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    Trump: Keep immigrants who work the farms

    Trump: Keep immigrants who work the farms

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    During a speech to the American Farm Bureau Federation, President Donald Trump said that we need to build the wall to "keep the wrong ones" out, but Trump says he will make it easier for migrants who help farmers to become citizens.
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    Trump says he will make it easier for migrants who help farmers to become citizens.
    More Fake News. Trump never said that. He said he would make it easier for them to come in and work the farms legally. He never said anything about "to become citizens". The Goodlatte bill which Trump supported and worked on changed the agricultural visa to make it easier for farmers to use legal agricultural workers instead of illegal aliens by simplifying the process a little bit as well as changing the term of the visa from 6 months to 1 year renewable for 3 years.
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    Rallying farmers, Trump pushes border wall but opens door to more immigrants in agriculture jobs


    President Trump addresses the National Farm Bureau Federation's 100th convention in New Orleans on Jan. 14. (Carlos Barria/Reuters)

    By Annie Gowen and
    David Nakamura
    January 14 at 4:18 PM


    NEW ORLEANS — President Trump sought to rally thousands of farmers here behind his push for a border wall, but he offered one exception to his hard-line immigration stance, promising to allow seasonal farmworkers to more easily enter the country.


    Trump spent most of his hour-long address to the American Farm Bureau Federation’s annual convention defending his decision to shut down the government over the fight for funding for a border wall and railing against the dangers of drugs and undocumented immigrants.


    But speaking to farmers, who have faced a shortage of temporary workers as the economy has strengthened, Trump pledged to pursue changes to immigration laws that would “actually make it easier for them to help the farmers because you need these people.”


    “A lot of people don’t understand this. You need people to help you with the farms. I’m not going to rule that out,” Trump said, drawing cheers from the crowd.


    [Already reeling from tariff war, some farmers aren’t receiving government support checks amid shutdown]


    The president’s remarks, coming on the 24th day of the longest partial government shutdown in the country’s history, aimed to solidify support among a key constituency at a time when the Trump administration remains locked in a trade war with China that has negatively affected some agricultural sectors.


    Chinese purchases of U.S. soybeans plummeted after the trade war began this summer, according to the Department of Agriculture, although Beijing did buy a small quantity of U.S. soybeans in December.


    The farming federation has stood by Trump, even as its delegate body was set to debate Tuesday whether to toughen its policy stance on tariffs as a result of Trump’s trade war.


    Trump spoke only briefly about his trade dispute with China and said talks with Beijing were “going very well.” He touted a revised trade accord between the United States, Mexico and Canada and urged Congress to ratify that deal.


    And he said the Agriculture Department is “doing everything within its power to help farmers deal with the ongoing shutdown.”


    [As shutdown stalls farm bailout, Trump team extends deadline]


    Of the standoff with Democrats over Trump’s refusal to sign a spending bill without at least $5.7 billion in border wall funding, the president said:

    “We’re fighting very hard to defend our nation.”

    He added that ordinary Americans are missing paychecks but said many have sent him messages that “we agree with you 100 percent.”


    Trump’s appearance here highlighted the importance of the organization to him. During the shutdown, he has canceled a *vacation at his Mar-a-Lago resort in Florida, and aides said he called off a trip to an economic forum in Davos, Switzerland, later this month. Last year, Trump became the first president to address the farmers’ convention since George H.W. Bush.


    Steven McCloud, a livestock and small grain farmer from Newton, Kan., said that farmers remain “cautiously optimistic” that the trade war will come to a conclusion that will benefit them in the end. But with the tariffs, along with bad weather, “it’s been a tough year,” he said.


    The trade war “is going to cost us a little bit now, but a better trade deal will benefit the next generation to come,” said Bob Schwenke, a corn and soybean farmer from Kentucky. He said his income may take a 5 percent hit in 2018, and if the trade war continues it could be 15 percent next year. Asked how long he would put up with such losses before getting grumpy, he quipped, “I’ve been grumpy all my life.”


    [President Trump signs $867 billion farm bill into law]


    The Trump administration has initiated a program to help tariff-damaged farmers that includes about $11 billion in direct cash assistance to farmers — the bulk of which would go to soybean producers — as well as $1 billion to purchase excess supply and distribute it to food banks and nutrition programs.


    Without that bailout money, farmers said, their situation would be far more dire.


    “If it wasn’t for that, there would be some farmers who were in bad shape,” said Bo Mason, who grows rice, corn and soybeans in Arkansas. An independent voter who once voted for Obama, he voted for Trump in 2016 because “there wasn’t any other choice.” In 2020, he says, he will weigh the Democratic candidate carefully.


    Outside the hall, where Toby Keith music boomed, Earl Williams Jr., a Rockford, Ill., corn and soybean farmer who is on the board of directors of the Illinois Farm Bureau, said that the trade war has to end.

    “We’ve got to do something. This is killing us in the Midwest,” he said. “We’ve managed to alienate so many of our traditional trading partners.”

    But other farmers said that China had it coming — “they’ve manipulated our markets for years,” Mason said — and expressed optimism that trade negotiators would soon reach an agreement.


    “I think they will. The problem is China is hardheaded and Trump is a hardhead, too,” said Mason Sickel, who grows rice and soybeans in Arkansas. “Put a pair of those together and it will take a while to resolve the argument.”


    During his speech, Trump warned against the dangers of illegal immigration. He also criticized legal immigration programs that aim to reunite families, which he derisively calls “chain migration” — even though first lady Melania Trump’s parents, who this year gained U.S. citizenship, are thought to have first been awarded green cards, allowing them legal permanent residency, through that process.


    The Trump administration allowed a one-time increase over the summer of 15,000 H-2B visas for seasonal nonagricultural workers — a 45 percent increase in that category — amid demands from businesses during a period of low unemployment.


    Immigrant farmworkers are admitted through a separate H-2A visa program. Trump administration officials have said they are looking at streamlining the rules to offer employers more flexibility.


    “It’s going to be easier for them to get in
    than what they have to go through now,” the president said of those workers, before adding: “I know a lot about the farming world.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    More Fake News. Trump never said that. He said he would make it easier for them to come in and work the farms legally. He never said anything about "to become citizens". The Goodlatte bill which Trump supported and worked on changed the agricultural visa to make it easier for farmers to use legal agricultural workers instead of illegal aliens by simplifying the process a little bit as well as changing the term of the visa from 6 months to 1 year renewable for 3 years.
    We don't live in a mild Mediterranean climate with a year-round growing season. Why would farmers need a 1 year H-2A agricultural visa that can be renewed for 3 solid years? The H-2A is a temporary seasonal visa program. It's not permanent and it shouldn't be for 3 straight years! That defeats the whole purpose of the original design of the program. These folks are supposed to spend as much time in their home country as they do here so as not to encourage them to stay forever.

    In the video Trump talked about farmers who had individual migrant workers for 20-25 years and he thinks they should be able to keep those folks. What Trump is endorsing will make it easier, and encourage, more foreign labor agricultural workers to eventually become illegal.

    The agricultural community has won him over just like corporations and big businesses. Trump wants to remove some of the protections we currently have on visas so businesses will have a free hand to bring foreign labor in hand over fist. Yep, doesn't exactly jive with his "Americans first" comments. Trump has been turned from his original campaign position on foreign labor. Seems he's drifting away from his Americans first.

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    California and several southern states are year round on crops, fruits, vegetables. Many midwest farmers also work year round. The beef, cattle, dairy, pork and chicken farmers are year round as well. The ag visa workers are vetted, the ennployers have to pay prevailing wage so as not to undercut American Workers who are interested in the jobs, verify there's a shortage and they actually need the foreign workers, the farmer is responsible for them as well, making sure they follow the rules and leave when they're supposed to do so. Trump didn't campaign on an anti-immigrant platform, he said over and over and over, that he supports a legal immigration merit-based system. He wants lower overall numbers on legal immigration, but he's never said he wanted to end all legal immigration. Never, not once, quite the opposite.

    The road to ending illegal immigration and/or abuse of existing visa programs is having a legal program at market wage that meets their work needs. Once the farmers are using legal workers paying them the same as an American Worker, there will be less use of foreign workers, when American Workers are available and interested in the jobs, less illegal aliens working in our country, more opportunities at good wages and benefits for American Workers, and an overall reduction in immigration, both illegal and legal.
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    President Trump offered support for dreamers last week, talked up citizenship for H-1b visa holders after the dreamer love talk, and today spoke about the need for more foreign farm workers and his desire to make it easier to get and keep them. Meanwhile, we are only deporting a trickle of illegal aliens out of the 20-30 million, anchor babies are being born everyday due to our porous borders, the older ones are voting, numbers keep growing.

    Talk and promises of "America First" but so many disappoint us with their focus on amnesty and more foreign citizen workers. Thirty years of waiting and hoping and little changes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    California and several southern states are year round on crops, fruits, vegetables. Many midwest farmers also work year round. The beef, cattle, dairy, pork and chicken farmers are year round as well. The ag visa workers are vetted, the ennployers have to pay prevailing wage so as not to undercut American Workers who are interested in the jobs, verify there's a shortage and they actually need the foreign workers, the farmer is responsible for them as well, making sure they follow the rules and leave when they're supposed to do so. Trump didn't campaign on an anti-immigrant platform, he said over and over and over, that he supports a legal immigration merit-based system. He wants lower overall numbers on legal immigration, but he's never said he wanted to end all legal immigration. Never, not once, quite the opposite.

    The road to ending illegal immigration and/or abuse of existing visa programs is having a legal program at market wage that meets their work needs. Once the farmers are using legal workers paying them the same as an American Worker, there will be less use of foreign workers, when American Workers are available and interested in the jobs, less illegal aliens working in our country, more opportunities at good wages and benefits for American Workers, and an overall reduction in immigration, both illegal and legal.
    The primary abuse of the H-2A program is it's lack of use. Farmers consider the current program to cumbersome. They want to eliminate many of the protections that place American workers first. Believe it or not, there are American workers on many of the farms. Additionally, the farmers (overall) have more American citizen workers than they do H-2A workers. There is no limit to the H-2A workers a farmer can hire, however, many of them still shy away from the program because they consider it cumbersome and costly when compared to illegal labor. I've heard it said that somewhere between 60-90%, depending on the farm, of the workers are illegal aliens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgiaPeach View Post
    President Trump offered support for dreamers last week, talked up citizenship for H-1b visa holders after the dreamer love talk, and today spoke about the need for more foreign farm workers and his desire to make it easier to get and keep them. Meanwhile, we are only deporting a trickle of illegal aliens out of the 20-30 million, anchor babies are being born everyday due to our porous borders, the older ones are voting, numbers keep growing.

    Talk and promises of "America First" but so many disappoint us with their focus on amnesty and more foreign citizen workers. Thirty years of waiting and hoping and little changes.


    Well said, GeorgiaPeach! Where's that darn deportation force we were promised?

    Has anyone heard anything about any corporate farm raids? Me neither. Those big farms are full of illegal alien labor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MW View Post
    The primary abuse of the H-2A program is it's lack of use. Farmers consider the current program to cumbersome. They want to eliminate many of the protections that place American workers first. Believe it or not, there are American workers on many of the farms. Additionally, the farmers (overall) have more American citizen workers than they do H-2A workers. There is no limit to the H-2A workers a farmer can hire, however, many of them still shy away from the program because they consider it cumbersome and costly when compared to illegal labor. I've heard it said that somewhere between 60-90%, depending on the farm, of the workers are illegal aliens.
    Yes, too cumbersome and too short a span for the way they farm today. That's why they're changing it to make it more usable, they're also putting a cap on it. They're actually ending the old program and writing a new one. That was in the Goodlatte bill.
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