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    Caribbean Nations Forced to Take Back Thousands of Deportees in 2013

    Caribbean Nations Forced to Take Back Thousands of Deportees in 2013

    Thursday, 09 January 2014 13:27

    Dominican Republic and Jamaica among top 10 receiving states

    By Tony Best
    Special to the NNPA from the New York Carib News


    Caribbean and Latin America nations topped the list of foreign countries around the world which were forced to accept deportees from the United States in the last fiscal year.


    Mexico, Guatemala, Honduras, El Salvador, Brazil, the Dominican Republic, Columbia, Nicaragua and Jamaica in that order led all countries with well over 300,000 out of the 368,644 immigrants who were showed the immigration door and forcibly returned to their respective birthplaces.


    The Dominican Republic was at the top of the group of Caribbean countries with 2,462 deportees while Jamaica had to accept 1,119 during 2013. Between them Haiti, Guyana, Trinidad and Tobago, Barbados, the Bahamas, Barbados and the Eastern Caribbean received less than 2,000 deportees.


    The new figures released by the Department of Homeland Security showed an overall 10 per cent decline in deportees when compared with the previous year when 410,000 foreign-born residents were removed from the country, most of them for over-staying the time they were first given by officials of the Immigration and Customs Enforcement on their arrival.


    Although the number has fallen, the picture is unlikely to result in an easing of the pressure on the Administration to end its aggressive approach to deporting immigrants. U.S. Representative Yvette Clarke, a Democrat of Brooklyn, has openly called for a suspension of the deportations until Congress has acted on the comprehensive immigration reform proposals which were approved by the Senate several months ago but which were blocked in the House of Representatives by Republicans, who charge that the pathway to citizenship was a form of amnesty that rewarded undocumented immigrants for breaking the law.


    But immigration advocates, including the New York Immigration Coalition have been arguing that deportations were too harsh a treatment for most of the people who weren’t “illegal aliens” but were immigrants who “were out of status,” meaning they were in the country without an extension of their original allotted time.


    The new numbers are expected to trigger a fresh debate about undocumented immigrants and are likely to heighten the divide between the Republicans in the House and their Democratic colleagues. The Republicans are expected to continue to insist that far too many people were in the country illegally and any pathway to citizenship would be an inducement to others to enter the country without permission or remain in the country. But the Democrats are expected to counter that argument by indicating that the Administration was enforcing the way while insisting on a humane way to deal with people already in the country.


    The Administration, said John Sandweg, acting Director for Immigration and Customs Enforcement, was “enforcing our nation’s laws in a smart and effective way, meeting our enforcement priorities by focusing on convicted criminals while also continuing to secure our nation’s borders.”


    Like Clarke, U.S. Congressman Hakeem Jeffries, a freshman lawmaker from Brooklyn, has called on the Republican House leadership in Washington to bring the immigration reform bill to the floor of the chamber for debate and ultimately for action./


    U.S. Congressmen, Charles Rangel of Manhattan and Gregory Meeks, s Democrat from Queens who has been in the lower House for more than a decade, have both called on the “Republican majority” to bring the reform proposals to a vote.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnDoe2 View Post
    Those numbers are almost laughable considering we have at least 20 million illegals and more entering on a daily basis.

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    I remember back in the day when we were happy any time any number of illegal aliens were deported, much less 300,00 illegal aliens in one year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnDoe2 View Post
    I remember back in the day when we were happy any time any number of illegal aliens were deported, much less 300,00 illegal aliens in one year.
    That was before the books were being cooked to up the numbers. Supposedly many of these deportation numbers you keep quoting are being ehanced by counting those caught and returned at the border. During the Bush administration those folks caught and returned at the border weren't counted in the deportation numbers. Do you honestly believe the Obama administration is doing a good job directing the enforcement of our immigration laws?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MW View Post
    . . . Do you honestly believe the Obama administration is doing a good job directing the enforcement of our immigration laws?
    NO. And I never suggested that.
    You keep trying to say that I support Obama.
    I don't, and I never have.
    But I do love to see people deported.
    And I read about the receiving countries complaining about the many deportees being force upon them. Mexican border cities have homeless deportees over running their ability to take care of them. So I know people are being deported by the thousands.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MW View Post
    That was before the books were being cooked to up the numbers. Supposedly many of these deportation numbers you keep quoting are being ehanced by counting those caught and returned at the border. During the Bush administration those folks caught and returned at the border weren't counted in the deportation numbers . . .
    People caught on this side of the border are ILLEGAL ALIENS.
    When they are returned home they are DEPORTED ILLEGAL ALIENS,
    no matter where in the country they were caught.

    But you want some of them called something else and be counted separately?

    You are wasting a lot of time and effort over semantics.

    Me, I'm just glad all of them are gone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnDoe2 View Post
    People caught on this side of the border are ILLEGAL ALIENS.
    When they are returned home they are DEPORTED ILLEGAL ALIENS,
    no matter where in the country they were caught.

    But you want some of them called something else and be counted separately?

    You are wasting a lot of time and effort over semantics.

    Me, I'm just glad all of them are gone.

    You're missing my whole point. Sure we need to secure the border. If that were done, those crossing the border wouldn't be an issue and the Obama administration wouldn't have these large deportation numbers to use as a cover for extremely weak enforcement in our interior. This has nothing to do with semantics but everything to do with bogus numbers being used to give the appearance of strong enforcement. What we need to understand is, Obama has no interest in deporting most of the illegals living in our country (he wants to amnesty those folks). However, he has to continue to make the numbers of deportations look large to give the appearance of strong enforcement. That is why they are now counting those that are turned away at the border. Should those folks really be counted in the deportations numbers? Personally, I don't think so because those numbers are actually having no impact on the illegals already settled, having babies, and thriving in our country. No other administration prior to Obama's counted those folks turned away at the border as deportations, so why should Obama? Think about it and you'll see clearly that it's all a shell game to make him look tough on enforcement when he's actually very weak.

    You keep trying to say that I support Obama.


    Not true. I never said or implied such. I know you don't support Obama. I'm just attempting to tell you why I refuse to get excited about the skewed deportation numbers coming from the Obama administration.

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    No other administration prior to Obama's counted those folks turned away at the border as deportations . . .
    Maybe the problems is the other administrations SHOULD have been counting them.
    (But that's a moot point.)

    Besides, anyone caught on this side of the border isn't "turned away at the border", they are picked up and taken to a processing center for photos, finger prints, and DNA samples, held until it is determined that there are no wants or warrants for them from any city, county, state or federal agency, then returned to the border crossing if they are from Mexico or held until there are enough of them for a flight to their home country if they are from anyplace other than Mexico or Canada. Some from Mexico are even flown to Mexico City.

    Anyway the 306,662 deported by Secure Communities (SEE http://www.alipac.us/f12/306-662-dep...2013-a-295172/ ) doesn't count illegals caught near the border by the border patrol because Secure Communities takes people that have been booked into city, county or state jails by local authorities and identified as illegal aliens when their finger prints are run.

    The border patrol processes all of their captured illegals themselves and run the finger prints themselves so they aren't counted as (Secure Communities deported illegal aliens).

    And with that I am done wasting my time arguing about this with you.
    This is a waste of your time.

    AND I'M STILL HAPPY ANYTIME ANY TIME ANY NUMBER OF ILLEGAL ALIENS IS DEPORTED NO MATTER HOW THEY ARE COUNTED.
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