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    Put out a list of members who are likely to vote for Amnesty. I can send out NO AMNESTY faxes to all of them.

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    Motion to Discharge a Committee from the Consideration of a Resolution
    May 9, 2018
    To the Clerk of the House of Representatives:
    Pursuant to clause 2 of rule XV, I, Carlos Curbelo, move to discharge the Committee on Rules from the consideration of the resolution (H.Res. 774) entitled, a resolution providing for consideration of the bill (H.R. 4760) to amend the immigration laws and the homeland security laws, and for other purposes, which was referred to said committee March 13, 2018, in support of which motion the undersigned Members of the House of Representatives affix their signatures, to wit:
    Wednesday, May 9, 2018

    1. Carlos Curbelo
    Florida
    26

    2. Jeff Denham
    California
    10

    3. David G. Valadao
    California
    21

    4. Will Hurd
    Texas
    23

    5. Mario Diaz-Balart
    Florida
    25

    6. Mia B. Love
    Utah
    04

    7. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen
    Florida
    27

    8. Charles W. Dent
    Pennsylvania
    15

    9. Fred Upton
    Michigan
    06

    10. David G. Reichert
    Washington
    08

    11. Mike Coffman
    Colorado
    06

    12. Chris Collins
    New York
    27

    13. John J. Faso
    New York
    19

    14. Mark E. Amodei
    Nevada
    02

    15. Elise M. Stefanik
    New York
    21

    16. Leonard Lance
    New Jersey
    07

    17. Ryan A. Costello
    Pennsylvania
    06

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    GOP lawmakers back discharge petition to force immigration votes

    BY RAFAEL BERNAL - 05/09/18 10:38 AM EDT 278


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    Fifteen House Republicans have signed on to a discharge petition filed Wednesday that is intended to force votes on a series of immigration measures — including legislation to protect so-called Dreamers.

    The discharge petition, which is intended to force legislation from a committee, would lead to a floor vote if a majority of House members sign on to it.


    Democrats have been pressing for an immigration vote in the House and would be expected to back the petition. If all House Democrats sign it, it would need 25 Republican signatories to force a vote.


    GOP Rep. Carlos Curbelo (Fla.) filed the motion, and was quickly joined by Republican Reps. Jeff Denham (Calif.), Will Hurd (Texas), Mario Díaz Balart (Fla.) and David Valadao (Calif.) as initial sponsors.


    All five are in competitive races this year. The Cook Political Report lists Curbelo's and Denham's races as tossups.


    By midafternoon, 15 Republicans had signed the petition.

    Reps. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (Fla.) — who is retiring at the end of the year — and Mia Love (Utah) were the first new signatories.

    They were followed by Reps. Charlie Dent (Pa.), Fred Upton (R-Mich.), Dave Reichert (Wash.), Mike Coffman (Colo.), Chris Collins (N.Y.), John Faso(N.Y.), Mark Amodei (Nev.) and Elise Stefanik (R-N.Y.).

    Republicans who support immigration reform have grown increasingly frustrated at leadership over inaction on the issue, and the filing of the petition is an attempt to go around leadership to force a vote on the floor.

    The discharge petition would specifically force a vote on a "Queen of the Hill" rule that would lead to votes on a series of competing immigration proposals. Which ever measure won the most votes would be the legislation approved by the House.


    Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) and Majority Leader Rep. Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) dismissed the Queen of the Hill proposal when it was presented. That proposal garnered 248 co-sponsors, including 52 Republicans.


    If the discharge petition does get 218 votes — per House rules, a discharge needs a majority of total membership regardless of vacancies — seven legislative days would have to pass before a floor vote.


    The House would then vote on the measure on either the second or fourth Monday of the month. No House votes are scheduled on a second or fourth Monday until July 23.

    In rejecting the earlier push for a vote, Ryan has stuck to a promise he made to immigration hard-liners not to call a vote on the issue unless half the Republican Conference supports the measure.

    The four proposals are all meant as a legislative replacements for the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program, which President Trump rescinded in September.

    Under DACA, around 690,000 Dreamers — immigrants who arrived in the country illegally as minors — were protected from deportation and allowed to work and go to school in the United States.

    The Queen of the Hill rule that the GOP lawmakers have been pursuing would have the House choose between a hard-line proposal by Rep. Bob Goodlatte (R-Va.); the DREAM Act, a proposal that would give a path to citizenship to 1.8 million Dreamers; the USA Act, a measure that would pair the Dream Act with $25 billion in border security funding; and a yet-unnamed proposal of Ryan's choosing.


