist.

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    Does anybody really want to throw out good, educated and accomplished young people who have jobs, some serving in the military? Really!.....

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