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    Report: Trump to End DACA on Friday, but With An Amnesty Twist

    REPORT: TRUMP to end DACA on Friday, but with an amnesty twist…



    BY KARINA MICHELS/ AUGUST 31, 2017/ ECONOMY








    August 31, 2017



    The billionaire businessman who leads Facebook, Mark Zuckerberg may want to take a long look at a study recently conducted by his pro-immigration organization, FWD.us.


    According to the study, if President Trump were to end the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program, more than 700,000 new jobs would become open to American citizens.

    According to Breitbart News, FWD.us President Todd Schulte expected the study to show that American’s are helped by the more than 850,000 young illegal aliens (“Dreamers”) in the DACA program, which gives temporary amnesty to those seeking work in the U.S.


    Instead, the study’s results indicate that if President Trump were to rid of DACA, an average of 30,000 American job opportunities would become available each month.


    Nonetheless, according to Schulte, “Eliminating DACA would have immediate and severe consequences for not only the 800,000 Dreamers enrolled in the program, but for the millions of Americans who live, work, and study with these young people every single day.”


    Many, who follow immigration statistics, believe the enormous illegal alien population, which is estimated to be between 12 to 30 million in number, in addition to the more than one million-per-year immigrants who are admitted legally, are helping to displace American workers and causing wages to languish at low levels.


    A number of state attorneys general, including Texas’ Ken Paxton, have threatened the Trump administration with legal action in an attempt to force it to end the DACA program. At the very least, the attorneys hope the administration will refuse to defend the program in court.

    During former President Obama’s final months in office, he issued more than 120,000 permissions for young illegal aliens to receive work permits, which, under DACA, are permitted despite immigration status.

    According to Fox News, a White House source says Trump will likely end the DACA program on Friday. Speculation is that he will cancel the program which expires on Sept 5, but will allow those here already here to be grandfathered in. Dennis Michael Lynch weighed in on the decision, by saying, “Whether he wants to admit it or not, Trump allowing the 800,000 Dreamers protected by the program to stay in the United States is flat out amnesty. It remains to be seen how that sits with his base, but make no mistake, he is granting amnesty.”


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    My opinion-

    If it happens that the President grandfathers in close to 900,000 illegal aliens as he dismantles DACA, he will have betrayed the American people. He added tens of thousands more to DACA and if this occurs we will be forced to continue to pay for the anchor baby births, education, crime, healthcare, handouts, etc. We did not get a wall or anything. They will get amnesty. We will be forced to contend with their attitudes of superiority, getting what they wanted with future guarantees by democrats for amnesty for their parents, siblings, other relatives. Millions of illegal aliens will get amnesty through the "heart" of President Trump and his democrat circle of family and staff in the White House, plus his liberal, elite friends like Newt Gingrich and Chris Christie.

    If it happens, General John Kelly can say he kept his promise to protect illegal alien dreamers.

    If it happens, the American people will again be put second, not first.

    If it happens, republicans lose, democrats win.

    If it happens we are repeating the past. Amnesty first versus America First.

    Let us hope the President doesn't grant this enormous amnesty.
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    According to Fox News, a White House source says Trump will likely end the DACA program on Friday. Speculation is that he will cancel the program which expires on Sept 5


    See, the program expired on June 15, except for the extension of the lawsuit which had a court order to continue DACA 2012 until the lawsuit was settled or dismissed. The lawsuit was first extended for 2 weeks by Judge Hanen from June 15 to June 30, then Texas AG requested a further extension to Sept. 5 which the Judge granted which now requires Trump to terminate it rather than let it expire by its terms.

    As to this bizarre concept of "grandfathering" in, there is no legal mechanismfor such a thing. The program is being canceled because it's illegal and unconstitutional. You can't legally "grandfather" someone into an illegal unconstitutional program you've canceled on that basis.

    Do they mean those with unexpired work permits will continue to have their permits until they expire? Well, if everyone had been paying attention, within the guidelines of DHS, there is no way presently to retrieve the work permits. The people have them, their employers rely on them, the government can ask for them to return them, but how many would do that? There was a big discussion about these work permits that have been handed out during the Texas lawsuit when Obama sent out 36,000 3 year work permits and tried to get them back, when the court ruled them illegal, and the court ruled they would have to expire since there was no legal way to force the people to send them back. The government can declare the work permits null and void but has no legal means to take any legal action to do anything about it, except deport the illegal aliens which is what should be done in the first place. I'm not saying make them a group priority, but Trump's priorities are pretty broad and will cover about 80% of DACAs.

    What people need to understand is DACA's have no more right to be here than any illegal alien and no illegal alien has any right to be in the United States. No right at all. It's not "hard", requires no "big heart", it requires an end to an illegal program and swift deportation.
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    Deem these work permits Null & Void

    Deem ALL Driver's Licenses issued to illegal aliens Null & Void

    Deport the whole family. So if some family has extended work permits and some do not have work permits...then some go and some stay? They are ALL illegal and their anchor babies...they are NOT US citizens.

    NO...KEEP THE FAMILY TOGETHER AND DEPORT THEM ALL
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    NO DACA - NO AMNESTY - NO PATH TO STAY - LET WORK PERMITS EXPIRE

    HAND UAC'S OVER INTO THE CARE AND CUSTODY OF THEIR EMBASSY!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beezer View Post
    Deem these work permits Null & Void

    Deem ALL Driver's Licenses issued to illegal aliens Null & Void

    Deport the whole family. So if some family has extended work permits and some do not have work permits...then some go and some stay? They are ALL illegal and their anchor babies...they are NOT US citizens.

    NO...KEEP THE FAMILY TOGETHER AND DEPORT THEM ALL
    YES!!!!
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    NO AMNESTY

    Don't reward the criminal actions of millions of illegal aliens by giving them citizenship.


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    NBC Nightly NewsVerified account @NBCNightlyNews 7m7 minutes ago More

    JUST IN: Pres. Trump says decision on future of DACA immigration program may come today or over the weekend: "We love DREAMers."
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    If they allow One Million "dreamers" to stay and jump the line in front of those coming LEGALLY...then in exchange for that we shut down ALL immigration until Trump is out of office!

    They gave the 58,000 Haitian's a 6 month free pass to stay...now they are fleeing to Canada. They never INTEND to leave.

    Thousands of El Salvadorians are off TPS and need to GO.

    How about Honduras and Guatemala and all their offspring...they need to GO.

    How about the millions of Somali's DUMPED in our communities!

    How about the millions of refugees Obama DUMPED on US taxpayers?

    They want people from Venezuela to come here...NO!

    How about the hundreds of THOUSANDS of Cuban's...send them back too.

    When does it end? It never does!

    NO DEALS!

    AND NO...WE DO NOT LOVE OUR DREAMERS...THEY ARE OUR NIGHTMARE! GO DREAM ON YOUR SOIL.
    NO DACA - NO AMNESTY - NO PATH TO STAY - LET WORK PERMITS EXPIRE

    HAND UAC'S OVER INTO THE CARE AND CUSTODY OF THEIR EMBASSY!

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    God bless Donald Trump
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    The president initially said his announcement would be on Friday or over the weekend; he later said it would be during the weekend or possibly on Monday, which is Labor Day.


    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/imm...eamers-n798151
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