Thread: Oregon: U.S. flag taken down in order 'not to offend'

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A NewsWithViews.com &
US~Observer.com Report
May 27, 2005
By Ron Lee

MEDFORD, OR - Due to intense public pressure brought on by outraged U.S. citizens over the display of a Mexican flag, the Oregon Employment Department removed the flag from its 119 N. Oakdale Ave. offices in Medford, Oregon, but that isn't the only thing that has been taken down from its walls.

Just hours after the story "Placing the Mexican Flag above 'Old Glory'" was published on-line, the US~Observer received the response below from Thomas Fuller the Employment Department's Statewide Communications Manager:

"I finally got a chance to see the article you wrote - and especially the picture. Clearly this display was inappropriate and we have had the flag removed.

As I mentioned to you on the phone, there is no policy prohibiting a staff member from displaying a flag in their cubicle - but this was way beyond that. I just wish I'd seen the photo earlier.

As a state agency we have to abide by polices set forth by our Department of Administrative Services but must also weigh public perception. Please be assured that this situation has been dealt with and the flag will no longer be visible to any members of the public."

In an e-mail received by NewsWithViews.com from Monte Muirhead of KOBI TV who went to the Oregon Employment Department to report on the Mexican flag, it was confirmed that the Mexican flag had been taken down, but also that the American flag, which was being flown below and to the left of the Mexican flag, had been removed as well; Monte couldn't locate either flag.

Following up on this report, NewsWithViews.com headed back to the employment department to investigate. When asked why the American flag was removed along with the Mexican flag, Jean Work, the Office Manager for the Medford Oregon Employment Department replied, "It was removed in order not to offend." But when asked who it would offend she stated, "Well, I’d rather not use the word offend. It was removed in order to conform with the rest of the staff who have their flags on their desks."

Edward Snook, Editor in Chief of the US~Observer, stated when hearing of Ms. Work's comment, "What is this, a U.N. department? It sure sounds like the employment office is making it a point to employ foreign nationals if they each have their own flag on their desk, and it isn't an American flag. It's completely anti-American that ‘Old Glory’ was taken down and that patriotic citizens are paying those who committed this atrocity with their hard earned tax dollars. It shows me that officials like Jean Work and Thomas Fuller at the employment offices haven’t been reading the volumes of e-mail that our last story generated calling out to them to take down the Mexican flag and that the American flag should be honored. I for one am going to start demanding, and will continue for as long as it takes, that these people be removed from their positions and that the American flag be returned to its proper position."

According to Craig Spivey, a public information representative of the Oregon Employment Department, there are currently 37 employees in their Medford office. When asked how many of these individuals were displaying their flag on their desks and are these individuals American citizens he replied, "Personal information about our employees is considered confidential by the department, and therefore can not be shared with the media."

In a meeting between Paul Walter, one of the editors of NewsWithViews.com, and Edward Snook, discussing this case Walter stated, "The appearance that it gave to me after the Mexican flag was removed is that the American flag had to be removed in order not to offend the Mexican employees and all for the sake of political correctness."

Snook shaking his head, "I agree that's why they did it. But where is this political correctness going to end? You're either an American and here legally because you recognize America is where you want to be, or you are not an American."

Walter, an immigrant himself, agreed, "I left Yugoslavia to be an American, because it's the greatest country in the world. Why would I hold onto a political symbol of a country I chose to no longer be a part of?"

Whatever the reasoning behind the lowering of the Stars and Stripes, the public is already inflamed by the Employment Department's - and ultimately the Department of Administrative Services - move to allow the display of the Mexican flag in a state-run office in the first place. According to the majority of the approximated 2,000 e-mails received, the hostility they feel for such an action is tied directly to illegal immigration and this current administrations lack of action in the face of what some call an invasion. Many fear that our country is being eroded away into a multi-lingual, multi-culturalist, separatist, alien haven, rather than being the melting pot that our forefathers envisioned.

Snook, as many Americans, has strong feelings when it comes to the flag and this country. He believes, “They have treated ‘Old Glory’ with the same disrespect as before, when they flew the Mexican flag above it, by removing it now in order not to ‘offend’ the Mexican workers in their office. I strongly urge everyone to help me right this terrible injustice and join with the US~Observer and NewsWithViews.com to do whatever it takes to make sure all those responsible for this whole issue are removed from their jobs. Everyone, including their contacts who were outraged over the Mexican flag flying above our American flag need to join me, now! I would ask all citizens to please e-mail me with your sentiments. Please send those same sentiments to Oregon’s Governor Kulongoski and President Bush by calling them, faxing them. Whatever it takes, it shouldn’t stop until there is real action, real accountability.�

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This is outrageous! Remind me again what country we live in.

Sounds like these clowns need to be contacted again. If someone has that info handy or can dig it up, please do so. If I find it I'll do the same.

I'm so OUTRAGED that SPITTING seems appropriate
My family will not allow this one to pass!

I hope everybody burns up the phones & emails to ORGEGON

What is wrong with them? This is America Fly the US Flag especially for those who have fought to defend it.

Let their phones ring!

Medford
119 N Oakdale Avenue
Business Park III
Medford 97501

PO Box 1068
Medford 97501
(541) 776-6060 - ES
(541) 776-6093 - ES FAX
(877) 728-7970 - UI Toll Free
(541) 686-7828 - UI FAX
(541) 776-6266 - TTD
(541) 779-6567 - WCL

Let their phones ring!

Thanx JP........you can always be counted on to get the information!

Now, I suggest that everyone wait until Tuesday to make calls. With the holiday they will go to waste. However, LOL.......Tuesday will probably be called "the Day from Hell" by those morons in Oregon

** let's bump this up occassionally so that everyone will remember on Tuesday.

Originally Posted by jp_48504

Let their phones ring!

Medford
119 N Oakdale Avenue
Business Park III
Medford 97501

PO Box 1068
Medford 97501
(541) 776-6060 - ES
(541) 776-6093 - ES FAX
(877) 728-7970 - UI Toll Free
(541) 686-7828 - UI FAX
(541) 776-6266 - TTD
(541) 779-6567 - WCL

I just called the top number and spoke with an employee by the name of Joyce and she claimed that the US flag might have been temporarily moved, but it is back up now. In fact several of them are up so she says. Actually they might have just put them back up because I got ahold of some intern (forgot the name, sorry) and I asked to speak with someone concerning this matter and she gave me a disgusted huff and puff before transferring me to Joyce. Joyce claims that the US flags are up and she was looking at them being up. I said if this is true then thank you for the info.

I don't know how I can verify this being I'm on the East Coast, but that's the word from the employee I just talked to. Take it for what it's worth.

PS Joyce claims that she's well aware of the news article out on this subject, so she says.

The American flag should stay. And all these immigrants who don't have any respect for that flag should LEAVE.

GET OUT! GET OUT! GET OUT! We need you like a hole in the head. YOu're ruining our country. If you think your former countries are so great, then why don't you GET THE HELL OUT OF MY COUNTRY AND GO LIVE IN THEM!

But the question is: Why the hell was a MEXICAN flag in flying in a public building in the first place? Who is responsible for this? And why isn't that person fired IMMEDIATELY?

Excellent DMan. Keep on their butts!

Acebackwords,I couldnt get through. Thanks for posting it so quickly.

don't know how I can verify this being I'm on the East Coast

DMAN.......please call again Tuesday.
We can get her "story" verified by contacting the author of the piece.
I'll be glad to start contacting him and others on Tuesday. I believe that he'll GLADLY verify.

EVERYONE please ring their phones off the hook TUESDAY. They'll be forced to stay and listen as there's no holiday for an excuse to leave early!!