    Trump originally gave Congress until March 5 to find a replacement for DACA, but courts blocked Trump's rescission, extending the program and, for the time being, rendering the deadline moot.


    Updated at 12:35 p.m.

    http://thehill.com/homenews/house/38...migration-vote

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    Lawsuits pending...NO DACA

    No protection for "dreamers"...let their President PROTECT them.

    There "deferred" deportation is OVER. Now let work permits expire and out they go!
    ILLEGAL ALIENS HAVE "BROKEN" OUR IMMIGRATION SYSTEM

    DO NOT REWARD THEM - DEPORT THEM ALL

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    THE COURT NEEDS TO SHUT DACA DOWN!


    IT IS AGAINST THE LAW! NO AMNESTY!

    RULE THAT EXISTING WORK PERMITS EXPIRE, THERE WILL BE NO RENEWALS OR EXTENSIONS AND NO NEW APPLICATIONS.

    UPON EXPIRATION OF THE WORK PERMIT...YOU TAKE YOUR FAMILY AND LEAVE AND APPLY TO COME LEGALLY LIKE THE TWO BILLION PEOPLE ON THE PLANET "DREAMING" OF COMING HERE!

    NO MORE SOB STORIES!

    NO IF'S, AND'S OR BUT'S!!!

    GO HOME AND BUILD AMERICA ON YOUR SOIL.
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    GOP’s DACA Push Is Lunacy or Fakery, Say Immigration Experts

    by NEIL MUNRO
    9 May 2018

    The “discharge petition” effort by 17 GOP House legislators to pass a no-strings ‘DACA’ amnesty is either politically insane or high-risk, pre-election fakery, says pro-American immigration reformers.

    Whatever the purpose, the GOP leadership and President Donald Trump needs to shut down the amnesty before the GOP’s business-first wing can betray the GOP ‘s voters, said Mark Krikorian, director of the Center for Immigration Studies. “It seems to me they should be making clear to these guys that anybody who signs this will be cut off from [party funds] … [and told] ‘You’re dead to us,” he added.

    In just one day, 17 GOP members have signed the discharge petition. If the vote count reaches 25 GOP legislators, then Democratic leaders can add all 193 Democrats to the signature list — and use the 218 votes to bypass the House’s GOP leadership to schedule a floor vote and then the passage of a no-strings amnesty.

    The amnesty would likely include 3 million younger illegals who claim they were brought to the United States as children. But the amnesty would also allow the illegals to become citizens — and to then bring in their parents and foreign relatives into the country via unreformed chain-migration laws. Over the next 15 years or so, the discharge petition could deliver another 15 million Democratic-aligned voters into the United States, at a multi-trillion dollar cost to taxpayers and businesses.

    The Washington Post reported that “several Democrats familiar with the thinking of party leaders said they expect virtually all House Democrats to join the petition once enough Republicans sign on.”

    “There is a small group of so-called Republicans in the House who are willing to destroy the Republican Party in a delusional attempt to safeguard their own seats,” said Rosemary Jenks, policy director at NumbersUSA, which advocates for lower immigration. “It is lunacy, absolute lunacy,” she said, adding:

    "How is assisting a big fat amnesty with zero enforcement — while we are in the middle of a border crisis! — will help them get reelected? … They are delusional."

    "It is a slap in the face to [GOP] leadership, assuming that leadership does not want to pass a big fat amnesty and that is not a very safe assumption"

    The leading advocates of the petition are facing tough elections in districts with many Latinos. They are Florida Rep. Carlos Curbelo, Texas Rep. Will Hurd, and California Rep. Jeff Denham.

    Numerous polls show that GOP 2018 voters are strongly opposed to a no-strings amnesty that would lower wages and raise immigrant inflows. Those polls also show that immigration is a much higher priority for the GOP voters than other issues, such as the preserving the tax cuts.

    The discharge petition may be just pre-election fakery, says Krikorian. “It could be the whole thing is fake,“ designed to not reach 25 signatures but just to boost a handful of endangered or retiring GOP legislators, he said. But if it is a fake, the discharge petition is a risky effort by the GOP leaders to help their endangered GOP legislators crawl over the finish line in November, he said, adding:

    "If they have this in hand, and this is just for show without a prospect of it [getting 25 signatures and then] passing, I could live with that."

    "But that is kind of risky… [because] maybe people will take the absence of objection from leadership as some kind of approval signal, so I would hope to see some critique of this [House Speaker Paul] Ryan or [Majority Leader Kevin] McCarthy.”

