Only if you are an American citizen

Only if you are an American citizen
Wednesday, 09 July 2008
Carolyn Hileman

There are still some things guaranteed you as an American citizen today, one is that it does not matter if you agree with any plan our government has to spend your tax dollars you will have to pay it. Another is that if you commit a crime you will do the time or pay the fine or both. Take for instance ID theft if you as an American citizen use someone else’s ID, you will be charged with a felony, with a maximum sentence of 15 years, a fine, and criminal forfeiture of any person property used or intended for use in the offense. Such is the case of a California woman who used a social security card that did not belong to her, but according to Judge Harry S. Mattice social security cards are not necessarily forms of identification, he declared this to be so in a case against to illegal immigrants who used a fake social security card for employment.

When you get a job you are required to give the company a copy of your social security card and another form of ID, if you don’t it is basis for dismissal, but for those two men the rules you and I must go by do not count. Unless the federal attorneys can find some way to prove that social security cards are in fact ID, those two will walk on that charge and if they walk one wonders what about all those people behind bars for the exact same thing are their cases up for review since up until Judge Mattice decided it was not ID, it was and a lot of people who were using someone else’s non ID have been charged and sentenced, so what now? If it isn’t really ID, then when some one uses your social security number does that mean you are not responsible for any thing owed the government? If it is not ID, why do our babies have to have one? Why must we have one in order to get a drivers license? Open an account, get a credit card?

You see, this was done in a case against Tyson chicken in 2005, most people never noticed because illegal immigration was not a very hot topic then, but it is now. In most cases if they are caught they are just sent back home and the person that they borrowed the ID from must fix the mess. Not so if you are an American citizen, the rules are different for us, and we will spend a maximum of 15 years behind bars. We would be called a criminal; they are called the working poor, freedom fighters and activists. Think about it for just a moment, really let it sink in, there are people who cross our border every second of the day and while we are sleeping, the first thing they do when they get here is buy a social security card with someone’s number on it, then they use it to get a job, get credit, a drivers license and the most that will happen to them is a trip home to start all over again. The law is that stealing a persons ID gets you 15 years in prison a fine and criminal restitution but that is only if you are an American citizen.

Carolyn Hileman
http://thevoice.name/?p=9374

Barely makes it worth being a citizen when being illegal offers so much more. :roll:

Judge Mattice decided it was not ID,


Unfit to be any kind of a judge.

These judges are descriminating against the American people. They should be thrown off the bench.

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Originally Posted by tinybobidaho

These judges are descriminating against the American people. They should be thrown off the bench.

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How about tared and feathered and then thrown off the bench ?

Maybe we should all renounce our citizenship and become illegals. Where would we be deported to...our country of origin???

I wonder if citizens who have had their SSN's stolen can sue the illegals for damages...theft, loss of credit, etc. If I'm not mistaken, illegals are allowed to bring lawsuits against Americans...turnabout is fair play!

And what about the "Suspension Fund"...aren't the IA's going to be re-imbursed for all of the money that was withheld on their stolen SSN's... if they get amnesty or permanent legal residency?

If nothing else, they are committing THEFT and FRAUD, which IS a crime!

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Originally Posted by crazybird

Barely makes it worth being a citizen when being illegal offers so much more. :roll:

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You sure can say that again: How bout someone starting to sell illegal documents for the American people so we can change our identity and be better off like alot of illegal and legal immigrants. I received this e-mail, don`t know how true, but I hardly doubt it`s false, it`s worth sharing!

Subject: Fw: Fwd: Fw: Is this Right???

FROM SOME OF DEAD BEATS, LAW MAKERS IN WASHINGTON.
This what we worked for all our lives and contributed to the Social Security Fund????

Get mad and pass it on - I don't know how, but maybe some good
will come of this travesty.
If the immigrant is over 65, they can apply for SSI and Medicaid and get more than a woman on Social Security, who worked from 1944 until 2004.
She is only getting $791 per month because she was born in 1924 and
there's a "catch 22". It is interesting that the federal government provides a single refugee with a monthly allowance of $1,890. Each can also obtain an additional $580 in social assistance, for a total of $2,470 a month. This compares to a single pensioner, who after contributing to
the growth and development of America for 40 to 50 years, can only
receive a monthly maximum of $1,012 in old age pension and Guaranteed Income Supplement.
Maybe our pensioners should apply as refugees!
Consider sending this to all your American friends, so we can all be
Ticked off and maybe get the refugees cut back to $1,012 and the
pensioners up to $2,470. Then we can enjoy some of the money we were forced to submit to the Government over the last 40 or 50 or 60 years.

Please forward to every American to expose what our elected politicians
have been doing over the past 11 years - to the over-taxed American.

SEND THIS TO EVERY AMERICAN TAXPAYER YOU KNOW

How do you explain to a wife/husband that the money you received from Social Security Retirement Benefits must be returned because your spouse died during the previous month? It does not matter what day of the month the death occurred all money must be returned. I cannot understand the government’s logical thinking; I would think it would be pro-rated for the amount of days the person was alive during that month. In my case, my husband lived until the 29th and Social Security wants the check back.(They took the money back, we had direct deposit) Let me understand how we did not have the same living expenses and more for that month. Yet we have a Seven-year limit for some noncitizens to get Social Security benefits.
I am contacting our representatives to ask for the law to be changed and I ask that you do the same. Someday it will be you or a family member that goes through this. I have attached web addresses to verify what I have posted it the law.

Social Security Benefits http://www.socialsecurity.gov/pubs/10008.html
If the deceased was receiving Social Security benefits, you must return the benefit received for the month of death or any later months. For example, if the person dies in July, you must return the benefit paid in August. If benefits were paid by direct deposit, contact the bank or other financial institution. Request that any funds received for the month of death or later be returned to Social Security. If the benefits were paid by check, do not cash any checks received for the month in which the person dies or later. Return the checks to Social Security as soon as possible.

Seven-year limit for some noncitizens
http://www.socialsecurity.gov/pubs/11051.html
Some refugees and other noncitizens can get SSI for up to seven years. If your SSI payments are limited to seven years because of your particular noncitizen status, we will send you a letter telling you when your seven-year period ends. We will send you another letter explaining your rights to appeal before we stop your payments.
If you are a current or former SSI recipient subject to SSI eligibility under the seven-year time limit, we encourage you to contact the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) to find out how to:
Expedite processing of your pending naturalization (N-400) or adjustment of status (I-485) application; and
Waive fees for the cost associated with filing your application

In case you are wondering, I have not received a reply from any elected offical.