SENATE VOTES TO GIVE SOCIAL SECURITY TO ILLEGAL ALIENS

I received an email today from my father that the Senate voted this week to allow illegal aliens access to Social Security benefits. Looks as if this worthless waste of oxygen and taxpayer dollars do nothing Congress is at it again during the dead of night. While the American people continue to suffer those butt wipes in DC continue to obey their corporate, Chamber of Commerce, union and big labor masters by making life more comfortable for illegal aliens while they talk about cutting entitlement benefits for Americans. Social security already is 53 trillion dollars in the red and is projected to become insolvent around 2017. This will also encourage even more illegal immigration and identity theft. Time to get the phones going and tell Obama before he signs this crap to get off his illegal alien cheap labor loving butt and start working for the American people and call the traitors on Capital Hell masquerading as so called representatives of the American people.

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THANK YOU

Time to have a tax payers holiday!

Is there an article we can source this with?

H.R.132 : http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/D ... p/~bd6Z68:: To amend title II of the Social Security Act to restrict totalization agreements between the United States and other countries to providing for appropriate exchange of Social Security taxes or contributions between the parties to such agreements, and to prohibit crediting of individuals under such title with earnings from employment or self-employment in the United States performed while such individuals are not citizens, nationals, or lawful permanent residents of the United States and are not authorized by law to be employed in the United States.
Sponsor: Rep Gallegly, Elton [CA-24] (introduced 1/6/2009) Cosponsors (None)
Committees: House Ways and Means
Latest Major Action: 1/6/2009 Referred to House committee. Status: Referred to the House Committee on Ways and Means.

http://capwiz.com/gopusa/webreturn/?url ... z?d111:s.9:

H.R.132 - Total Overhaul of Totalization Agreements Law of 2009 Sponsor: Elton Gallegly / 111th Congress


Title111th Congress - To amend title II of the Social Security Act to restrict totalization agreements between the United States and other countries to providing for appropriate exchange of Social Security taxes or contributions between the parties to such agreements, and to prohibit crediting of individuals under such title with earnings from employment or self-employment in the United States performed while such individuals are not citizens, nationals, or lawful permanent residents of the United States and are not authorized by law to be employed in the United States. hidemore...

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Total Overhaul of Totalization Agreements Law of 2009
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SummaryTo amend title II of the Social Security Act to restrict totalization agreements between the United States and other countries to providing for appropriate exchange of Social Security taxes or contributions between the parties to such agreements, and to prohibit crediting of individuals under such title with earnings from employment or self-employment in the United States performed while such individuals are not citizens, nationals, or lawful permanent residents of the United States and are not authorized by law to be employed in the United States. (by CRS)
StatusThe bill has been introduced

http://maplight.org/map/us/bill/79649/default

Could this be somehow related to the agreement which was reached this past week in the dispute over the Bracero program?

Remember, those people....brought here LEGALLY to work all those decades ago......had a claim to wages and benefits they had been promised and should have received, but were never given.

I know that I read something just this past week which stated that the dispute had been resolved and those who had been able to prove their claims were to be awarded what they had earned and had coming.

To the best of my knowledge, this included SS benefits per what they had paid in as legal workers in this country.

azwreath, from what I have read is that the US sent a percent of the pay due to braceros to the Mexican government (perhaps to make sure these people went home when it was time) and it was the Mexican government that never paid them monies they were due.

It was my understanding that a "Social Security Totalization Agreement with Mexico" sat on Pres. Bush's desk ready for his signature throughout much of his administration. Ordinarily, "social security totalization agreements" between industrialized countries are used to allow executive and upper management personnel who worked overseas during large portions of their careers in which they paid into the social security systems of other nations (including our own) to receive these foreign social security benefits when they retired. However, this other agreement evidentally would apply to everyone who has ever worked in the United States, including illegal aliens.

If this is the same agreement, perhaps it had to be repassed by Congress before President Obama can sign it.

NOTE THE WORD PROHIBIT at the begining of the red words.

