Thread: Residents doubt border fence will deter undocumented

Residents doubt border fence will deter undocumented
By Adriana M. Chávez / El Paso Times
Article Launched: 05/31/2008 11:30:15 AM MDT


As Sunland Park, N.M. resident Martha Venegas watered her lush front lawn, in a neighborhood shadowed by the construction of the border fence, she said the fence will do little to prevent illegal immigration.
"It's not going to keep them (illegal immigrants) away," said Venegas, adding that she first noticed the fence while walking with her husband along the track at Sunland Park Elementary School. "More people are going to get hurt in the process of jumping it."

Watching her young grandson play, she added: "Let's put ourselves in their place. Their government doesn't care for the people. If I were there, I'd want to come here, too."

Venegas is one of several residents in Sunland Park who are discussing the fence's construction, which inches closer and closer to Sunland Park proper. About 3.75 miles of fencing are under construction near the New Mexico/Mexico border and near the Camino Real Landfill.

Doña Ana County Commissioner Dolores Saldaña-Caviness, who lives in Sunland Park, said she hasn't heard any concerns about the fence from her constituents.

"I have not received any calls regarding the fence, and I'm kind of surprised," Saldaña-Caviness said.

Venegas, who has lived in Sunland Park for about 50 years, has talked about the fence with fellow residents, who she said feel the same way.

"If they (illegal immigrants) have to bring a 20-foot ladder to cross, they'll bring it," Venegas said.

However, other residents, like Rosario Rivera, who has



lived in Sunland Park for 13 years, feel that the fence is a good thing for the community.
"I've heard about people crossing over (the existing chainlink fence) and I think the new fence will do better in keeping (illegals) out," Rivera said in Spanish. "I've talked to my neighbor about it, and we agree with it."

In the past, some residents have raised concerns about the fence crossing over Mount Cristo Rey. U.S. Border Patrol spokesman Agent Ramiro Cordero said that is one of the biggest misconceptions about the fence.

"It's only being placed where it needs a fence," Cordero said. "For example, some areas in New Mexico won't see a fence but another kind of vehicle barrier. This fence (near Sunland Park) serves a dual purpose as both a vehicle and pedestrian barrier."

In El Paso, County Commissioners voted last week to join two lawsuits challenging the U.S. Department of Homeland Security's procedures of obtaining land to build the fence.

"We aren't trying to stop construction, we're trying to get (the Department of Homeland Security) to follow federal, state and local laws during construction," said El Paso County Commissioner Veronica Escobar.

El Paso City Council has also spoken out against cooperating with the Department of Homeland Security to build the fence within city limits.

The fencing in El Paso, which will be 15 to 18 feet in height, is planned to stretch about 57 miles and contain 21 miles of lights, from Socorro to the Fabens port of entry. Other project details include eight bridges across irrigation canals in El Paso and Hudspeth counties and some road work. The government hopes to complete the 670-mile security fence sometime this year.

On Monday, the Border Network for Human Rights will call a news conference to present a petition signed by residents in El Paso County and Southern New Mexico asking Department of Human Security officials to stop construction of the border fence.

Copies of the petition will be given to El Paso County Commissioners, local Border Patrol officials, and state and federal elected officials on Monday, and to City Council on Tuesday, said Fernando Garcia, the organization's executive director.

Adriana M. Chávez may be reached at achavez@elpasotimes.com; 546-6117.







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Residents doubt border fence will deter undocumented

it is intended to slow them down enough so that the border patrol can apprehend them.

We need to start putting 100% behind bars, hard labor for 2 years picking maters and taters to pay for thier cost to the tax payer

Locked doors don't guarentee there is never theft or that you are 100% safe.......but it sure lets the intent be known and the message clear so there's no "Confusion" on the matter.

Fences Work: Consider 14-mile double-layer fence between San Diego and Tijuana, Mexico. Its benefits in stopping illegal entry into the U.S. were immediate and long lasting. According to a 2005 Congressional Research Service report illegal alien apprehensions along the fence region dropped from 202,000 in 1992 to 9,000 in 2004, a reduction greater than 95%. Besides, if fences don't work then why is there one around the White House?

I'm sick of hearing residents don't want the fence at the border. The fence is for the United States, all of it. The fence does work and many residents living along the border welcome it. They feel it will protect them from the invaders who are a menace and a threat to the people who live on the border. Crime doesn't start inland. It starts at the actual border.

And one more thing. I don't think many illegals have a 20 foot ladder handy.

usaborn--
"And one more thing. I don't think many illegals have a 20 foot ladder handy."

Forgive my cynicism, but I am sure there are businessmen on our sideof the border who will gladly provide the ladder to get cheap labor and a potential market for their products.

Originally Posted by USA_born

And one more thing. I don't think many illegals have a 20 foot ladder handy.

Even if they did, that 20 foot drop to the other side is a real bitch.

Originally Posted by USA_born

And one more thing. I don't think many illegals have a 20 foot ladder handy.

Exactly, I cannot picture these people hauling a 20 foot extension ladder all the way through the hot desert. The "if we build a 15-foot high wall, they will climb over using 16-foot ladders" crap is just propaganda..and a load of BS.