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    14 States Craft Bill to Deny Citizenship to 'Anchor Babies'

    State lawmakers preparing citizenship legislation

    By PAUL DAVENPORT and AMANDA LEE MYERS, Associated Press Writer,
    Tuesday, October 19, 2010 at 10:17 a.m.

    PHOENIX — Lawmakers in states across the country say they're joining to work on proposed legislation denying U.S. citizenship to children born in this country to parents who are illegal immigrants.

    Republican state Sen. Russell Pearce, the sponsor of Arizona's 2010 law targeting illegal immigration, says the national group intends to have model legislation that could stand a constitutional challenge.

    The effort comes amid calls to change the Constitution's 14th Amendment to deny automatic citizenship to U.S.-born children of illegal immigrants.

    Pennsylvania state Rep. Daryl Metcalfe held a news conference Tuesday announcing the effort. Pearce and other Arizona lawmakers also planned to meet with reporters.

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    Proposals to deny citizenship to illegal immigrants' children in the works, lawmaker says

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    Oct. 19, 2010 09:43 AM
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    Lawmakers in states across the country are combining to work on proposed legislation to deny U.S. citizenship to children born in this country to parents who are illegal immigrants, the sponsor of Arizona's 2010 law targeting illegal immigration said Tuesday.

    "We're taking a leadership role on things that need to be fixed in America. We can't get Congress to do it," said Republican state Sen. Russell Pearce. "It's a national work group so that we have model legislation that we know will be successful, that meets the constitutional criteria."


    The efforts by some state legislators comes amid calls to change the Constitution's 14th Amendment to deny automatic citizenship to U.S.-born children of illegal immigrants. They cite costs to taxpayers for services provided to illegal immigrants and their children.

    Pennsylvania state Rep. Daryl Metcalfe, the founder of a national group of legislators critical of illegal immigration, said the 14th Amendment "greatly incentives foreign invaders to violate our border and our laws." He had a news conference in Harrisburg on the multistate effort.

    Pearce was the main sponsor of a controversial Arizona law on illegal immigration and state and local law enforcement. Key provisions have been put on hold by a judge pending resolution of a legal challenge. He also was the chief sponsor of a 2007 state law targeting employers who knowingly hire illegal immigrants.

    Pearce and fellow Arizona legislators plan a Tuesday afternoon news conference to announce the effort.

    Pearce said the legislation has yet to be drafted, and he declined to comment on possible approaches, including whether it would focus on the issuance of state birth certificates.

    "We're going to address the issue of the unconstitutional declaration of citizenship to those born to non-citizens," he said. "It is a violation of the 14th Amendment," Pearce said.

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    This is the single most important issue to stop the welfare and benefits drain. Once a gateway anchor baby is born, then they apply for food stamps, WIC, Section 8 and welfare benefits and of course Medicaid. Even though the illegal may be working and making more money than most, without documents and proof it always appears there is no money coming in as income, therefore they qualify for the highest amounts in benefits.

    Way to go Sen. Pearce.

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    No amendment on 14th is necessary...14th does NOT repeat DOES NOT guarantee citizenship to children of ambassadors or ILLEGAL ALIENS. When are you Republicans going to start SHOUTING THIS ACROSS THE LAND before we are turned into a third world country!!!

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    what part don't they under stand we are the voice of american we all,have right also . I still say this is Obama doing. he will block any thing to get the illegal immigrant In our country . he is no good we all have to figth .
    Thank you for the news ALIPAC . ICE do your job put all of them in Jail so Mail them home Iwalk at side my door & all i see are Mexico Im so sick of them they have Our country a S mess
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    Quote Originally Posted by stevietwiz
    No amendment on 14th is necessary...14th does NOT repeat DOES NOT guarantee citizenship to children of ambassadors or ILLEGAL ALIENS. When are you Republicans going to start SHOUTING THIS ACROSS THE LAND before we are turned into a third world country!!!
    Why are you saying "Republicans" must scream about this ? How about Indies & Democrats ? After all this is a mixed board of voters of different political beliefs except Illegal Immigration.

    ALL Americans must continue to educate citizens about this issue.

    BTW if you look through ALIPAC'S Archives you will see a great deal of shouting and frustration by ALIPACERS about the 14th Amendment being misused and misread.
    "A Government big enough to give you everything you want,is strong enough to take everything you have"* Thomas Jefferson

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevietwiz
    No amendment on 14th is necessary...14th does NOT repeat DOES NOT guarantee citizenship to children of ambassadors or ILLEGAL ALIENS. When are you Republicans going to start SHOUTING THIS ACROSS THE LAND before we are turned into a third world country!!!
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    This should have been challenged 2 decades ago. But that would have made too much since at the time.... TS

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    I hope this passes soon. I see too many anchor babies supporting the open borders. They should also revoke the citizenship of those with illegal parents.
    We recognize that if you really want to create a job tomorrow, you can remove an illegal alien today

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    Proposals to deny citizenship to illegal immigrants' children in the works, lawmaker says

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    Oct. 19, 2010 03:33 PM
    The Arizona Republic

    Arizona Sen. Russell Pearce, R-Mesa, and a group of Republican lawmakers on Tuesday announced a nationwide effort to change the way the 14th Amendment is interpreted and stop granting citizenship to babies born in the U.S. to illegal immigrants.

    A national coalition called State Legislators for Legal Immigration is coordinating the effort. Lawmakers from 15 states including Arizona held news conferences Tuesday to support proposing state legislation in their respective states.


    Kansas lawyer Kris Kobach, who helped Pearce craft Senate Bill 1070, is working with Pearce and Rep. John Kavanagh, R-Fountain Hills, to draft a bill that all the states could propose. Pearce said a draft is written and will be ready when the Arizona session starts in January but would not say exactly how they will propose denying citizenship to the babies.

    Previous attempts in Arizona have focused on tinkering with state-issued birth certificates.

    Pearce said the legislation would not be retroactive. When the media asked Pearce how the state would prove citizenship in a delivery room, he said delayed birth certificates could be given to allow parents time to gather proof of citizenship. Pearce did not answer when the media asked if both parents would be required to be citizens or just one.

    States have oversight over birth certificates and, to an extent, over who can receive state services, but citizenship is a federal issue.

    Creating different birth certificates, or giving different people different levels of access to state services based on information on birth certificates, would open the state to federal lawsuits. The lawsuits could argue that the state is pre-empting federal authority and violating federal laws that say all citizens are due equal protection.

    Kavanagh, Pearce and the other lawmakers say that's exactly what they want: to force these lawsuits so the issue could appear before the Supreme Court, which could possibly reinterpret its earlier decision on the 14th Amendment.


    History

    The 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution was ratified in 1868and states that "all persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."

    The amendment's primary intent was to guarantee citizenship to African-Americans, particularly former slaves. But the question of whether the authors also intended to allow the children of illegal immigrants to become citizens has been a matter of debate since its inception.

    The dispute focuses on the phrase "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" and the fact that additional Congressional acts were later passed to grant citizenship to Native Americans born on reservations.

    Opponents of birthright citizenship argue that illegal immigrants are not subject to U.S. jurisdiction. Others counter that the words merely were meant to exclude U.S.-born children of foreign diplomats or of occupying enemy armies.

    In 1898, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that the U.S.-born son of an immigrant Chinese couple did become a citizen at birth under the 14th Amendment despite the fact that at the time his parents were ineligible for citizenship.

    That ruling has been interpreted to apply to all babies born in the U.S. and is what opponents of birthright citizenship want the Supreme Court to reconsider.

    "We've allowed the hijacking of the 14th Amendment," Pearce said. "We've allowed it to rob the legacy of African Americans, and we've allowed it to be misapplied."

    Pearce said illegal immigrants are not subject to U.S. jurisdiction because, for example, they are not subject to any military draft or required to serve on a jury.

    Kavanagh called the current interpretation a "nonsensical policy of awarding citizenship … on the irrational criteria of your GPS location."

    He said that when the 14th Amendment was written, the "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" wording meant individuals who owed their sole allegiance to the United States.

    "That's why it didn't bestow citizenship to Native Americans," he said. "They were sovereign to their own tribe."


    Possible proposals

    Some advocates have proposed repealing or changing the 14th Amendment, but both Kavanagh and Pearce have said they find that unnecessary. They want the Supreme Court to reconsider its interpretation. To make that happen, Kavanagh said he and Pearce are focusing on making a change in state law or procedure to spur lawsuits that would end up before the high court.

    Previous efforts in Arizona to change the way the state handles birth certificates have failed.

    In 2007, an initiative called the Birthright Citizenship Alignment Act that would have required hospitals to check the citizenship of the parents of newborns failed to make the ballot.

    In 2008, former state Sen. Karen Johnson, R-Mesa, proposed asking voters to change the way the state issues birth certificates. Birth certificates would have still been given to children of illegal immigrants, but the certificates would have stated "that the child was born to parents who were not in this country legally and that the child is not eligible for benefits that require United States citizenship."

    Pearce, a state representative at the time, was one of the sponsors.

    The bill was never given a committee hearing.

    Kavanagh and Pearce have said they don't yet know if the new legislation would be similar to what Johnson proposed. Kavanagh has also said he does not know yet who would be charged with confirming a parent's legal status should he and Pearce take that approach.

    On Tuesday morning, Gov. Jan Brewer declined to say whether she would support their effort.

    "I have not heard all the debate," she said. "We'll look forward to listening to it and seeing it vetted in the legislative process and make some determinations at that time."

    When asked if she had concerns about another lawsuit so soon on the heels of the SB 1070 lawsuit now before the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit, she said she's always concerned about lawsuits.

    "No one wants to be in court," she said. "No one wants to be fighting with the federal government." But she said it's up to the Legislature to determine what is good for the people of Arizona and propose legislation that reflects that.

    "Then when it comes to the Governor's Office, we'll determine if it's good legislation or not good legislation," she said.


    Argument

    Opponents of the Supreme Court's current interpretation of the 14th Amendment say it has spurred citizens of other nations to come to the United States to give birth. Those children then have access to social services and can provide a more direct route for their parents to become citizens. Having an immediate relative who is a citizen can speed up the lengthy process.

    According to a study released in August by the Pew Hispanic Center, about 340,000 children were born in the U.S. to illegal immigrants in 2008. Most were born to parents who had lived in the U.S. for more than a year.

    Pew researchers could not say how many of those children were born in Arizona but did say that about 4 percent of the nation's illegal immigrants are in Arizona. If 4 percent of the 340,000 children in the U.S. born to illegal immigrants are also in Arizona, that would equate to about 13,600 children born in Arizona in 2008. Kavanagh has said his primary concern is not parents using their children to become citizens but the amount of money the children cost taxpayers because, as citizens, they have access to social services such as health care and welfare.

    There are a number of Arizona taxpayer-funded services that non-citizens are eligible for, such as public school. But only legal residents can get food stamps, cash assistance under the needy-families program, a driver's license and in-state college tuition.

    Several small groups of protestors showed up to Pearce's news conference Tuesday, including one who waved an opposition flier in his face before being escorted several feet away by legislative staff and a police officer.

    Lydia Guzman, president of the civil-rights coalition Somos America, said she was outraged by the new legislative effort.

    "I believe the authors of the Constitution are rolling over in their graves right now," she said. "What I see here is picking and choosing what part of the Constitution a person likes. That is un-American."

    She said lawsuits will be filed if the bill becomes law.

    Carlos Garcia with Puente predicted the bill will make Arizona the circus it became following the passage of SB 1070.

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