Thread: Time Magazine: Illegals may be Person of the Year

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by: Douglas Ernst
Tuesday, November 27, 2012


A illegal immigrant climbs over a fence at the U.S.-Mexico border. Time magazine is asking readers whether illegal immigrants should be considered its Person of the Year 2012. Photo Credit:AP

Time magazine is asking readers to vote on whether illegal immigrants should be deemed its Person of the Year 2012. The publication says the group is " 'labeled illegal' by many," although it does not clarify how individuals coming into a country in violation of immigration laws could be defined any other way.



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A student protester's t-shirt during a demonstration for an end to deportations on June 15, 2012 in Los Angeles, California.

What do undocumented immigrants, Karl Rove, Jon Stewart and Korean rapper Psy of "Gangnam Style" infamy have in common? They're all nominees for TIME's 2012 Person of the Year.

The magazine is asking readers to choose from among 40 nominee suggestions "the person you think most influenced the news this year for better or worse." As has happened in other years, some nominees are not a particular person but rather a newsworthy group of people, such as 2011's Person of the Year, "The Protester."

Why undocumented immigrants, and why this year? As TIME's Howard Chua-Eoan explains, this constituency found itself at the center of a major policy decision during the summer, when President Obama announced plans to grant temporary legal status to some young immigrants under deferred action. They also may have indirectly swayed the election, in turn potentially influencing future immigration policy. Chua-Eoan writes:

Suddenly the logjam of immigration reform shifted, as more than 1 million undocumented young people who had been in the country for the past five years found themselves with new opportunities. What is more, the sympathies of other groups of people who have undocumented relatives — and thus are mindful of their plight — may have clearly shifted to a President on a campaign for re-election, as evidenced by the preponderance of Hispanic and Asian-American voters casting their ballots for Obama.

Chastened by the results of the vote, the GOP has warmed to a legislative fix, increasing chances of comprehensive reform.

TIME is asking readers to click on circles marked "definitely" or "no way." So far, the "no ways" are in the lead (28,092), compared with 16,187 "definitely" votes for undocumented immigrants. The winner in the running so far is the new president of Egypt, Mohamed Morsy, with 174,238 "definitely" votes.

Voting closes at 11:59 p.m. on Dec. 12. The magazine plans to announce the winner Dec. 14. The Person of the Year cover issue, dated Dec. 31, goes on sale Dec. 21.

In the meantime, you can also weigh in our (nonscientific) poll, below, and share your thoughts below. (Voting in our poll won't affect TIME's decision; you can vote in their poll at this link.)

Multi-American : Should 'undocumented immigrants' be named TIME's Person of the Year? (poll) | 89.3 KPCC

Poll Results

Here Are the Results (So far.)


BAUMGARTNER, DOUGLAS, CLINTON, MAYER, OBAMA, PSY, RYAN: GETTY IMAGES; MORSY: AP; YOUSAFZAI: CORBIS

As always, TIME's editors will choose the Person of the Year (issue date December 31, 2012, on sale December 21). The winner of the people's choice for the person who most influenced the news this year for better or worse will be announced on December 14. Voting closes at 11:59 PM on December 12th.

Name	Definitely	No Way
Mohamed Morsy	199,973	211,398
Kim Jong Un	153,293	57,055
Malala Yousafzai	88,295	26,646
Stephen Colbert	49,550	36,282
Psy	46,263	49,813
Bashar Assad	45,945	72,015
The Mars Rover	45,100	31,852
Barack Obama	41,865	54,248
Undocumented Immigrants	37,759	38,856
The Higgs Boson Particle	33,157	28,729
Felix Baumgartner	29,571	40,917
Jon Stewart	27,817	32,552
Pussy Riot	25,057	40,808
Hillary Clinton	24,930	43,634
Aung San Suu Kyi and Thein Sein	24,288	29,657
Bill Clinton	22,488	41,641
Michael Phelps	21,835	46,910
Gabby Douglas	19,346	39,083
Ai Weiwei	18,225	37,787
Sandra Fluke	17,602	42,770
Chris Christie	13,538	44,342
Joe Biden	13,354	49,111
John Roberts	11,451	40,075
Mitt Romney	11,262	60,940
Mo Farah	10,011	39,258
Benjamin Netanyahu	9,926	71,064
Marissa Mayer	9,789	44,384
Michael Bloomberg	9,318	47,484
Paul Ryan	8,469	53,832
Jay-Z	6,848	54,893
Mario Draghi	5,777	41,804
Tim Cook	5,701	49,197
Xi Jinping	4,814	40,739
Bo Xilai	3,764	47,307
Sheldon Adelson	3,039	74,630
E.L. James	2,666	51,257
Karl Rove	2,613	53,807
Roger Goodell	2,413	47,602

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Really, that is the best that the socialist rag could come up with? No wonder this world has sunk into depraved darkness ..

Name	Definitely	No Way
Mohamed Morsy	203,435	217,014
Kim Jong Un	156,661	59,593
Malala Yousafzai	94,566	27,472
Stephen Colbert	53,315	37,430
Psy	47,840	51,431
Bashar Assad	47,095	74,027
The Mars Rover	46,879	32,725
Barack Obama	43,286	55,801
Undocumented Immigrants	40,949	40,224
The Higgs Boson Particle	34,720	29,607
Felix Baumgartner	30,558	42,182
Jon Stewart	29,085	33,498
Pussy Riot	26,166	42,015
Hillary Clinton	25,967	44,942
Aung San Suu Kyi and Thein Sein	25,366	30,535
Bill Clinton	23,316	42,967
Michael Phelps	22,461	48,501
Gabby Douglas	20,069	40,455
Ai Weiwei	18,994	38,879
Sandra Fluke	18,562	44,149
Chris Christie	13,990	45,927
Joe Biden	13,950	50,663
John Roberts	11,905	41,357
Mitt Romney	11,625	63,227
Mo Farah	10,358	40,616
Benjamin Netanyahu	10,342	72,948
Marissa Mayer	10,182	45,857
Michael Bloomberg	9,666	49,079
Paul Ryan	8,737	55,947
Jay-Z	7,111	56,870
Mario Draghi	6,015	43,231
Tim Cook	5,916	50,942
Xi Jinping	5,007	42,129
Bo Xilai	3,923	48,863
Sheldon Adelson	3,128	76,934
E.L. James	2,756	53,183
Karl Rove	2,704	55,777
Roger Goodell	2,516	49,384

The only one is Chris Christie the other 's No way
No amnestyor Dream act

Originally Posted by southBronx

The only one is Chris Christie the other 's No way
No amnestyor Dream act

Chris Christie supports Comprehensive Immigration Reform Amnesty for illegal aliens which makes him a huge hypocrite after making a big deal of opposing licenses and in-state tuition for illegals to win the Governorship against traitor Corzine.

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http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2011/09/chris_christie_flaws.html

CHRIS CHRISYIE

1. Illegal Immigration
The biggest chink in Rick Perry's armor so far has been his record on illegal immigration — specifically, the legislation he passed as governor to allow illegal immigrants to pay the in-state tuition rate when attending state colleges and universities. It's this policy that has led many Republicans to question whether Perry really gets illegal immigration at all. But Chris Christie is hardly the ally that illegal-immigration foes are looking for. In 2010, Christie told Politico that America needs to come up with a "clear path to citizenship." He didn't say "for illegal immigrants," but since America already has a clear path to citizenship for legal immigrants, that's what he meant. This is an entirely reasonable and mainstream position, but in much of the GOP, they call it "amnesty."

Christie's opponents could also point to the time he insisted that being in the country illegally is not a crime but an "administrative matter." He's right — simply overstaying your visa, for example, can get you deported but can't land you in jail. But to impassioned illegal-immigration warriors, we're not sure the nuance will be appreciated.

Then there's Christie's record on illegal immigration as a U.S. Attorney in New Jersey, the job he held before he became governor. Back in 2008, Bill Tucker, a producer on Lou Dobbs's now-deceased CNN show, could only find thirteen illegal-immigration cases prosecuted by Christie's office between 2002 and 2007. Tucker compared that to the U.S. Attorney's office in Kansas, which, despite a much smaller population, prosecuted 597 cases in the same time period. "This man is an utter embarrassment," Dobbs wailed.