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Total Overhaul of Totalization Agreements Law of 2009
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SummaryTo amend title II of the Social Security Act to restrict totalization agreements between the United States and other countries to providing for appropriate exchange of Social Security taxes or contributions between the parties to such agreements, and to prohibit crediting of individuals under such title with earnings from employment or self-employment in the United States performed while such individuals are not citizens, nationals, or lawful permanent residents of the United States and are not authorized by law to be employed in the United States. (by CRS)
StatusThe bill has been introduced

http://maplight.org/map/us/bill/79649/default

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Let's just hope the Dems don't read carefully enough!

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azwreath, from what I have read is that the US sent a percent of the pay due to braceros to the Mexican government (perhaps to make sure these people went home when it was time) and it was the Mexican government that never paid them monies they were due.

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Yes Vortex, I know that part of it and wasn't implying, or even saying, that it was the US who had cheated the Bracero participants out of their due wages and benefits....although would either of us be surprised if the Mexican government would like for those they bilked to think it was this country :lol:

What I was saying was that it's possible there might be some confusion going on where people are misunderstanding what they have read, or heard, or have just been plain misinformed.....about the dispute over the Bracero program having been ironed out....taking it to mean that the US is granting SS to illegal aliens

You know how things like that happen.....it's kind of like the old "telephone game" sometimes. The more something gets repeated, the more screwed up in fact it becomes :D

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NOTE THE WORD PROHIBIT at the begining of the red words.

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Originally Posted by JohnDoe2

Total Overhaul of Totalization Agreements Law of 2009
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SummaryTo amend title II of the Social Security Act to restrict totalization agreements between the United States and other countries to providing for appropriate exchange of Social Security taxes or contributions between the parties to such agreements, and to prohibit crediting of individuals under such title with earnings from employment or self-employment in the United States performed while such individuals are not citizens, nationals, or lawful permanent residents of the United States and are not authorized by law to be employed in the United States. (by CRS)
StatusThe bill has been introduced

http://maplight.org/map/us/bill/79649/default

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JD2.....why are you screaming and repeating yourself? 8O

Everyone heard you the first time :D

Slow down everyone!

Since the Senate has been in session, it has only voted on the following:
S22 Craig Thomas Snake Headwaters Legacy Act of 2008
S181 Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act of 2009
HR2 CHIPS
HR1 Stimulus
Several Confirmation votes
http://senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_ ... _111_1.htm

HR 132 has not been voted on by the Senate or the House. It has been refered to committee.

Dixie

The following is from The Senior Citizens League and is dated August, 2004. This organization has done the most to raise public awareness of this issue and to campaign against it. The influenical American Association of Retired Persons (AARP) refused to speak out against this Agreement or against amnesty legilsation for illegal aliens. Oppostion to Social Security Totalization with Mexico is listed as an issue under "Social Security" on the Senior Citizens League's website: http://www.tscl.org/

U.S. Signs Social Security Agreement With Mexico

The Social Security Administration (SSA) recently signed a highly controversial agreement that could add millions of Mexicans, some who worked here illegally, to the Social Security rolls. The U.S. - Mexico Totalization treaty is still in the preliminary stages of ratification and can be disapproved by Congress. It would allow persons who divided their careers between both countries to “totalâ€

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JD2.....why are you screaming and repeating yourself? 8O

Everyone heard you the first time :D

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Who put you in charge of telling me what to do ?

Feel free to NOT read any comment with my name at the top of it if you so like.

See how easy it is to solve YOUR problem.

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Originally Posted by azwreath

JD2.....why are you screaming and repeating yourself? 8O

Everyone heard you the first time :D

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Who put you in charge of telling me what to do ?

Feel free to NOT read any comment with my name at the top of it if you so like.

See how easy it is to solve YOUR problem.



Oh give it a rest........it was a JOKE!!!

Or did you not see that little smilie at the end of the comment?

As for not reading your comments......I don't mind reading them. ONCE :roll: