Thread: Paul Ryan rules out Donald Trump’s ‘deportation force’

Originally Posted by Judy

It's not "huge news", it's a huge lie. There will be no amnesty under Trump. There will be no legal status of any kind under Trump because Trump has said and pay attention even if Idiot Ryan can't or won't, Trump's priority is to remove millions of criminal illegal aliens, all visa overstays, everyone on welfare or other benefits, and anyone who won't or can't support themselves, to enforce the law and secure the border. Then IF there is anyone else left, he will review the individual situations at that time to see what should be done keeping in mind he says that others waiting to come in legally should be considered first in fairness to them and our citizens.

Oh my God, I'm watching this piece of crap Ryan now flirting with that illegal alien bragging on her, bragging on her town of Oklahoma City, blah blah blah. Disgusting.

Ryan is speaking for Trump when he says:

Mr. Ryan said the charge he has taken from Mr. Trump is to target the serious criminals for deportation while finding a way to grant Dreamers and other low-priority illegal immigrants legal status.

You can believe as you please, but I seriously doubt Ryan is going to pull something like that out of the air. This is obviously coming from a conversation between him and Trump.

Originally Posted by Judy

It's not "huge news", it's a huge lie. There will be no amnesty under Trump. There will be no legal status of any kind under Trump because Trump has said and pay attention even if Idiot Ryan can't or won't, Trump's priority is to remove millions of criminal illegal aliens, all visa overstays, everyone on welfare or other benefits, and anyone who won't or can't support themselves, to enforce the law and secure the border. Then IF there is anyone else left, he will review the individual situations at that time to see what should be done keeping in mind he says that others waiting to come in legally should be considered first in fairness to them and our citizens.

Oh my God, I'm watching this piece of crap Ryan now flirting with that illegal alien bragging on her, bragging on her town of Oklahoma City, blah blah blah. Disgusting.

Judy, this is what happens when decades of betrayal takes place and Presidents and Congress forget about the best for the nation and its citizens. President Elect Trump is going into a world where amnesty will be demanded before any new legislation takes place. Hopefully they can use current laws to achieve great strides to combat illegal immigration and amnesty. Those who want amnesty will not give. I think they are embolden to succeed on this.

Paul Ryan does not believe they will vote Democrat. He believes they are natural Republicans.

Ryan says GOP, Trump working on solution for immigrant kids

• By ERICA WERNER AP Congressional Correspondent
• 2 hrs ago
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WASHINGTON (AP) — Congressional Republicans are working with the Trump transition team on a solution for immigrants brought illegally to this country as kids, House Speaker Paul Ryan said Thursday.

Hundreds of thousands of these immigrants gained temporary protections and work permits from President Barack Obama. While campaigning for president, Donald Trump promised to undo those protections, putting the immigrants at risk of deportation.

Ryan didn't detail how Congress and Trump would dispose of the program, called Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, or DACA. But when questioned on a CNN town hall by a woman who identified herself as a DACA recipient with a young daughter, Ryan told her he did not want to see her deported.


"I can see you love your daughter, you are a nice person who has a great future ahead of you, and I hope your future is here," Ryan said.

"What we have to do is find a way to make sure that you can get right with the law, and we've got to do this in a good way so that the rug doesn't get pulled out from under you and your family gets separated."

Host Jake Tapper pointed out that Trump, during the campaign, promised a "deportation force" to round up the more than 11 million immigrants in the country illegally. Ryan dismissed that idea.


"I'm here to tell you in Congress it's not happening."

Instead, Ryan said Trump has asked lawmakers to focus on two priorities with respect to illegal immigration: securing the border and deporting immigrants who are violent, repeat criminals.

http://www.statesville.com/news/us/a...e5c93fac8.html

Originally Posted by GeorgiaPeach

Judy, this is what happens when decades of betrayal takes place and Presidents and Congress forget about the best for the nation and its citizens. President Elect Trump is going into a world where amnesty will be demanded before any new legislation takes place. Hopefully they can use current laws to achieve great strides to combat illegal immigration and amnesty. Those who want amnesty will not give. I think they are embolden to succeed on this.

Paul Ryan does not believe they will vote Democrat. He believes they are natural Republicans.

I think Trump is going to outsmart them. If anyone can, he can, and if he can, he will.

