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    Senior Member CheyenneWoman's Avatar
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    Thank you, Badmonkey. Exactly where my mind went. Well said.

    It seems all the complaints about law enforcement that I'm reading end up being about money.

    "oh, it's going to kill our economy"

    "oh, our town needs them to exist"

    Is that the only thing they consider? I am more than willing to concede that this is probably going to be some fallout, and some businesses will suffer. But, to use an old (probably worn out) cliche -

    You can't make an omelet without breaking a few eggs.

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    The majority of the illegals coming to this country has no desire to be part of America (Only if he/she can make more money to send back home)

    I am a US Citizen originally from Brazil. I took the Oath of Allegiance and
    America always comes first in my heart. My flag is the Old Glory and it flies beatifully on my lawn.

    I have met some Brazilians (most illegals) and I have seen it all. They are very selfish and give a hoot to America and the values it represents.
    It makes me sick. I wish I had never seen how bad it has gotten.

    We are all witnessing a Latinization of America and I say: dont leave your town, take it back.

    Latin America is a failure. Their mentality is backwards and the whole system is corrupt dating back to the 1500's.

    Stay home. Educate your people. Make it better if you can.
    I doubt if the illegals work as hard in the country of origin.

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    Welcome odiesback

    It's great to hear from a LEGAL immigrant who sees what is happening here.

    We're glad to have you on our forum.

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    WELCOME odie!!! Glad to have you with us!
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    Ingrid Reinhold said that the new ordinance smacked of discrimination. She and her husband, Gustav, own three businesses along Scott Street: a music store that features mostly Latin music, a Brazilian cafe that is undergoing renovations, and a bustling Western Union office, where many of the immigrants can stay in contact with relatives back home.
    I truly hope their businesses are the first to hit the skids! Anyone that opens businesses that cannot thrive without depending on a largely illegal alien clientele deserves to fail. They are, IMHO, no better than the businesses that hire illegals.

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    I am a US Citizen originally from Brazil. I took the Oath of Allegiance and
    America always comes first in my heart. My flag is the Old Glory and it flies beatifully on my lawn.
    Welcome Odie,

    Well said.

    I have to say, I'm so amazed each time I read statements like yours from legalized citizens. A real American citizen who went through the process as Odie did, "beams" of America, and really understands what each of us feel every day.
    i applaud you for doing this the right way and sticking to it.
    Odie, you rock. Keep up the fight.
    "Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting the same results is the definition of insanity. " Albert Einstein.

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    Thank you.

    I am glad I found this site and this forum, where I can
    be in touch with fellow Americans who see this issue for what it is:
    AN INVASION.

    Hope I can learn more how to better contribute for this cause.

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    Here, lemme fix this:

    RIVERSIDE, N.J., July 27 — The downtown streets of this working-class town — usually filled with many of the illegal immigrants who have made this place home — were unusually empty the day after the Township Council approved an ordinance banning employers and landlords from hiring or housing illegal immigrants.

    At a heated meeting on Wednesday night that one resident compared to “The Jerry Springer Show,” Riverside’s five-member Council unanimously approved the Illegal Immigration Relief Act, citing overcrowded apartments, jammed parking lots, and a strain on the town’s schools and social services, as reasons for passing the measure.

    “They’re jealous of the illegal Brazilians because they’re hard workers and they live well,” said Celeste Martiniano, a Portuguese-American who owns the Pavilion Barbecue restaurant here.

    Efforts to reach Mayor Charles Hilton and members of the Township Council were unsuccessful.

    The new law is similar to a measure passed in Hazleton, Pa., earlier this month and others being discussed by municipalities around the country. In Congress, the explosive illegal immigration issue has been bogged down over guest worker passes and the level of border enforcement.

    Fines start at $1,000 for violations of the Riverside ordinance, which makes it illegal to hire people who cannot prove they are legally in the United States, or to rent or lease them property. A violator also could lose his or her business permit for five years.

    Before illegal Brazilian immigrants began moving here in the last five years or so, Ms. Martiniano said, the downtown business district, once a bustling shopping area, had been in decline. But the new ordinance, she said, “this is going to kill the town.”

    For the last 25 years, Ms. Martiniano has lived in this Burlington County town of 8,000 residents, where as many as 2,000 to 3,000 illegal immigrants live today. Business has been good since the opening of her restaurant two years ago, largely because of the growing illegal Brazilian population. But on this day, there were no takers for the chicken legs spinning on spits over open flames.

    Ms. Martiniano said that illegal immigrants here were scared in the aftermath of the vote, and that those who have been most vocal against illegal immigrants “are not working and have nothing better to do.”

    Ingrid Reinhold said that the new ordinance smacked of cracking down on illegals. She and her husband, Gustav, own three businesses along Scott Street: a music store that features mostly Latin music, a Brazilian cafe that is undergoing renovations, and a bustling Western Union office, where many of the illegal immigrants can stay in contact with relatives back home. Down the block is another Brazilian restaurant and a Brazilian nail salon. The yellow and green Brazilian flag is pasted to many shop windows.

    “Three years ago this was a dead town,” said Ms. Reinhold, who was born in Ecuador. “Now you see all the stores are open, the people are out. If they do this, it’s going to be like it was before.”

    Standing in front of his recording studio next door, Ed Robins talked about the Wednesday Council meeting. Describing the meeting’s adversarial atmosphere among members in the audience, Mr. Robins said “it reminded me of being on Jerry Springer.”

    Although his business depends very little on the town’s growing illegal immigrant population, Mr. Robins also worried about the ordinance’s impact on the business district and real estate values, which he said have increased with the influx of illegal Brazilians.

    “As a community, we (I deleted "should") have drawn everybody together, including the illegals and approached it intelligently, rather than taking this small town and ripping it apart,” Mr. Robins said.

    Certainly, the Brazilians are not the only immigrant population to call Riverside home. This town on the Delaware River was originally and legally settled by Germans in 1851, followed by legal Poles, Italians and Irish in the early 20th century. Once a thriving industrial town, the immigrants provided much of the workforce for the textile mills of Riverside, once the country’s leading manufacturer of men’s hosiery, and the Philadelphia Watchcase Company, headquartered here until it closed its doors in 1956.

    After the factories closed, the movie theater burned down and many shoppers migrated to nearby malls. Its new distinction, recognized at one point by the Guinness Book of World Records, was having the most bars and liquor licenses in a mile-square town.

    Many of those bars remain, and in some of them there is talk about what needs to be done to slow the tide of immigration.

    At Big Daddy’s Pub on Scott Street, Dave Dalhman Jr., described the town’s growing illegal immigrant population as “a swarm of bees.” Having lived here for the first 40 years of his life, Mr. Dalhman said he was forced to move to a neighboring town two years ago.

    “I’m a minority here now,” said Mr. Dalhman. “I love this town. I was born and raised here, and I’d love to come back here, but that’s not going to happen.”[/b]

    Sorry all, had to change things so I would feel better.
    I don't care what you call me, so long as you call me AMERICAN.

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    Now THATS the truth Ladydrake!

    It is revolting how these pro-illegal groups, and their sympathic journalists, consistantly attempt to lump American citizens (and legal immigrants) of foreign decent..with illegal aliens!

    BTW,

    WELCOME TO ALIPAC ODIE!

    My hat is off to you my fine fellow American.

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    Well, I just get so dadgum sick and tired of how stories are written on this issue. This time I just couldn't take it anymore, so I did something about it.
    I don't care what you call me, so long as you call me AMERICAN.

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