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    This should be no surprise to anyone.
    We were told in 2010 they were going to do this.

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    Conservatives re-examining position on illegal immigration



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    Republicans Reconstruct Party On Immigration
    Washington : DC : USA | Nov 09, 2012 at 9:26 AM PST
    By Lauren Brown Jarvis

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    Republicans will rise again and immigration might be the issue to help them do it.

    South Carolina Senator Lindsay Graham took to Twitter yesterday advocating for changes to the 14th amendment as the solution to America's immigration crisis.

    In his tweet, Graham says, "Without changes in birthright citizenship we will have future waves of illegal immigration."

    A preceding tweet read, "We must also address the issue of birthright citizneship our [sic] we will continue to have illegal immigration as far as the eye can see."

    Republicans are staking it all on immigration. The American electorate is clearly asking its politicians to exhibit some bi-partisanship. In response, House speaker John Boehner, former Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice have both indicated their party is ready to take decisive action on immigration. Boehner even stating to ABC news, "A comprehensive approach is long overdue, and I'm confident that the president, myself and others can find the common ground to take care of this issue once and for all."

    In their campaign to remain relevant, Republicans will have to shed their obstructionist ways and work with President Obama. These reconstructionist Republicans are looking to put their party back together again. They need a win.

    But from the language in Graham's tweets are Republicans suggesting we augment the constitution to get it done?

    A 2011 New York Times article suggested one alternative-the creation of two kinds of birth certificates. "One for the children of citizens and another for the children of illegal immigrants."

    The 14th amendement in its current form insures birthright citizenship, automatic citizen status to anyone born or "naturalized" on American soil. Changing the constitution to deny citizenship to children born in the U.S. but to parents who are not documented citizens is the solution Graham and many in his party are advocating for.

    Also in 2011, scholar Margaret Stock in an interview with the Council on Foreign Relations, lambasted congress for considering the end of birthright citizenship without being able to identify how to pay for the bureaucracy such a policy would call for.

    It's a logical critique, as Stock points out, "Even the states proposing this haven't talked about how they are going to administer this. They don't seem to realize that it is tremendously complicated to figure out someone's immigration status at any point in time. It requires a lot of documentation."

    Republicans have made clear no type of amnesty is acceptable to thier members. Yet, adding citizens to the tax rolls serves to increase the revenue this nation so sorely needs as we roll toward the fiscal cliff.

    If the GOP is asking itself, how do we win with latinos, immigration seems like the sensible place to start. Yet, election night exit polling revealed immigration followed jobs and the economy. The latter were tied for first in importance to latino voters. Stabilizing the U.S. job market may be a stronger strategy for convincing the fastest growing sector of the electorate, the Grand Old Party is still a party worth being a part of.

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    They sure didn't waste any time! Too little too late - I doubt enough hispanics would get on board with the GOP for this. As another poster said, the GOP will lose many many conservatives - far more than the hispanics they think they will gain...It is already ingrained in most peoples heads that the GOP hates them, is racist, and all they care about are rich people. This last election has me convinced America is at a deficit for intelligent voters that can think (critically) for themselves.

    One thing that sets the GOP apart from the Dems is immigration. If they pull this off, there will be no difference between partys (as if there is a lot of difference anyway!)
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    Even if the Reps join the Dems and grant amnesty it will not help their party. People vote for the Dems for a variety of reasons but a lot of it is for the benefits. So if amnesty is granted there will be more Democrats than ever and the Republicans can become even more inconsequential for decades. Both parties created this mess by not enforcing their own laws, how about trying to enforce them for a change?
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    Boehner faces backlash on immigration overture

    By Stephen Dinan
    The Washington Times
    Friday, November 9, 2012



    House Speaker John A. Boehner's overture to Democrats and President Obama on immigration reform is already drawing fire from within the GOP, where lawmakers say he's writing checks that his fellow House Republicans won't cash for him.

    "I'm concerned that Speaker Boehner is getting ahead of House Republicans when he commits to getting a 'comprehensive approach' to immigration taken care of 'once and for all,'" Rep. John Fleming, Louisiana Republican, said in a statement late Thursday, telling Mr. Boehner to "pull back" on his comments.

    In an interview with ABC on Thursday, two days after his party saw Hispanics vote overwhelmingly for Democrats, Mr. Boehner said the time had come to address immigration.

    "This issue has been around far too long and while I believe it's important for us to secure our borders and to enforce our laws, I think a comprehensive approach is long overdue, and I'm confident that the president, myself, others, can find the common ground to take care of this issue once and for all," he said.

    His use of the word "comprehensive" set off alarm bells within the GOP, since that is the term immigrant-rights advocates use for legislation that would legalize most of the 11 million illegal immigrants now in the U.S., as well as rewrite the legal immigration system.

    A number of prominent conservatives have said the election should prompt a rethink of the GOP's stance on immigration. Radio show host Sean Hannity said Thursday that he now supports a pathway to citizenship, and columnist Charles Krauthammer said Republicans should unapologetically embrace amnesty.

    "Yes — amnesty. Use the word," Mr. Krauthammer wrote Thursday in his election analysis.

    Rep. Steve King, Iowa Republican and vice chairman of the House subcommittee that handles immigration, took to Twitter to reject that rethink, saying the GOP shouldn't get into a bidding war with Democrats to try to buy Hispanics' allegiance, because they will never bid high enough.

    "Obama voters chose dependency over Liberty. Now establishment R's want citizenship for illegals. You can't beat Santa Claus with amnesty," Mr. Kind tweeted Thursday evening.

    Friday morning, at his weekly press conference, Mr. Boehner clarified his intentions on the issue.

    "I'm not talking about a 3,000-page bill," he said. "What I'm talking about is a common-sense, step-by-step approach that secures our borders, allows us to enforce our laws and fix our broken immigration system."

    He also repeatedly demanded that President Obama take the lead on the issue.

    But he declined to say whether he would push the House to accept a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants, or what else would be on the table specifically.

    "I'm not going to get into any details of how you would get there, it's just time to get the job done," he said.

    Mr. Boehner also saw criticism for saying he was open to "new revenue" as a way to close the deficit.

    On Wednesday, and again on Friday, Mr. Boehner said he would be willing to accept a deal to avert the looming tax increases and spending cuts if that deal cleaned up the tax code — which he said would produce a stronger economy and therefore more revenue to the government. Fellow Republicans said that, too, should have been discussed within the House Republican Conference first.

    Asked whether he would be able to sell any revenue deal to Republicans, Mr. Boehner was confident.

    "When the president and I have been able to come to an agreement, there's been no problem getting it passed here in the House," he said.

    Boehner faces backlash on immigration overture - Washington Times
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    Quote Originally Posted by ALIPAC View Post
    Here it is folks, the RINO's Boehner, Graham, and Rubio are lining up with Obama to pass Comprehensive Immigration Reform Amnesty for illegal aliens!

    We have to stop them!

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    Added the Washington Times article above to the Homepage with slightly amended title:
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