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    If you like Christmas trees, thank an (illegal) immigrant

    http://www.reason.com/links/links122205.shtml

    December 22, 2005

    Who Grew Your Tree?
    If you like Christmas trees, thank an immigrant
    Nick Gillespie and Jesse James DeConto


    `Tis the season for Christmas trees and immigration reform, two issues that are rarely considered in the same thought. But they are intricately interconnected in important ways: As with most agricultural products, growers rely heavily on immigrant labor to bring the trees to market.

    Just a couple of days before the lighting of the Capitol Christmas Tree, the House of Representatives began debating legislation that would, among other things, make living illegally in the United States an aggravated felony, tighten borders and hike fines for paperwork violations by employers of legal and illegal immigrants by as much as 2,500 percent. The Senate plans to take up the issue early next year, and President Bush has begun to lay out a vague, but already controversial, plan for a guest worker program.

    While politicians put presents under their trees they should think about workers such as Buca, a 35-year-old Mexican immigrant who works in North Carolina, where one out of every five Christmas trees sold in the United States is grown. It is grueling, backbreaking work, the sort that most of us born in the United States would never do, for any amount of money. The typical worker makes between $6 and $8 an hour to cut, stack and haul trees on a mountainside. During the harvest season, they routinely pull shifts that last 16 hours, often in harsh weather.Buca (we've omitted his last name to protect his family's identity) has an H-2A temporary agricultural visa, which allows him to work for about 10 months out of the year, while Christmas trees are being grown or cut. Every December, after the harvest, he has to leave the country -- and his wife and two children -- returning only in February. Buca's wife, who works as a nanny, is an illegal immigrant, so she stays behind in North Carolina with their two children rather than risk not being able to get back into the United States.

    Buca and his wife arrived in North Carolina in 1994, leaving behind $1-an-hour jobs in a Florida orange grove. Despite their long history of employment in the United States -- and even though their kids are native-born U.S. citizens -- they have no serious shot at permanent resident green cards.

    Given her undocumented status, Buca's wife simply can't risk applying without fear of arrest or deportation. Her lack of legal working status is something she shares with more than half of the nation's agricultural workers. Most of the people who raise your turkey in Minnesota, dig your potatoes in Idaho, pick your corn in Illinois, and more are illegal immigrants.

    Buca can apply for a green card, but he is competing against an estimated 5 million to 6 million other Mexican immigrants. Current law caps annual immigration from any one country at 7 percent of the total, so these millions are competing for fewer than 26,000 permanent resident green cards allotted annually for Mexicans who don't have U.S.-citizen spouses, parents or children able to sponsor them. The system provides only 140,000 spots for employment-based green card applicants -- and only 40,000 of those are for immigrants with education at the baccalaureate level or below. Just 10,000 permanent resident visas a year cover the unskilled jobs that most Mexican immigrants fill.

    There is something not simply wrong but immoral with an immigration policy that does not make full room for workers such as Buca.

    One promising, if incremental, reform was last year's Agricultural Job Opportunity, Benefits and Security Act, which was endorsed by the National Christmas Tree Association and various labor unions. The "Agjobs" bill would greatly expand the temporary visa program and give workers and their families a shot at permanent residence by granting green cards to immigrants who worked at least 360 days in agriculture over six years after the legislation is passed. Last April, a majority in the Senate passed the bill, but it fell short of the 60 votes needed to override a Republican filibuster.

    As politicians gather around Christmas trees for photo-ops and family gatherings, they should take a minute to reflect on who grows those great symbols of generosity and brotherhood. After the holidays, they should craft a policy that welcomes all hard-working Americans, regardless of their country of origin.
    It's like hell vomited and the Bush administration appeared.

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    Just another in the infinite series of articles from the OBL.

    After the holidays, they should craft a policy that welcomes all hard-working Americans, regardless of their country of origin.
    So now everyone's automatically an American, regardless of country of origin?

    It's going to get mighty crowded around here.
    It's like hell vomited and the Bush administration appeared.

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    I PROTESTED THIS YEAR for the first time in my 61 years!! I did NOT put up a LIVE TREE!! I'm NOT giving any illegals jobs cutting MY TREE. I have a really FUNNY Christmas Krinkles tree that looks kind of like a Charlie Brown tree and I am LOVING it. AND, for the first time in ALL THOSE YEARS, I haven't had to vacuum ONE FRASIER FIR NEEDLE!
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    There have been a lot of bad articles on immigration on Reason. There was one @hole who had posted on the Milwaukee Craigslist board quoting a Reason article saying this. It is more important to protect the American production of apples at a profit from cheap labor than conditions and wages for American laborers.
    I support enforcement and see its lack as bad for the 3rd World as well. Remittances are now mostly spent on consumption not production assets. Join our efforts to Secure America's Borders and End Illegal Immigration by Joining ALIPAC's E-Mail Alerts network (CLICK HERE)

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    keep piling on that giult- it seems to be the theme song of mexico and us citizens that suppport open borders
    sorry idiot- but I live in oregon we are the tree capital and we did just fine without ilegals-
    Iam getting really tired of these pedro and maria stories-
    In oregon going to a tree farm run by an american citizen and cutting your own is way fun!

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    Reason Editor-in-Chief Nick Gillespie is the editor of Choice: The Best of Reason


    Jesse James DeConto is Roy H. Park Master's Fellow at the University of North Carolina and a Phillips Foundation fellow.

    http://www.thephillipsfoundation.org

    "jesse james deconto" - Google Search
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    OH GOD, is there no level to low for these turds to stoop?

    Cuting Christmas Trees is not back-breaking grueling work. I can lift my Christmas, every Christmas tree I've ever bought, I can lift to the car, lift into the house and install in it's little water bucket.

    But several years ago, I decided to buy an artificial one. It was sold by Hechinger's. It looks real and was so well made that all these severals later, it still looks like new and it stll looks real.

    So, OBL, take your little Christmas Fairy Tale and sell it somewhere else.

    You all disgust me beyond my belief.

    In fact, you've probably angered enough Americans with this WHINER LYRIC to turn them off natural Christmas Trees altogether forever and will probably put the Christmas Tree Farms out of business.

    Because should I ever purchase another live Christmas Tree if will not be BEFORE I can guarantee that it was owned, growned, cut, carted, watered, displayed and sold by American Citizens.



    Now everyone that has already bought a Christmas Tree is looking at it with disappointment growing into downright rage that their money they paid for it supported the brothel of illegal immigration.

    There is no safe corner from these people until we get us a brand new President and Vice President. Christmas isn't even safe, not even the trees grown in America.

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    Every hit on DeConto turns up more of the same kind of piece.

    DeConto's grant is from Tom Phillips who is a Conservative newsletter publisher who has a newsletter e publishes with Lou Dobbs.

    The presence of illegal labor depresses compensation for the legal harvesters just like in every other line of work.
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    Jesse James DeConto is Roy H. Park Master's Fellow at the University of North Carolina and a Phillips Foundation fellow.
    You North Carolinians out there note where this man hails from. UNC!! One of THE MOST LIBERAL BASTIONS in the country!!!
    "POWER TENDS TO CORRUPT AND ABSOLUTE POWER CORRUPTS ABSOLUTELY." Sir John Dalberg-Acton

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    you know what? I have nine acres in NC and they have all sorts of pine trees that grew just fine without any help from illegal immigrants. Far as I know, no illegal so much as spit on any of mine to water them. This is ignorant BS if ever I heard any.
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