Thread: Senior administration officials complaining to Trump about Sessions' handling of bord

Judy wrote:

Same with DACA. Sessions inserted himself into DACA. DACA was rescinded by a Memo signed by Elaine Duke, Acting Secretary of DHS. Why did Sessions hold a press conference announcing what another department was actually doing? Makes no sense.

You're making no sense. Sessions did not support DACA and was intimately involved in it getting it rescinded.

When the Texas Attorney General, Ken Paxton, and his allied state attorney generals filed a lawsuit to end DACA, it was Jeff Sessions that refused to defend it in court because he said it was unconstitutional. He was very much involved in the process. His refusal to defend Trump's DACA may be another one of the reasons Trump is angry with him. Trump did not want to end the program at that time. Now it's anyone's guess as to why that is. Maybe he thought he could still use it as leverage to get what he claimed to want on immigration, which included a DACA amnesty, or maybe he never really did support ending protection for DACA recipients, period.

Originally Posted by Judy

I sure hope so. There's no reason to waste money letting them in, detaining them, processing them, only to release them. We need a different plan, hopefully Trump is coming up with something that will work this time.

Detaining and processing them is a deterrent. Once you are processed as an illegal alien, reentry is then a felony crime punishable by up to 2 years in prison. What you advocate is just releasing them immediately back across the border so they can go a couple miles down the river and try again as if it were the first time they ever crossed. With nothing to deter them, that's exactly what they would do. For goodness sakes, we know our border security isn't much of a deterrent.

Originally Posted by Judy

On June 11, Attorney General Jeff Sessions ruled that the U.S. would no longer accept gang violence or domestic abuse as valid reasons for asylum. Meanwhile, citing lack of space, U.S. agents have started to turn back asylum seekers at ports of entry in recent weeks, leaving throngs of hopefuls at bridges all along the border. Critics say “slow-walking” asylum applicants is just one more measure meant to discourage Central Americans from entering the country.

Repeatedly turned away by U.S. border guards, the Berduo family spent days sleeping on the ground next to the international bridge—trapped in a kind of purgatory that spans the Rio Grande.

'Caravan' of migrants turned away by US border patrol (Video so you can see)


At the U.S. border, asylum seekers fleeing violence are told to come back later
Video allegedly shows U.S. border agents deny asylum seekers in El Paso



This video provided to The Post by the Annunciation House allegedly shows U.S. border agents preventing a Guatemalan man and his son from requesting asylum. (Daniel Rottenborn, Kevin Thompson and Alejandro Márquez/Annunciation House)

told to come back later is NOT stopping

This video did NOT show anyone being turned away!

All I can say to you both is I'm so glad you're happy with the program of letting them in (Sessions law), detaining at our expense (Sessions deterrent), setting them free in the United States with permission (Courts), until they have a hearing with Sessions DOJ. Sounds like everything is going just as you would like it to go based on the law, and shame on that whiner Trump for being dissatisfied.

So what's the problem?

Originally Posted by MW

Judy wrote:



You're making no sense. Sessions did not support DACA and was intimately involved in it getting it rescinded.

When the Texas Attorney General, Ken Paxton, and his allied state attorney generals filed a lawsuit to end DACA, it was Jeff Sessions that refused to defend it in court because he said it was unconstitutional. He was very much involved in the process. His refusal to defend Trump's DACA may be another one of the reasons Trump is angry with him. Trump did not want to end the program at that time. Now it's anyone's guess as to why that is. Maybe he thought he could still use it as leverage to get what he claimed to want on immigration, which included a DACA amnesty, or maybe he never really did support ending protection for DACA recipients, period.

DACA was created by DHS and DHS issued the Memorandum to end or rescind it. So I don't understand why Jeff Sessions made the announcement about it, why didn't DHS announce it, since DACA is their responsibility? That's all. Normally the department responsible for a program they're ending announces it. I didn't understand that at the time, and still don't.

So are you claiming Sessions and Trump were at cross-hairs over DACA, too? Trump wanted to let it expire, he didn't want to rescind it. At least that's what the White House said in February, that the thinking was to let it expire in June.

Originally Posted by Judy

All I can say to you both is I'm so glad you're happy with the program of letting them in (Sessions law),

Really ? Letting them in is Sessions law..... surely you can do better than that.

I like Trump's Law: "We're closed".

Originally Posted by Judy

Border Patrol was doing what Trump said to do, "We're closed", that means don't let them in, keep them out.

Border Control was not keeping them out.

Border Control does not operate on orders from a tweet.

Originally Posted by Judy

I like Trump's Law: "We're closed".

Since when is a tweet a Law?

Originally Posted by Judy

DACA was created by DHS and DHS issued the Memorandum to end or rescind it. So I don't understand why Jeff Sessions made the announcement about it, why didn't DHS announce it, since DACA is their responsibility? That's all. Normally the department responsible for a program they're ending announces it. I didn't understand that at the time, and still don't.

So are you claiming Sessions and Trump were at cross-hairs over DACA, too? Trump wanted to let it expire, he didn't want to rescind it. At least that's what the White House said in February, that the thinking was to let it expire in June.

You keep repeating your untruths so often that maybe even you are starting to believe them!

DACA was rescinded because the Presidents hand was forced and he was had no choice but to direct DHS to rescind it. Trump had no recourse after AG Paxton filed the lawsuit and AG Jeff Sessions refused to defend DACA against the lawsuit.

To answer your question of why Attorney General Sessions responded to the program being rescinded instead of DHS. Duh, it's because he is the top law enforcement official in the country. Furthermore, it was his place to speak to the unconstitutionality of the DACA program. These are things you should know.

No, DACA never had an actual expiration date. Of course this has been proven to you numerous times but yet you continue to repeat it. I specifically remember JD2 providing several linked sources that clearly proved there was no expiration date. Hmm, I guess your attempting to use the technique of repeating a lie so many times people will start to believe it. Well, it won't work on most ALIPAC folks because we're typically more informed than the general public is on immigration issues.

Yes, Trump and Sessions did see DACA differently. Although Trump campaigned on ending DACA immediately after moving into the White House, he instead discovered he suddenly had "heart". However, Sessions never wavered from his position that DACA was unconstitutional and it must be ended. Trump wanted continued protection for the DACA "kids" because of his newly discovered "heart". His goal was to eventually give them amnesty. He actually offered the Democrats a DACA amnesty trade but the Democrats wouldn't deal.

These are all things you know, so acting ignorant because the truth doesn't fit your agenda is very disingenuous.