2. Gun Control
In an October 2009 appearance on Sean Hannity's Fox News show, Christie voiced support for some gun-control laws:

HANNITY: Are there any issues where you are, quote, moderate to left as a Republican?

CHRISTIE: Listen, I favor some of the gun-control measures we have in New Jersey.

HANNITY: Bad idea.

CHRISTIE: Listen, we have a densely-populated state, and there's a big hand gun problem in New Jersey. Now, I don't support all the things that the governor supports by a long stretch. But I think on guns — certain gun control issues, looking at it from a law-enforcement perspective, seeing how many police officers were killed, we have an illegal gun problem in New Jersey.

HANNITY: Should every — should every citizen in the state be allowed to get a licensed weapon if they want one?

CHRISTIE: In New Jersey, that's not going to happen, Sean.

HANNITY: Why?

CHRISTIE: Listen, the Democratic legislature we have, there's no way those type of things — listen, at the end of the day, what I support are common sense laws that will allow people to protect themselves, but I also am very concerned about the safety of our police officers on the streets, very concerned. And I want to make sure that we don't have an abundance of guns out there.

Again, most people believe in having some "common sense" gun-control laws. But when politicians say "common sense gun-control laws," conservatives hear "seize all weapons and ban hunting and make everyone eat tofu." Compare Christie's even-handedness on guns to Perry, who literally goes jogging with a laser-sighted pistol in case he needs to shoot any coyotes. When Perry was asked earlier this month whether the supports gun control, he responded, "I am actually for gun control. Use both hands."


3. Climate Change
Rick Perry claims that climate change is a hoax that scientists have concocted as a way to get more funding. Chris Christie, after going back and forth on the issue a bit, said just this August that "climate change is real" and "human activity plays a role in these changes." As for those scheming scientists, Christie said that "when you have over 90 percent of the world’s scientists who have studied this stating that climate change is occurring and that humans play a contributing role, it’s time to defer to the experts."


4. Race to the Top
Race to the Top, the federal program created by President Obama and Education Secretary Arne Duncan in which large grants are offered to states that reform their education systems, shouldn't necessarily be a problem for conservatives. After all, some of the reforms Race to the Top hopes to incentivize, such as measuring teachers based on the success of their students, are goals shared by Republicans.

But apparently it's a sin these days to support anything the Obama administration does. In the last GOP debate, Rick Perry proclaimed that "there is one person on this stage that is for Obama's Race to the Top and that is Governor Romney," adding, "[T]hat is not conservative." Mitt Romney then tied himself up in knots trying to deny the accusation. "I'm not sure exactly what he's saying," Romney claimed. "I don't support any particular program that he's describing."


Well, we know Chris Christie supports Race to the Top, because as governor, he applied for its funds. Christie also called Obama a "great ally" in education reform and praised Duncan as an "extraordinary leader on this issue."


5. Muslims
Remember when people pretended, for a little while, that the ground-zero mosque was a slap in the face of the victims of 9/11? In the heat of the controversy, as Republican politicians demagogued the issue to death, Christie claimed that the mosque was "being used as a political football by both parties." He added that while we must "give some measure of deference to the feelings" of 9/11 families, "it would be wrong to so overreact to that, that we paint Islam with a brush of radical Muslim extremists that just want to kill Americans because we are Americans."


And while we're talking about Muslims, Christie came under fire by some anti-Islam hysterics this summer for his appointment of Sohail Mohammed to New Jersey Superior Court. Mohammed, a Muslim lawyer, at one point represented Mohammed Qatanani, a New Jersey imam facing deportation who had alleged past ties to Hamas. The ties were never proven and Qatanani wasn't deported, partly owing to the support he received from Jewish leaders, politicians, and law-enforcement officials like Chris Christie, who called Qatanani "a man of great goodwill." As for the outcry over his nomination of Mohammed, Christie said, "It's just crazy, and I'm tired of dealing with the crazies."

http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2011/09/chris_christie_flaws.html