DACA goes way beyond those brought as babies by their illegal parents - it includes all sneakers with the below criteria. Sick of hearing the lies @ sob sob babies brought here years ago when it is meant to sneakily encompass all under 31 in this country illegally - that has nothing to do with being a baby brought by parents. Albeit there are those in that classification but the deceit is that it means many, many more amnestied and have a right to be here taking jobs, reproducing on our tax dollar.

Politicians keep spreading untruths -
Senator Dick Durbin (IL)
The second-ranking Senate Democrat hopes to preserve DACA, an Obama executive order allowing certain undocumented immigrants to remain in the country. If successful, this could severely slow down the President-Elect’s planned deportations. Durbin has partnered with moderate Republican Lindsey Graham (SC) to draft a bill preserving DACA enrollees’ legal status. He hopes to encourage immigrants to “shadows and contribute more fully to the only country they’ve ever called home.” If Democrats unify around this bill and win more Republican allies, they may undermine Trump’s deportation effort.

http://www.1776coalition.com/rise-up...trump-to-fail/


DACA MEANS THIS:
"Individuals who meet the following criteria can apply for deferred action for childhood arrivals: are under 31 years of age as of June 15, 2012;

• came to the U.S. while under the age of 16;
• have continuously resided in the U.S. from June 15, 2007 to the present. (For purposes of calculating this five year period, brief and innocent absences from the United States for humanitarian reasons will not be included);
• entered the U.S. without inspection or fell out of lawful visa status before June 15, 2012;
• were physically present in the United States on June 15, 2012, and at the time of making the request for consideration of deferred action with USCIS;
• are currently in school, have graduated from high school, have obtained a GED, or have been honorably discharged from the Coast Guard or armed forces;
• have not been convicted of a felony offense, a significant misdemeanor, or more than three misdemeanors of any kind; and
• do not pose a threat to national security or public safety.

Applicants will have to provide documentary evidence of the above criteria. In addition, every applicant must complete and pass a biographic and biometric background check"
http://www.immigrationequality.org/g...hood-arrivals/

We are alerting our ALIPAC networks to this new threat/problem today...

http://www.alipac.us/f8/paul-ryan-cl...2017-a-342207/

we pose the question...

Is Paul Ryan trying to steer Trump to amnesty and wreck his administration or is the true Trump immigration agenda radically different than what voters believed he has promised or both?

and we ask our supporters to take immediate action...

Please contact Paul Ryan to tell him you read his comments in the Washington Times, and you don't appreciate his efforts to encourage and aid illegal immigrants! Phone (202) 225-3031 Fax (202) 225 3393 Twitter @PRryan & @SpeakerRyan Facebook (Click Here)

Trump is going to reverse the executive orders pertaining to DACA and DAPA. He said so many times.

Originally Posted by Judy

Trump is going to reverse the executive orders pertaining to DACA and DAPA. He said so many times.

It doesn't do much good to reverse it if you're going to team up with the U.S. Congress to actually pass a legalization program. We've already heard it said that Ryan and Trump's transition team are working on a "humane" program that will allow them to stay. It's also no secret that the U.S. Senate is working on the same thing as we speak. Supposedly their plan already has the support of several traitorous Republicans (Flake, Graham, McCain).

My whole point is, ending DACA is useless if you're replacing it with another legalization program. Using a different technique to end up with the same outcome does not serve our country's best interest. Amnesty is amnesty, regardless of how you end up there.

Trump has already said many times that he doesn't support amnesty or legalization of any kind. If Ryan thinks he can bamboozle Trump, then that just shows how stupid Ryan is. Trump is not going to support any legalization of illegal aliens until many years from now, and only then possibly, he cushions even that with what about all the legal immigrants waiting in line legally, how is that fair to them. What people in the media don't understand or fail to ignore is that when Trump talks about being "fair", he's not talking about being fair to illegal aliens, he's talking about being fair to US citizens and Legal Immigrants. When he talks about being "humane", he means being humane to illegal aliens during deportation, a safe deportation, he means providing them food while in custody and urgent medical attention if they need it while in detention centers awaiting deportation, treating them the same as any person in custody, he means deporting families as "single units", no broken families, no child or spouse left behind, deported all together as a family.

