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    Trial begins for rancher who detained illegal aliens UPDATED

    Trial begins for Arizona rancher who detained illegal aliens

    Feb. 3, 2009 09:24 AM
    Associated Press

    TUCSON - The trial is now under way in a civil-rights lawsuit against a southern Arizona rancher accused of holding a group of illegal aliens at gunpoint near Douglas.

    Attorneys for the 16 people who were trying to cross into the U.S. illegally accuse Roger Barnett of holding a gun on the group, threatening them with his dog and also threatening to shoot anyone who tried to escape, according to a news release from the Mexican American Legal Defense and Educational Fund.

    The group also said Barnett kicked one of the women in the group when she was on the ground.

    The federal lawsuit charges Barnett, his wife, Barbara Barnett, and his brother, Donald Barnett, with conspiring to violate the plaintiffs' civil rights, according to the release.

    U.S. District Court Judge John Roll in March rejected Barnett's efforts to have the charges thrown out, ruling that sufficient evidence of a conspiracy existed, that the Barnetts denied the immigrants' right to interstate travel and that the actions of the three were motivated by race.

    Barnett's attorney, David Hardy, had argued that illegal immigrants didn't have the same rights of interstate travel as U.S. citizens do.

    Roll's ruling came on the heels of another judgment against Barnett in February 2008.

    At that time, the Arizona Court of Appeals refused to throw out a jury verdict from November 2006 - and a nearly $100,000 monetary award - against Barnett in another civil case where a jury concluded he falsely imprisoned members of a Douglas family.

    The current trial is scheduled to go through Feb. 13.

    http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/ ... trial.html
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    Soon they will be suing border patrol and other law enforcement agencies for detaining and violating the rights of whom this government refers to as "New Americans"
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    Attorneys for the 16 people who were trying to cross into the U.S. illegally accuse Roger Barnett of holding a gun on the group, threatening them with his dog and also threatening to shoot anyone who tried to escape, according to a news release from the Mexican American Legal Defense and Educational Fund.
    They understood English? For being an uneducated people they sure KNOW how to PLAY the GAME.........
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    Roger Barnett is a true American hero.

    He and his family have stepped up and done at great cost to himself what our Govt should have done.

    Here is a little background on him and what he has had to endure.

    http://www.desertinvasion.us/invasion_p ... rnett.html

    And this is back in 04 so as you see things have progressivly grown worse for them.

    Why are they not pinning a medal on his chest?
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    We need more people like this! This guy should be given a medal!!!!


    Quote Originally Posted by Waiter
    Roger Barnett is a true American hero.

    He and his family have stepped up and done at great cost to himself what our Govt should have done.

    Here is a little background on him and what he has had to endure.

    http://www.desertinvasion.us/invasion_p ... rnett.html

    And this is back in 04 so as you see things have progressivly grown worse for them.

    Why are they not pinning a medal on his chest?
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    I thought we could make a citizens arrest?
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    Quote Originally Posted by WorriedAmerican
    I thought we could make a citizens arrest?
    I guess only if the arrestee is a citizen
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    This is one of the reasons they want to take our guns away,so we can not defend ourselves or stop crime when we see it.

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    Denied them "rights to Interstate travel"? Yet assisting illegals (even if one only has reasonable knowledge) to travel in the US is also criminal. He saw them on his land; would he have been in danger of violating the law if he let them pass? And would there also be civil liability? How was he supposed to stop a group of sixteen? The courts cannot have it both ways. The law is supposed to be non-contradictory.

    Actually I hope he has a better shot at this one, being in federal court. The federal law is pretty clear, whereas I'm not sure the State law would have been.
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    if these people were on his property, he has a right to stop the trespassing.
    doesnt he?

    these stupid judges in Arizona need to be fired

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