    McCarthy is expected to take over the GOP leadership soon from Ryan, who is retiring.

    The at-risk GOP candidates “are getting huge money from leadership PACs all kinds of Republican apparatus, and that money could be cut off in a heartbeat” said Jenks. “We are not seeing any kind of leadership [intervention] at all – where is Kevin McCarthy?”

    By late Wednesday, the petition has been signed by 17 GOP legislators, well short of the 25 signatures that are needed by the Democratic leadership to force the amnesty vote.

    The discharge petition list is updated here.



    The signatories include Rep. Lance, from N.J., who used his Twitter account to tout his support for the amnesty petition.


    Rep. Leonard Lance

    @RepLanceNJ7
    President Trump ended President Obama’s executive immigration order last September & requested that Congress pass a constitutional long-term plan to strengthen border security & end uncertainty for the DACA population. It is past time we meet that task. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/house-g...igration-vote/
    3:09 PM - May 9, 2018

    NumbersUSA gives Lance a C grade for his immigration votes in this Congress.

    The discharge petition is being cheered by U.S. Chamber of Commerce, FWD.us, and various business groups who are growing alarmed as wages for Americans nudge upward in a tight labor market.


    Neil Bradley
    @NeilBradleyDC
    My @USChamber statement regarding effort to get action on #DACA and border security: “It is long past time to protect the Dreamers and secure our border...we applaud those members who are adding their names to the ongoing effort to start legislative debate in the U.S. House.”
    1:12 PM - May 9, 2018

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    REMEMBER THOSE NAMES AND VOTE THEM OUT OF OFFICE
    ILLEGAL ALIENS HAVE "BROKEN" OUR IMMIGRATION SYSTEM

    DO NOT REWARD THEM - DEPORT THEM ALL

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    Rebel House Republicans seek to force 'Dreamer' immigration vote



    May 9, 2018

    Richard Cowan

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A breakaway group of Republicans in the U.S. House of Representatives defied their leaders on Wednesday in an attempt to force bipartisan action on legislation protecting young illegal ‘Dreamer’ immigrants from deportation.



    The rare move, by lawmakers who largely represent districts with significant Hispanic populations or are supportive of pro-immigration business interests, could potentially break a congressional stalemate on immigration.
    It could trigger a House debate in June or July on four bills designed to replace the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program, which has protected some 800,000 people brought illegally to the United States as children, mainly from Mexico and Central America.
    President Donald Trump wants DACA to end and has moved to clamp down on both illegal and legal immigration. The issue is already prominent in some November congressional election campaigns.



    The Republican rebels include moderates and lawmakers whose districts have big Hispanic populations, such as Carlos Curbelo of Florida, Will Hurd of Texas and Mike Coffman of Colorado. Several face tough re-election bids.
    However, many conservative voters are squarely behind Trump’s get-tough stance on immigration, making it potentially risky for Republican lawmakers representing such districts to join any insurgency forcing legislative action on DACA.






    Last September, Trump said he was terminating DACA, a program set up in 2012 by former Democratic President Barack Obama. Courts are reviewing the termination.
    Moves in Congress to replace DACA with legislation allowing DACA participants, known as Dreamers, to live and work legally in the United States collapsed in the Senate in February.

    The Republican rebels are attempting to get a majority of House members to sign a petition that would force debate and votes on four DACA replacement bills. The one getting the most votes and at least a majority of the House would go to the Senate.

    House backers of the insurgency said that if they can pull off the legislative feat, enough senators would vote for a bipartisan bill to ensure passage. Trump has proven to be erratic and many lawmakers have given up predicting whether he would sign or veto legislation.

    Republican Representative Jeff Denham, a leader of the new effort, told reporters he and other rebels would prevail. The number of Republicans involved so far totals 17 of 236 House Republicans. Assuming all 193 House Democrats sign on, Denham would need another eight Republicans to advance legislation.

    The effort is supported by Republican-friendly business interests, including the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, which encouraged the insurgency in a public statement.
    House Speaker Paul Ryan has expressed support for doing some sort of “DACA fix” but has refused to stage votes on any bill.

    Among the measures that could be debated is one that would protect Dreamers, while adding border security measures, although not the southwest border wall Trump demands.



    Another would protect Dreamers from deportation and put them on a path to citizenship. A third would provide some protections, but would reduce legal immigration. A fourth bill would be one of Ryan’s choosing.





    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...KBN1IA2UY?il=0




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