Trump wants to help unemployed and underemployed Americans and black Americans in our inner cities, not illegal aliens. Just because Paul Ryan wants amnesty and doesn't want a deportation force, doesn't mean we'll have amnesty and won't have a deportation force. Trump will veto any amnesty or legalization bill, you can take that to the bank, and Trump will have his own people handle deportations. Congress is a different branch of government, all it can do is pass laws and hope a President signs it. This President won't sign an amnesty or legalization bill, not in his first year, second year, third year or fourth year, and I doubt he'll do so in a second term, because by the end of his first term there won't be anyone left to amnesty or legalize. Americans will be back to work supporting themselves with great jobs with affordable health care, our budget will down as will many in the states because they aren't funding illegal aliens any more, and any hope of an "amnesty" will be a fruitless cause because there won't be anyone left to give amnesty to or legalize.

Trump has said and he means it, he will end illegal immigration in the United States. That and protecting our trade are the two main reasons he ran for President. To give up all that he is giving up and putting up with all that he is putting up with, he's doing it for one reason and that is to fix this country and make it great again and illegal aliens are in his way, part of the primary sources of our problems, and they will all be gone before 2020.

Originally Posted by Judy

Trump has already said many times that he doesn't support amnesty or legalization of any kind. If Ryan thinks he can bamboozle Trump, then that just shows how stupid Ryan is. Trump is not going to support any legalization of illegal aliens until many years from now, and only then possibly, he cushions even that with what about all the legal immigrants waiting in line legally, how is that fair to them. What people in the media don't understand or fail to ignore is that when Trump talks about being "fair", he's not talking about being fair to illegal aliens, he's talking about being fair to US citizens and Legal Immigrants. When he talks about being "humane", he means being humane to illegal aliens during deportation, a safe deportation, he means providing them food while in custody and urgent medical attention if they need it while in detention centers awaiting deportation, treating them the same as any person in custody, he means deporting families as "single units", no broken families, no child or spouse left behind, deported all together as a family.

Trump wants to help unemployed and underemployed Americans and black Americans in our inner cities, not illegal aliens. Just because Paul Ryan wants amnesty and doesn't want a deportation force, doesn't mean we'll have amnesty and won't have a deportation force. Trump will veto any amnesty or legalization bill, you can take that to the bank, and Trump will have his own people handle deportations. Congress is a different branch of government, all it can do is pass laws and hope a President signs it. This President won't sign an amnesty or legalization bill, not in his first year, second year, third year or fourth year, and I doubt he'll do so in a second term, because by the end of his first term there won't be anyone left to amnesty or legalize. Americans will be back to work supporting themselves with great jobs with affordable health care, our budget will down as will many in the states because they aren't funding illegal aliens any more, and any hope of an "amnesty" will be a fruitless cause because there won't be anyone left to give amnesty to or legalize.

Trump has said and he means it, he will end illegal immigration in the United States. That and protecting our trade are the two main reasons he ran for President. To give up all that he is giving up and putting up with all that he is putting up with, he's doing it for one reason and that is to fix this country and make it great again and illegal aliens are in his way, part of the primary sources of our problems, and they will all be gone before 2020.

You can't create Donald Trump's story for him. Trump is going to do what Trump is going to do, regardless of what you or I may think or say. As I've learned in my 58 years of life, political campaign promises sound sincere when they're made, but things can change, and change quickly, once the campaigner has achieved his goal of office. Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Trump actually say all his promises were flexible?

Anything that allows the DACA illegals to continue their stay here is amnesty. It's time we accept the reality of the situation. The DACA illegals aren't going anywhere and will still be here when the next President, after Trump, assumes office. They will receive formal legalization that will eventually put them on a path to citizenship, which will be amnesty. Anyone that wants to bet against the amnesty would have to be considered a serious underdog at this point in my opinion. The writing is on the wall for anyone that wants to read it. Just listen to the verbal hints coming from Trump, Ryan, and the Senate.

Trump has already said many times that he doesn't support amnesty or legalization of any kind.

Trump is not going to support any legalization of illegal aliens until many years from now...

Sort of a contradiction, don't you think?

Things will probably become much clearer over the next month or so. Hopefully I'm wrong, but I don't think I am. We'll see........